Land of the """"free""""

>in britain 15 year olds can't drive themselves to school

and you can't own guns
Anyways all 18 year olds drink anyways, its not that hard. But it is hard for kids to drive or for you to own guns

Ofcourse 15 year olds can drive themselves to school in the US. You all drive cars designed for disabled people. Rev and go, that simple. I doubt you could operate a manual vehicle. In fact, I doubt you could take off in a manual vehicle never mind drive it.

>nigel is proud of driving outdated cars

Aw shit, ragging on the automatics.

This we can agree on. Americans should be ashamed for driving cars meant for women.

How is it outdated? Manual control of gears grants you better control over the vehicle you are driving. Do you know who drive automatic cars here? People with one leg. Listen, go somewhere cold, where there is frost and snow on the ground and see how far an automatic will get.

Fair point, but it doesn't get cold in the American South and on the off chance there is any snow at all everything is canceled.
My high school got delayed one day because it was -4 Celsius outside

Still doesn't change the fact you're driving cars which is essentially an adult go kart.

>being enslaved to your car

Dude, even Formula One drivers, who drive at insane speeds most of use woud never be able to handle, have gears on their wheel. Seriously, what is the problem? Can americans not remember five fucking speeds? People who ride bicycles can remember that.

The "freedom" the founding fathers spoke of was the freedom to be a by the Holy book highly conservative puritan. Their laws persist. The Amish even still exist.

>euros actually enjoy working while they drive
Truly slave mentality, you work while Americans just let the car do the work

pretty much this. Our country has very strict freedom of religion laws. People like Mormons and Amish wouldn't be able to thrive in Europe (well the German princes actually kicked the Amish out)

Slave mentality? Rich coming from you. You work all year round and don't get any time off. Those medical bills are expensive, eh.

> race car drivers have 5 speeds
> uhhhhhh why not normal drivers also have 5 speeds?

No I don't because I'm not a poorfag and I have health insurance. I actually don't work at all, I'm in school.

>he is a slave to his government and forced to pay for other people's health insurance

I was trying to say, it's not difficult for people who drive at a snail's pace comparatively to utilize five gears.

>I'm in school
kek'd
Just accept the fact you're a lazy people incapable of being as intelligent and cunning as your European superiors. If you cannot operate a manual vehicle as far as I'm concerned you are a toddler. Even children can drive manual vehicles over here in Europe. Lmao, sort yourself out.
It's called socialism. You should try it. It's not so bad. Capitalism combined with Socialism is the future.

But the mormons aren't a America born religion?

Yes. Your government forces you to pay for the health care of other people. That means you are slaves to them

>they can die for israel at 18 but can't have a beer until 36 months later

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Yes they are. Joseph Smith was from Northeastern USA (New York I think)
Goverment tolerated his insane cult until they tried polygamy.

The Final Boss of America The Clutch

It's called taxes, which I'm sure you are well familiar with considering you pay them aswell.

topkek.

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Some shops will actually refuse to serve you energy drinks without ID.

yes, but unlike you I don't have to pay for people's healthcare

your phone was assembled in china you retarded mutt pigdog

Considering the brain isn't fully developed until age 25, the limit should be 25. Same for voting age bee tee dubs.

So, they are not polygamous now? Always see them around here. Very weird people. Walk in pairs, using formal clothes in the tropical heat, giving cards.

I don't actually mind paying for other peoples healthcare, as they do the same in return. Those excluded from that are those that are disadvantaged in our society. You people call yourself patriotic because you wave a flag but a flag is merely a representation of a nation state which is made up of individuals. You're not a patriot, mate, you're a greedy little runt.

>jew enabler calling other people greedy runts

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>under 21
>grown adult

Careful Hans, you might be arrested for saying that

LDS (vast majority of mormons) isn't polygamous, but that decision wasn't reached until well after this.
After the Northeasterners stopped tolerating them they went to Missouri, than later Utah when they stopped tolerating them. They continued polygamy while in Utah until the 1890s.
There are still fundamentalist sects that practice polygamy though

He's not German.

Honestly I don't see the big deal with lots of people paying a little bit so poor people can not die of cancer.

I don't need it myself but I don't mind paying a little for it and I don't see the problem. It's not exactly socialism, it's just a modicum of basic decency.

Same here but you have to be 15

Because I don't care about other people

Not even...other AMERICANS?

The brit is right, you are no patriot.

They have to be sober so they can take some tens of thousand in loans and go kill kids in Venezuela

>Not even...other AMERICANS?
No. Why would someone's citizenship change how much I care about them?

Because we all know patriotism isn't voluntarily trying to make your community a better place, it's being taxed to feed a government administration.

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>you literally have tv license
so does half the planet.

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Look, governments do stupid, wasteful shit, okay? I know it, you know it, everyone with a functioning brain knows it.
I don't think an NHS is one of those things. They can certainly be improved and they aren't perfect by any means, but if the alternative is to just not have one at all, then...come on, man.
That's stupid. I don't know your financial situation, but one day you might need a vital operation, you think it's okay that you die because you can't afford it? What are we, Africa?

having to make money to afford health care provides good motivation

>Look, governments do stupid, wasteful shit, okay?
Correct. Which is why they should only do the things the market cannot. An army, a police force and roads are among these things.

>I don't think an NHS is one of those things.
I think it is.

>They can certainly be improved
Yes. By deregulating it among Dutch lines, for example.

>but if the alternative is to just not have one at all
You know this isn't even the case in America, right? If you can't pay for healthcare yourself, you fall under the Affordable Healthcare Act. The difference between the Netherlands and America is that those who can pay for it have the option not to in America, while they're forced to take a (private) insurance in the Netherlands. I prefer the Dutch system because it leads to less mess in the long run (like the question whether a doctor should treat someone without insurance/money) while keeping government intervention to an acceptable minimum.

>I don't know your financial situation, but one day you might need a vital operation
Yeah. Which is why I have healthcare insurance. Which the law obliges me to have.

>you think it's okay that you die because you can't afford it?
No, but do you realize simply having socialized healthcare isn't a cure-all? Do you know that even in the NHS money still matters because doctors and pharmacists need to be paid? Do you know that NHS simply doesn't cover a lot of treatments because they're too expensive? You still retain the "some people die because treatment is too expensive" scenario.

theguardian.com/business/2015/sep/23/uk-cancer-patients-being-denied-drugs-due-to-inflated-prices-say-experts
Also, recently NHS has stopped covering IVF for women over 35... who are the grand majority of women who want/need IVF in the first place. I don't disagree with the decision (fuck thots) but it goes to show you the system doesn't avoid the fact that money remains a factor. It just mitigates the decision making power to the government.

based russian

>No, but do you realize simply having socialized healthcare isn't a cure-all? Do you know that even in the NHS money still matters because doctors and pharmacists need to be paid? Do you know that NHS simply doesn't cover a lot of treatments because they're too expensive? You still retain the "some people die because treatment is too expensive" scenario.

You make good points. Which is why we should be improving socialized healthcare. Only that, nothing else. No one deserves extra ice cream, but everyone deserves the best health care. That's my view on it anyway.