>be Ireland
>create shoegaze
Based
Be Ireland
Noah Johnson
William Harris
>be UK
>create dnb
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Chase Young
Not Ireland. England.
Grayson Walker
Kevin Shields is Irish
Brayden Miller
Two of the key members are Irish and the band formed in Dublin
Alexander Martin
Bloody Valentine didnt invent shoegaze you melon. It existed in Britain years before that
Aiden Thompson
Really? Name a couple of bands before them, m8
Gavin Nguyen
Catherine Wheel sounds better and Rachel Goswell is hotter than Bilinda Butcher (just slightly)
Levi Sullivan
What type of retard are you huh? Not even the most devoted My Bloody Valentine fan would claim they invented shoegaze and most say Cocteau Twins
Tyler Hernandez
They're Scottish, not Engl*sh.
Mason Anderson
Shit's gay
Ryan Richardson
It's fair to say mbv made the first proper shoegaze album, even if it drew heavily from Cocteau Twin's experimental works
Eli Fisher
Ooooooh I get it, none of your are actually interested in the music because you want to flag-post because this is Jow Forums and you're all obsessed with Britain
ye m8, England is REALLY lacking in musical achievements ffs
Jaxon Gomez
A Primary Industry & Pale Saints, but it's fair to say My Bloody Valentine are the most remembered.
Cocteau Twins aren't really shoegaze either btw to whoever said they were, they're dream pop.
Samuel Scott
Yeah I was thinking that, not really shoegaze at all
Chase Bailey
Based
Gavin Jenkins
same thing
Blake Moore
Dream pop = lethargic shoegaze with simple song structures
If you really think the two genres are separable you're fucking retarded
Jonathan Edwards
Spaceman 3. Couple of others, I forgot their names. Fucking Jesus and the Mary Chain, in the end of the 80s in Britain that was the whole thing, bunch of kids wanting to be J&MC. MBV didn't went in the studio with the idea to create the new genre, they were basically just a really weird twee pop band after all, it's just the album gain mass in the mid 90s, but it wasn't that successful in the first place, a lot of praise came later, there was plenty other bands, working that sound who were much more popular, the recipe was fucking easy, bareboned.
Jace Myers
Don't you get your ass beaten in that frozen shithole for less than playing that homoerotic crap?
Elijah Scott
>here's why it's separable but don't say it's separable
Odd yet welcomed argument, I'll be honest.
Ryan Hernandez
Why are you so frustrated, hermano? Got cucked again?
Brayden Rogers
I don't know if this is right but I think of shoegaze as having that sort of droning sound whereas I don't necessarily associate that with dream pop. Genre labels these days are weird though.
Eli Hill
If you listen to something like Spacemen 3's extended version of Rollercoaster, it adds almost 10 whole minutes of guitar feedback and the like, easy to hear how it would be so influential to musicians listening to it at the time.
Jonathan Lee
its literally the opposite, shoegaze is an umbrella term of which dream pop is an specific connotation. you can have upbeat dynamic shoegaze like Ride on Seagull or fucking ear screeching noise shoegaze like The Gosslings on Grandeur of Hair or even blackgaze or dronegaze, its about the distortion and wall of sound techniques, dream pop is one specific variation of this wall of sound/distortion+echo+chorus formula defined by the mellowness and the simplicity of it