Admit it, America won

>Cmon man you're joking if you think Tupolev can compare to Lockheed Martin
EZ

The problem is you projecting everything on the flag of a poster
The martsharter's country is powerful, but how does that affect his life? He has a decent country, but so do people in weaker countries of Europe and even you, assuming you're a native Arab and not some Indian slave worker

If we had 340 million inhabitants and was as big of a country we would also be able to do that. I'm am neither impressed or intimidated by the mutts

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>The power of America represents a one world government, with America as the police force and all the other nations basically dependent on America

And?

>So America's goal is to soften Islam to be a personal religion like what happened to Christianity,

You should be thankful they don't simply eradicate you like they should in my eyes.

>The elites in America are working to try and elevate man to the level of God

Nothing wrong with that besides we may simply not be good enough as a species.

>How the fuck can we compete?
by shooting them down with the help of your wit and training, something camelfuckers completely lack
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoltán_Dani

>America won
won what?
9 tenths of their entire arsenal be it air, land or sea will be sold off at colossal discounts once the Dollar inflates

>the only way to stop america is a 1v1 fist fight

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wars are won with air power

Luckily we invented nukes so even the BIGGEST GREEDIEST SOCIOPATHIC jews / leader knows they will perish in post nuclear winter and all their stolen riches, resources and land will be worthless so there is 0 reason to wage typical wars these days.

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true, the day Al-Qaeda flew planes into the towers victory was assured

>wars are won with air power
Wars are won with economy, air power is one of the visible signs of its strength.

Russia makes far better equipment at a fifth of the price.

But their economy is dead so they can't mass produce.

but your economy is in the shitter yet you have immense air power

it's all old shit from the 90s

Doesn't matter, zergrushing has proven to be effective in WW2

Yeah, because most of it is modified soviet stuff.
> zergrushing has proven to be effective in WW2
Stop studying history by memes

but it did work. don't tell me you won by 'advanced soviet technology' lmao

The t34 was the most advanced tank at the time, Soviet airforce was very modern and competitive with Germany, advanced rocket launcher trucks were common, and the Soviets were designing really cool heavy tanks and a few were in use like the IS-2.

how much does kremlin pay you?

No it didn't, because it didn't happen.
>on't tell me you won by 'advanced soviet technology'
Never even thought about it.
youtu.be/JOKAIDpOY80

America was soft on Afghanistan, if they wanted to they could just bomb everything and the Afghans wouldn't be able to fight back.
It concerns the future of the world
If most Croatians think like you then why doesn't Croatia just become a state of America? Makes no sense to be separate when joining the union would be better for you and every Croatian.
Stop being asshurt, no Muslim gives a shit about Hungary
America has emergency protocols for disarming nuclear capable countries. They tried to do this when Pakistan was developing nukes but failed, they can't do it out in the open right now. But if the US goes to war with Pakistan then you can bet your ass that SEALs will swoop in to steal the nukes.

The Red Army in the early war was absolute dogshit, and the T-34 and Katyusha weren't advanced, they were simple (yet effective) designs
Red Army caught up in quality towards the end of the war tho

T-34 was a very powerfuly tank at the start of barbossa, but was generally outclassed near the end of WW2, but it still provided a level of firepower and protection that scaled very well in numbers, something the germans never did

IL-2s were pretty terrifying, although it also helped the brits bit a huge chunk out of the german airforce.

Katyushas were no joke either once they came into full use with american trucks.

Although, it could be said the war was long lost the further hitler strayed from a situation where he could have sued for peace, even if it was humiliating.

nothing. The first year of the invasion of Russia was completely different by the time of the winter stalemate. The Soviets were not prepared for war when Hitler attacked but by the time they were near Moscow and the winter stalemate kicked in, all industry had been moved east of the Urals. It was during this winter stalemate that the Russians went from having a poor infantry-based military that saw encirclements by the millions a few months back that was now a tank-based force with lots of advanced support equipment equal to that of the Germans.

i wouldn't mind being bombed by any of them, like they look cool and the american taxpayer paid more for them i'll earn in 100 of my lifetimes so it's more than fair

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>but was generally outclassed near the end of WW2,
That's where T-34/85 and T-44 come up

The t34 regularly won against pz4s, it was one of the first tanks to introduce slanted and round armor

thats a sprout.

Polska should become an American state

optics were dogshit, crew layout was dogshit, no commanders cupola, cramped as shit, forward mg gunner couldn't see shit
Early T-34 were death traps

> no country in the world can make planes like these
> B52
haha oh wow
sure US military is awesome but not because of fucking bomb buses

Doesn't mean much when we can't bomb Russia because of their nukes

>steal the nukes
This isn't Call Of Duty you idiot.

You can't just come in with guns and steal some top secret shit hidden 1-2km underground with top-level security and blind folded scientists.

>Give most of the nations income to the military
>Don't wage war
Wow, great investment there.

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What really puts things into perspective is to realise that US has like 17 of these where as Russia has 1 which was almost sank by a dock.

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ELMAO

>can take on multiple countries and easily win

USSR = walks out of Afghanistan undefeated, Najibullah government survives three more years
USA = forced to ask parley with Taliban
Lybia = "democratic intervention" created bloody chaos, it's literally Mad Max-tier
Syria = Assad, the country and the torch of civilization survives, ISIS defeated

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US is actually pretty great at building things that transport other things to desert countries

We're more of an ice kind of place
by the way, we're leading 20 to 1

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Not very good armour or gun pressure, but the thing is that it was a very good tank even if you only had a slight numbers advantages (something like 3:1 might be enough)

we're supposed to have 25 by 2020

Dirty bomb/nuke Wall Street or Silicon Valley and their economy (and the whole worlds) goes to shitter.
Sure those aren't their actual lifelines of their whole economy but who would've guessed what shitshow collapse of Lehman Brothers would cause in 2008.

>So America's goal is to soften Islam to be a personal religion like what happened to Christianity
there's literally nothing wrong with that as long as we don't reach america's level of degeneracy.

Snow niggers

Well you screw goats, diddle underage kids and are known for hash so you arent too far off to begin with.

>Well you screw goats, diddle underage kids and are known for hash so you arent too far off to begin with
We may have an influx of paki/indian population but we try our best to keep them in line

The fact that they've been waging war half way around the globe for god knows how many decades shows their might. It is all about logistics. That's something no other country can muster

more like ice KANGS

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We're going to sell them some ice breakers as a counter deal for the new fighter jets

logistics is about being able to pick battlefields

it goes a long way towars being able to invade countries that are in no position to resist. it has little to do with 'might' as in being able to sustain a fight that you didn't pick

>This fucking thread and all the replies

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> useless icebreakers for a country that's not well placed to control the north
> in exchange for useless planes or a country whose airfields require about 5 cluster bombs to be disabled
art of the deal

Sadly, we just rely on Canadians for ice breakers.

You're right, maybe I should call the president and tell them about this revelation

>USSR = walks out of Afghanistan undefeated, Najibullah government survives three more years
Yeah and we walked out of Vietnam undefeated by your logic.
>ISIS defeated
No thanks to Asad and RF. You guys were busy fighting other rebels and bombing hospitals while the west, Kurds and Arab militias were actually fighting ISIS.

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>useless icebreakers for a country that's not well placed to control the north
Did you forget they are used in the great lakes or that we have cities on the north coast of alaska?

>nothing wrong with changing Islam
Islam is supposed to be the truth from God, if you change Islam then it's not the truth anymore, it's not Islam.

>Yeah and we walked out of Vietnam undefeated by your logic.

You didn't read the filename, did you?

>No thanks to Asad and RF. You guys were busy fighting other rebels and bombing hospitals while the west, Kurds and Arab militias were actually fighting ISIS.

You know what's really wrong about lies? The fact that, eventually, a liar starts to believe his own lies.

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>implying islam hasn't been changed and played with over the millennia to fit the narrative of the ruling caliphates and creating new hadiths to justify their actions.

It hasn't, hadiths have a chain of transmission and grading system. Islam is from the Quran and Sunnah, and this is why Salafis are correct

Sure. There's no way ANY of those "trusted" sources would have lied about hadiths for the last 1000 years, even if they were threatened by their overlords.
riiiiiight

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People memorized the hadiths you know, and not every person who memorized them lived under the same government, and not all of them were the same ethnicity

Sharting in marts is an expression of freedom our military allows us to express. Respect veterans, support our troops, and god bless america

>This level of cope
Okay, you do you.

Saigon fell in 1975 and we left in 1972. So I fail to see how it's different. All we did was evacuat some of the SV when Saigon fell.

>You know what's really wrong about lies? The fact that, eventually, a liar starts to believe his own lies.
Oh I forgot how Asad and Russia captured all of ISIS territory especially the capital of Raqqa. The only lies are that Russia and Asad have actually fought ISIS more than a few minor battles.

The le superior german tech meme needs to end. Germs regularly picked up Soviet weaponry. Germans tanks were outmatched by the t-34 (aka the war winner.) And germany even lacked the tech capacity (partially due to versailles) to make advanced equipment until they took the sudetenland off dubious irredentist claims.
If russia wasn't heavily defending its eastern border in anticipation of a jap attack, which germany was hoping to occur, germany would have been btfo fast. The second Zhukov and his forces made it west the war was over.

>good hardware = unstoppable force
Muricans showed up with the same mindset in Afghanistan and Vietnam and lost
>It's not like posting shart in mart will cause an F22 to explode.
Hurricanes do though :^)

Winning a guerrilla war against the people of a country is impossible unless you want to commit genocide.

Tell that to the DoD officials, not me. They're the ones who dragged G.Is into ridiculous wars expecting all the bombings would win them a war easily.

>AA
>shooting down a supersonic 5th-gen jet armed with Hellfire missiles
At least post an Igla or S400 or even a fucking RPG to be just a bit realistic

We were winning Vietnam before domestic unrest forced the US to pull out. We were basically genociding the Vietnamese though

they kept kiling isis while it took you years to actually do something because you needed another reason to sell to your brainwashed people that you have to stay in syria

Why did the Tet offensive happen if Westmoreland was claiming the Viet Cong couldn't afford to attack US forces?

It's more like because we made up ~1% of the forces that actually took Raqqa, it was mostly rebels. Same goes for our control of the Iraqi military in the siege of Mosul.
It was a surprise attack

>outmatched
Outproduced. Also, without Americans supplying a lot of the necessary logistics and also food, Soviets would be fucked as well.
>Aghanistan
>Vietnam
>lost
They won the wars. They couldn't maintain the occupation.

Because he's retarded? How much does it cost a bunch of communist farmers fed weapons by china to attack innocent american troops who dindu nuffin? Also wtf france i never understand when french flags jump in on vietnam criticisms.

>It was a surprise attack
Not only it was a surprise attack, it completely debunked the US pronostics on the NVA military situation and showed the US overestimated their grip on South Vietnam. A big demonstration of DoD delusion.
>They won the wars.
No they didn't.
>Because he's retarded?
Thank you for being honest at least.
>Also wtf france i never understand when french flags jump in on vietnam criticisms.
I have nothing to do with France's war, I'm entitled to criticize the Vietnam situation as much as everyone else.

oh please, with all your military might and airstrikes it took you so long to take raqqa?
do you know what us coalition forces did to raqqa?
constant bombing that left it 80% uninhabitable and youre giving me that excuse?

It might not be related to the wars. We were there because muuuuuh truman doctrine, muh gommies, etc but still you abandoned your territory in shame but insult america for fighting on? The only country that cannot insult the vietnam shitshow is france

1% of the ground forces, not including aircraft.

>No they didn't
Americans literally stormed through Afghanistan right up to Kabul.

noone fights with their proxy armies on the ground. maybe sometimes special forces

Once again I am not France (not even French lmao I just live here), I did not fight in Vietnam, neither did my family. I can criticize your action in Vietnam all I want.
>insult america for fighting on
I don't insult America, I just mock DoD officials for being complete retards who made questionable decisions that led to many deaths, including on the US side.
>Americans literally stormed through Afghanistan right up to Kabul.
Doesn't matter. It's the end result that matters. Right now the Taliban are recovering their lost ground, and Trump talks about withdrawal.

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Strategic bombers are great but have a specific doctrine. Most countries don't need them.

B-21 looks cool as shit though. Wish it had a better name. 'Raider' is fine, but some of the other ones considered were "Ghost" and "Wraith". Way better.

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>I am not France (not even French lmao I just live here)
So basically the general French population

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And the left wants to bring more low IQ monkey beaners like you into the country?