In your opinion, and in your country, who has it more hard: Men or Women?

Fun fact. In the US, 46% of victims of sexual abuse are men when you include the category "forced to insert penis into another person" which by definition is not rape by UK law. Male victims of sexual abuse are heavily discriminated against and shamed while alleged female "victims" are believed regardless of evidence

Based.
That's just sad.

Based

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>Being a sexist pig in 2019
Yikes!

In the US, Netherlands, Canada, New Zealand, Belgium, Spain, Sweden and others, females have a right to bodily integrity but males do not. For this reason female circumcision is illegal, but male circumcision is not only legal, but completely unregulated in the US, allowing it to be performed on infants who are too young for anesthesia by rabbis who engage in the old practice of sucking a baby's bleeding dick after circumcision. This has led to the transmission of HIV/aids in many cases in New York, and the rabbis were not prosecuted. (This is not a joke)

In Ireland, a male teenager may be prosecuted for underage sex, while females are exempt.

In the US:
>There are no national standards for defining and reporting male-on-male, female-on-female or female-on-male offenses, so such crimes are generally not included in rape statistics unless these statistics are compiled using information from states which count them as rape.

>The National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey conducted by the US National Center for Injury Prevention and Control of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that women make up 40% of all rapists and men are 50% of all victims outside of prison.[13]

>Research by David B. Mustard, University of Georgia concluded that women receive lighter sentences and a higher chance of acquittal, simply for being women. Average sentence for same crime under similar circumstances (armed robbery):[14]

>Male: 51.52 months
>Female: 18.51 months

International Journal of Criminal Justice Sciences, Vol 5 Issue 1, January – June 2010 published a study on male victims of intimate partner violence in the United States in which it quoted a study by George and Yarwood who found that police have threatened 47% of male victims of intimate partner violence with arrest, ignored 35% of male victims and 21% were actually arrested instead of the female perpetrators.[18]

Study titled “Disabusing the Definition of Domestic Abuse: How Women Batter Men and the Role of the Feminist State” by Linda Kelly, Professor of Law at Indiana University School of Law, found that when abused men call the police to report domestic violence committed against them by their female partner, they are three times more likely to be arrested than their spouse that is abusing them.[19]

A University of Florida study found women are more likely to “stalk, attack and abuse” their partners than men.[33]

A 2007 Center for Disease Control study found that almost a quarter (24%) of relationships had violence, about half (49.7%) was reciprocal. In non-reciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70 percent of the cases.[34]

Research by the US based National Parents Organization found that 64% of men who made distress calls to tax dollars funded domestic violence shelters were told that the shelter was only helping women. Most reported to have been laughed at and hung up on, or told that women don’t commit domestic violence therefore it must have been the caller’s fault.[20]

According to the research by Mankind Initiative, in the UK there are only 13 organizations that offer refuge or safe house provision for male victims of domestic violence with a total of 78 beds, of which 33 beds are dedicated to male victims only (the rest being for victims of either gender), and of these 33 dedicated beds, 18 are for gay males only. In comparison, in the UK there are over 260 organizations with around 4,000 beds dedicated to female victims of domestic violence.[21]

According to the US census on Custodial Mothers and Fathers, women receive custody of the children in about 84% of custody cases.[23]

Research on Child Maltreatment by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Administration for Children and Families found that 81.2% of children who were maltreated, were maltreated by a parent (the remaining 18.8% were maltreated by people in nonparental relationship with them, such as daycare stuff, foster parents, neighbors, legal guardians, relatives, etc.). Of children maltreated by a parent, 38.3% were maltreated by a mother, 6.0% by a mother and other person, 18.1% by a father, 0.9 by a father and other person, and 17.9% by both a mother and a father.[70]

A first-of-a-kind study of NCAA participation and scholarship data conducted by the College Sports Council (CSC) found that female students are accorded far more opportunities than male students to compete and earn scholarships. Girls were awarded scholarships almost twice as often as boys – for every 200 boys, 320 girls got scholarship.[26][27]

Pursuant to the 1964 Civil Rights legislation, the US Department of Justice will not investigate cases of bullying if the victim is a white male.[28]

On some airlines, such as Air New Zealand, men are banned from sitting next to kids on airplanes, simply because they are men and societal anti-male bias dictates that every man is a presumed rapist. British Airways have recently changed this discriminatory policy.[54]

According to the US Bureau of Labor Statistics, men account for 92% of all fatal work injuries.[30]

For every 100 females ages 15 to 19 that commit suicide, 549 males in the same range commit suicide. For every 100 females ages 20 to 24 that commit suicide 624 males of the same age commit suicide.[48]

One confusing factor in all this could be the finding that women attempt suicide more often than men. This has mostly to do with the fact that women often attempt suicide not because they mean to kill themselves, but to draw attention to themselves. Whereas most men who attempt suicide do it because nobody pays attention to their problems.

There are many mechanisms, including governmental institutions and non governmental organizations dedicated exclusively to help women to cope with stressful situations. But hardly any or none at all dedicated to men. With few outlets for men to cope, and with pressure on them being higher than on women, things can build up and go past the breaking point quickly. Add to it the societal pressure on men to cope or be called a girl, a sissy or a deadbeat and it’s easy to see why men actually go through with suicides, as opposed to using them as a call for help.

In many countries, affirmative action in favor of women is allowed while affirmative action in favor of men is illegal.[35]

In Canada, an employer in a male dominated field is allowed to discriminate against men and hire women preferentially, whereas an employer in a female dominated field isn’t allowed to hire men preferentially. While affirmative action pretends to be a noble cause, what it does is give women a net advantage in the workplace as a whole and discriminates against men in the workplace as a whole.

In the Netherlands, women have the right to give up an unwanted child for adoption immediately after birth, thereby stripping themselves of all financial responsibility for the child. Men do not have this right.[36][38]

In the US, a woman can name any man she chooses as the father. The man gets a letter in the mail, if he does not prove he isn’t the biological father within 30 days (problems with postal service are not an excuse) he is now the father, cannot contest it and must pay.[49]

As per Hermesmann v. Seyer, a woman is entitled to sue the father of her child for child support even if conception occurred as a result of a criminal act, like statutory rape, committed by the woman.[55]

Obamacare contains 148 special provisions and programs for women but none for men, even though health and life expectancy outlooks for men are much grimmer than for women. The US federal healthcare spending is already 65% on women.[56]

Men die on average 7 years earlier than women. Before the age of 65 men are three times as likely to suffer heart disease and twice as likely to die from lung cancer than women.

An entire branch of the UN is dedicated to women issues, but nothing for men.[56]

There are branches of federal governments dedicated to women’s health issues, but none for men.[57][59]

Obviously mothers are majority abuser since they are majority custodian and spends more time with children.

Among women’s rights that men don’t have granted by legal precedent are:

The right to abortion
The right to abandon her child without her partner’s consent.
The right to place her child up for adoption without or against the father’s consent
The right to lower jail sentences for the same crime, more likely to receive probation than incarceration and also shorter periods of incarceration.
The right “not to be offended” in the workplace.
The right to have a man evicted from his home because she says she’s “afraid” of him.
The right to make false allegations of rape, domestic violence or child abuse with relative impunity.
The right to keep custody of children after divorce unless proven to be an unfit parent.
The right to have a man arrested on only her word, with no supporting evidence, upon an allegation of rape.
The right to women-only clubs, gyms or accommodations.
The right to use depression, PMS, or “being controlled by a man” as a legal defense and having way more of a chance of it.
The right to a standard of “self defense” that does not include an immediate threat.

Responsibilities that men have which women do not by law:

Selective service (The Draft).
A requirement to list themselves on a putative father listing to have even the thinnest rights to their children.
A requirement to support their wives (husbands can be charged with abandonment, wives cannot.)

Sure but that still doesn't justify sexism against men in child custody cases

Responsibilities that men have which women do not by legal precedent:

The responsibility to financially support their children (custodial mothers are not slapped with an “earn this much or go to jail” order. Plus mothers are rarely ordered to support their children who are in the custody of the father.)
The responsibility to accept being forced into parenthood against their will.
The responsibility to get over their past as men cannot use prior abuse as a legal defense, but women can.

Furthermore:

Men do not have the right to be recognized as victims of rape when forced into non consensual intercourse, nor do they have the right to have those who have perpetuated these acts against them to be charged as rapists.
Men do not have the right to be recognized as victims of domestic violence and afforded the protections that women are. Men do not have the right to not be arrested for reporting being victim of domestic violence (as per mandatory arrest and primary aggressor laws).
Men receive on average a 63% percent harsher sentence for identical convictions as a woman, an even larger gap than the racial discrimination in court.
Men do not have the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, especially in crimes of sexual nature, in which they must often prove their innocence. This right has been effectively dismantled in the recent “Dear College” letter. This mandate is not applied generally to women.
When accused of sexual crimes on a college campus, men do not have the right to be defended by an attorney. Men do not have the right to have their accusation tried and investigated by law enforcement professionals and scents vs given by judges.
US women use 20% more healthcare dollars over a lifetime but pay the same premiums.
US women use 50% more social security and survivor’s benefits but pay significantly less tax. In some countries women even get to draw benefits earlier.

>post facts that prove societal misandry
>thread dies
Gamers rise up ffs

Dude women are perfect beings that getting treated like shit by subhuman men

Hey can you tell /v/ about this thread I want to debate a feminist retard

Gamers?

Hmmm... it's almost like nobody cares about men being discriminated against

It's like the 0,001% of the cases don't draw as many attention as structural discrimination and oppression.

Men are structurally discriminated against while women are given benefits of mens oppression.

Oke

Both have it hard I'd say men but then again I haven't transitioned and tried life as a woman so I'll get the full picture post-op

globally women
1st world men

OK incel

For now

Men always have it harder in 3rd world countries...

Probably a troll but you can never tell with commie sPAIN

>someone doesn't agree with me
>must be a troll
American education everyone

well you're not responding to any of the facts in this thread that prove that men are discriminated against, instead just baselessly claiming women are discriminated against, let me guess, based on the "wage gap"? Fact is when you adjust for hours worked, years of experience, and education, women earn 93 cents for a dollar man makes, and that doesn't adjust for affirmative action or any psychological variables. Meanwhile

>Fact is when you adjust for hours worked, years of experience, and education, women earn 93 cents for a dollar man makes
So you are saying there is a wage gap?

Yes but it's not because of sexism. All of the institutional sexism is against men.

>being retarded and still alive
yikes!

>name calling
Low level discussion, get out of 4channel