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Excellent thank you for your recommendations!

What does this mean?

molymeme and peterson are a bunch of scammers that know where the wind blows. so they "adjust" their ideology just to sell their shit

So you've read their works?

half of those have nothing to do with business tho

Why read regurgitated crap when you can read the actual writers who they stole from?
You bought self help books for people too "intellectual" for self help books

You can argue that they do, but otherwise, thanks for the observation.

And these people would be?

>Not mastering the Book of Changes
>Not going to make it

Start with the Greeks

Wait what's this?

I read these in University - they're memes.

>they're memes
>I read these in University
I'm pretty sure you're still trying to finish high school.

For someone who's chastizing people for not reading books you sure didn't read Peterson's book
It's not gospel (despite the name) but it holds simple truths that the modern world has stubbornly tried to pretend that aren't.

I always wonder how someone can say "hurr durr Peterson is a cuck regurgitating garbage and brainwashing kids with a different kind of slave mentality" when the very first chapter of the book is all about DOMINANCE HIERARCHIES and why they're NATURAL AND INESCAPABLE and how you can use that to better your own stead.
>b-but he thinks white nationalism is stupid and excessive individualism will ruin nations
Don't read it as your only book and think for yourself ffs and you can get the good without the bad, gee how's that hard?

I'm working on my 3rd degree now though.

biz bible

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Thanks brother

art of seduction was kind of corny and useless imo

win friends and influence was mostly common sense, can summarize as:
-Give people compliments and appreciation
-Avoid criticizing people at all costs
-If you want someone to do something, be sure mostly describe how it helps them

Glad I didn't buy Greene's other books then.

Figured the Carnegie one was a meme but I have to read it

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>newfags haven't posted it yet

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>14. 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos
>>Peterson, Jordan B.

Stopped reading. Sorry user but that book is bullshit christian based theory with a sprinkle of lobster

Thanks I have this already but not too interested in the technical stuff - yet

Even if it's a meme I have to read it so I have an informed opinion.

You could of saved the money and listened to the latest jre with him. Same shit, different chimp.

Atlas Shrugged got dry as fuck in some parts. The story is just a vehicle for her to propagate her philosophy of objectivism. Despite that, I actually enjoyed the story for what it was.

JRE?

Java Runtime Environment
God damn it the summerfags are here
shouldn't you be in bed?

>Stefan Molymeme
doesn't understand the difference between sound and valid but writes a logic book

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Kek, just google it user. It's the first hit.

This is a terrible list for Jow Forums
Marcus Aurelius? Dune? Fuck what is this, intellectual daycare for dilettante 19 year olds?
Here's some stuff that's PRACTICAL but still satisfies your douchebag superiority complex
>Aristotle - On Rhetoric - learn how to make pitches and speaches and persuade
>Quintilian - Institutio Oratoria - even more, but this one tells you how to STUDY rhetoric
>Dio Chrysostom - Orations - see it in action, Maybe read some Isocrates and Demosthenes too
>Ibn Khaldun - Muqaddimah - first appearance of the Laffer curve, describes reasons why cities have more economic productivity, and also describes the cyclidity of social integration
>The Prince - Machiavelli - because you're a fedora wearing plastic katana carrying wanker
>On War - Von Clausewitz - I haven't read it, but I've read many a Jow Forums lit/ strategy documents, the kind you'd expect in HBR reference the theories presented herein
>The Book of the Five Rings - Miyamoto Musashi - Musashi would seem to be an unbathed autismo who gave his life to the way of the sword like an autismo does to trainspotting. But there is one amazing piece of advice you must read, I think in the fifth ring, where he tells you not to look for gesture or 'tells' from you opponent. None of that body language shit.
>Instead he tells you to combine all the information and read the soul of your opponent so you know where they will WANT to move before they even twitch. He's saying understand their character, their rhythm rather than look for signs.
>Don Quixote - Cervantes - so you realize why thots are just in your imagination

Now here's books you should read by people who have made more money than you could ever dream of:
>Principles - Ray Dalio
>Zero to One - Peter Theil
>anything by Charlie Munger

are you a supervillain?

CONFESSIONS OF AN ECONOMIC HITMAN BY JOHN PERKINS

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Siddhartha - Hesse
7 Habits of Highly Effective People - Covey
The Bible
The Tao Te Ching

Interesting take - I'm still starting out mate.

>Judging a figurative book by it's cover

Munger doesn't have much, his Almanac is financially restrictive, I imagine for a reason

Actually I like these selections - thank you.

Which bible version is best?

RSV

Siege by James Mason. A fantastic overview of our economic system, and strategies to come out on top.

Evola doesn't get enough love.

the reading list of a severely diseased and western spirit

Thank you. The internet and mostly Jow Forums has really quickly changed their opinion on Peterson because of how he dealt with the jq. Doesn't invalidate everything he thinks.

I'll also say that on that infographic, Thomas Sowell's "Basic Economics" is not technical at all and a pretty easy read. You probably won't get as much out of it for this reason but it still might be worth the time if this stuff interests you. "The Intelligent Investor" is also not very technical for the most part.

Imagine being THIS butthurt about the backbone of Western society.

Diseased? Why?

Howd he deal with it?

Thanks will add to the list!

Super!? I wish, those cats get to wear costumes and have secret lairs. No I'm just the regular kind.

Why wouldn't you read actual business books though? Books about practical skills? All the books you listed, not only are many of them baby's first philosophy and most of them have NOTHING TO DO WITH MAXIMIZING PROFIT from the exchange of money for goods and services or paying for the right to future dividends or equity.
Philosophically where's the Wittgenstein (or even a explanation, a 'reader' on him), Popper, Bateson, Russell, Baudrillard, Austin, Camus?
But again, let me emphasize, that won't help you much in business, all it will do it give you a firmer grasp of ideas-and-language and an understanding of our faculties and how information and meaning is formed, yes I am aware Carl Ichan said that Empiricist philosophy was a good training ground for him, but I haven't actually read his thesis nor know who he studied.
Instead you should read textbooks, biographies of businessmen (NOT Steve Jobs) - >Carlos Ghosn
>P.T. Barnum
>William Levitt
>Kirk Kerkorian
>Thomas Watson Snr.
look at the companies that have the biggest growth and find profiles of their CEOs and understand their strategies.

That's the point of his approach, it's about minimizing risk so the few trades you make are alpha. Then you look at someone like George Soros who is a speculator, a totally unrelated approach and then pick your own.

I can tell you didn't read the list from this short post.

you need to swap the art of seduction with the 32 strategies of war, greenes best imo. or mastery if you'd prefer. infact anything other than seduction, which is his worst and least applicable

all taleb books are very good.

get rid of the meme shit like dune, atlas shrugged, how to win friends, jordan peterson, smith, molymeme. if you want to get political start with the best and most fundamental

the soverign individual is a great pic. i would read kaczynski's manifesto if you want a political insight into the future.

your money or you life is the best book on money.

I don't know enough about where to start - these are not just all for business related purposes. I appreciate the suggestions though I have added most to my list.

Well, what are you trying to learn? Stop adding books to your list and build a strategy. Pinpoint a goal, a thing you want to learn, and be specific.
Do you want to start a business, get ahead in an industry, or become an investor (a speculator or a value investor - commodities, equities, forex, crypto? etc. etc.)
instead of casting a wide net and hoping for some wisdom to magically plop in, define what you want to know - figure out why you're asking for advice on a Jow Forums board, not a /lit/ not anywhere else.
What's your end game?

Damn that sucks RE: Greene.

I have to read all the meme shit to understand it and move from there - I am focused on building knowledge.

Good point - I generally just want knowledge but of course what I really want likely is money - need to be more clear with myself - but I do want a broad knowledge sharpened with something specific. I guess I want these building blocks first and then move on to investing/speculating from there.

Daytrading etc. are not for me but long-term investing or swing trading is, would like to start a capital firm eventually.

You're too vague - pick something. Michael. E. Porter, Buffett, Munger, and Steve Jobs all say that it's about what you don't do as much as you do: you have a finite amount of resources as a human being so set specific clear goals to ensure maximal ROI.

>Daytrading etc. are not for me but long-term investing or swing trading is, would like to start a capital firm eventually.
Okay. Then go read the Peter Theil book, in fact I'll help you here's a summary of it:
sivers.org/book/ZeroToOne
and here are the original notes of the author that became the book
openculture.com/2014/10/peter-thiels-stanford-course-on-startups-read-the-lectures-notes-free-online.html
Read Ray Dalio's Principles, especially the last third on his 'management principles' a lot of the problem solving strategies and team management stuff you will eventually encounter when you build a firm.

What is your current investing knowledge like?
If you're a total novice, go find a book called 'Buffettology' it will explain to you a very simple way how Berkshire Hathaway pick the companies they invest in, it's dead simple. Also watch this
youtube.com/watch?v=ARrNYyJEnFI
If, however, you're more advanced then move onto the Berkshire Hathaway Letters.
In fact at the more intermediate level I can't think of any books off-hand to advice you on.
THIS IS THE LIST __FOR YOU___. Go to the library and find as many books on PE and Venture Capital as you can, preferably actually written by people in the industry.
Wouldn't hurt to read a few books by silicon valley entrepreneurs, I can't think of any off hand, read the early days of Facebook and other companies - just to understand the psychology, the mindset, and yes - the ways they retroactively distort reality so when you're investing in startups you know how they think.
Read profiles of Elizabeth Holmes, ask yourself
>What did the investors do wrong? ("everything" is not an answer)

I have read every book on that list. Nothing is as memorable or more enjoyable than a library copy of snow crash I stole in the 10th grade... Greatest book ever.

Thank you...I really appreciate this. Believe it or not I have added and plan to read every book you listed or references to authors you mentioned here - I know the plan should be to first focus, and I will, but there's something to be said of broad general knowledge and that's what I want to accumulate first.

If you have further recommendations I'd love to hear, as it sounds like you're either highly intelligent or experienced or both.

haha is it that good mate?

Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.

>If you have further recommendations I'd love to hear, as it sounds like you're either highly intelligent or experienced or both.
You're a smoothtalker, I like that. You'll go far. Flattery will get you anywhere.

I advise against a broad reading because I myself was seduced by the siren song of a broad base of knowledge, yes, there are two advantages
>1, it makes conversation so much easier, even if you're a bit shy, simply being able to converse on a wide range of topics from an informed position will improve your social life x10
>2, in investing you'll have a starting point for many different types of companies, you'll be able to think of analogies, and pretty quickly work out if it's a solid company or not
The problem is broad range of reading, even consolidating that information doesn't do anything for you without the agency to make use of it - now by 'agency' I mean potency, the ability and the means to act upon it. For example, me understanding an awful lot about 19th century steam engines (I'm not, this is just a example) won't be of a lot of use unless I become board of trustees on a museum of Victorian machinery, or if I invest in a company that has a collection of steam based machinery, maybe a railroad that while now electrified the gauges and the way the tracks are now owes itself to steam engines. That's pretty useless.
Far better to target specific regions of reading and learning. And not just reading, but doing
>Constructivism - Learning is assimilation of new stimuli and concepts to old
>Constructionism - Learning is doing
>Enactivism - Learning is doing is being
The best way to learn is to interact, to do, to modify, to conduct experiments.
>if you want to understand something, try to change it - Kurt Lewin

However if you still don't heed my warning and remain an epistemological omnivore in my next post I'll recommend you some guidelines

Kek I actually was gonna read this today

Yeah I get what you're saying. The way I see it I'm getting my undergrad in general knowledge but will heed your advice eventually and pursue that PhD in the realm of my choosing once I have a better idea of a path to take.

Looking forward to some other recommendations though!

Now, what if you don't head my warning, well you're going to want a way of consolidating all this knowledge into a way that is actually useful.

You might be familiar with Scott Adams he has a interesting idea he calls 'talent stacking' he says that you should strategically acquire skills that augment or leverage your other mediocre skills. For example, if I'm a musician, I might learn how to be an illustrator, firstly because as Led Zeppelin pointed out the ideas of visual composition apply to musical composition (light & shade) but more importantly you can design your own flyers posters and album art, create marketing materials for your facebook page, you can control the 'image' of your band. That's good talent stacking. However, if I'm a musician and I learn a skill like, day trading - not a good mix - unless I somehow find a confluence between the ratios in the Gypsy scale and commodities price cycles, they don't compliment one another.

Charlie Munger talks about having a 'mental model latticework' superficially this means learning all the 'big ideas' in each discipline - especially the hard sciences. But what it actually means, and this is the tricky part, is creating almost like a mental cheat sheet for each industry you invest in that contains the mechanics of each of these 'big ideas' or theories relevant to the industry, and a cohesive understanding of the logic or phenomena that underlie them. I emphasize cheat sheet, it has to be something that is easily remembered, use mnemonics or mental images if you have to, so if someone says "I supply fabrics to a fast fashion retailer" in a matter of seconds you recall your mental cheat sheet and you remember all your "fast fashion big ideas' - low inventory/showroom model, Bangladeshi Textile Industry, millenial customer profiles... or whatever those models might be.

This takes a lot of work, consolidating all this random shit you've acquired and neatly packaging it in your own brain.

The information, opinions, and ideas that can be found on Jow Forums really are amazing sometimes.

One thing I'll say is the more specific your focus, the easier it is to learn subtlety.
Also another thing both Munger and Ray Dalio... and really everyone going back to Socrates talks about is "knowing your circle of competence"
There might be a Dunning-Kruger side-effect if you have a broad knowledge base, to assume that you know more and are better informed about things than you really are - that overconfidence is what breeds failure.
Now - there's an interesting balance point, I can't remember the exact experiment, but it has been proven that people who have a 'fixed intelligence mindest' generally perform worse than people who have a mindset where they believe they can gain greater aptitude: the former have greater amygdala (emotional part of the brain) activation when they are told they got a questions wrong - this leads to self doubt, this leads to a diminished perceived 'locus of control', and basically they don't try to succeed. While people who believe they can gain greater efficacy when told they got an answer wrong, the amygdala doesn't activate until they hear the correct answer. The result is, fixed mindset people only remember what they got wrong and feel bad about it and fail to remember the correct answer; the people who believe they can get better have superior recall of the 'correct' answers.
Now is that something you're born with or can be changed, I dunno... I'm sure oxytocin and dopamine plays a part in it, but I'm no neurologist.
Lesson is - KNOW THE LIMITS OF WHAT YOU KNOW.
What Donald Rumsfeld called the
>Known Unknown

From your list I read:
Dune, when I was 20. Really liked it (favorite fiction book) but it's escapism, you won't learn anything.

Atlas Shrugged, @ 17. You are probably already conservative so I wouldn't spend 10 hours on a circle jerk. I was raised democrat so it was interesting.

Win friends and influence people: this book is not a meme in my opinion. Read it twice and took a takeaway from each chapter. Keep that printed out to be less autistic.

Current favorites: 4 hour work week & millionaire fastlane. These are good as a kick in the pants if you have a business idea on the backburner.

this book list sucks ass

anyone have a good book on learning price action strategies?

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Superintelligence:

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This is incredibly useful stuff...what do you do for a living?

you're going to burn out on all that shit user, you need more fun

I actually find these all interesting - minus 1 or 2 of the dry classics in the middle but felt like I had to read them.

Testosterone Rex by Cordelia Fine. Unironically.

Out on that.

>ad hom
Not an argument.

Not that your list is really hard core user but it's kind of like consecutively stuffing big hard dicks in your mouth, you feel good because they're in there but all that really happens is your mouth starts leaking and you aren't really getting any better at manipulating the dicks themselves. All I am suggesting is switching up with some fun little dicks in between for some light imaginative exercise, which at the end of the day is all it really takes to make it.

Hahahaha.

Well said, I will take that advice though, it does make sense. Thanks mate.