Largest Scam

about 1% of the products are legit and cheap
not the industry's fault there are a lot of retards who pay premium for snake oil

They also have binders and glue that dissolve your intestines and give you cancer.

A lot of supplements are garbage. Protein powder is fine though. I'm a 6'4" lankler and I use mass gainer before bed and lift heavy a few times a week to keep some weight on my body. Much more affordable than the sheer amount of food I'd have to eat.

No one here is saying to eat diet pills kike.

The average person is deficient to vitamin b and d. If you hate mushrooms and citrus (or have a job that keeps you indoors during the best hours of the day) then they are an absolutely good and cheap option

You're probably right, but when you're right you're right, and when you're right you're right right.

But still, I gast to has my creatine, pre-workout and herb pills that possibly might decrease stress and/or improve the hormone system and get rid of dem cortizolz playa.

I knnow these steroid abusing "entrepreneurs" and pocketliners are doing a hustle, but I like to think that I'm getting something out of it.

I really do hate the idea of parting money to these "whatever it takes" type of of hormone abusers and human garbages.

>I use mass gainer
Its literally overpriced protein powder and sugar.

your smegma is 6% protein

A lot of these herbal supplements are common weeds. I heard there was a craze for "Gotu Kola" in Korea, where people were paying out the ass for this shit that's a garden weed. Like $100 a pound and shit.

Saw palmetto's grow wild where I lived and there dried berries sell for like $100 per pound or some other ridiculous number.

Give a source or fuck off.

smegma is 94% fat.

Protein is more than 90% protein your point?

I may have exaggerated the "cancer" part, but vitamins don't conveniently form pellets. You need binders to hold them together. The glues in higher end supplements are less damaging, but shitty Chinese supplements use damaging binders.

You are just not taking them right

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If you don't want to create a line you could resell products. Grey market sarms/prohormones from companies like enhanced athlete and blackstone labs

Is this achievable natty?

>what are excipients
holy shit as a pharmacist this hurts to read
it's just cellulose
if you think they use Elmer's glue to "clump up" vitamins in vitamin pills you're a moron

Whey, Creatin, Magnesium, Zinc

Anyone who is training 3 times a week greatly benefits from it.
All other supps mayyyyyy help.

Yeah
Just do the secret lift

its actually really competitive.
to make money you either need to be
>a hot female with a lot of insta followers or similar
>a competition winning bber
>well connected in the retail business

Why is it then, that the only "muh supplements are bad" people I've ever met are all tubby beta cuck nu-males? I've even met a few who think roids don't work ffs. Meanwhile, swole-gods have carefully planned stacks that work a charm. It's almost like mainstream medicine is just another jew scam, and doctors are just annoyed that they can't patent troll vitamins.

Creatine monohydrate works. Most academic researched supplement of all time. There are a lot of gimics or supplementware out there if you don't know what you're doing.

>Meanwhile, swole-gods have carefully planned stacks that work a charm.

Implying supplements made any difference there. The really swole dudes are all on steroids bro. That shit is the only thing that really works. Only supplements that are worth taking are whey if you need protein and creatine. Everything else is basically bullshit.

The funny thing about supplement gainers is that I can make shakes with double the calories for a fifth of the cost. You should only be buying gainers to cover a specific need like protein or something.

Retarded faggot
Yea there are some fake products, but not all of them. Not close to all of them
I'm not even talking about work out supplements. For instance, let's say i take a lot of stims. I buy L Tyrosine from vitamin shoppe ..... i take 1 or 2 on empty stomach. 1 hour later, i have a bit more energy (dopamine production)

I know my body very well and can tell if something is placebo or not, you are just a retarded parrot that repeats faggotry.
0/10

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Perfect, i wanna transform into a muscular nigger and then fuck your wife in front of you. I'd be more than happy to pay for your sterilization as well ehe

OP is including whey and creatine though. And honestly, I've cycled with and without aminos etc - there's a big difference. Plus shit like glucosamine etc being good for the joints. On top of that, a lot of people don't actually eat properly or have other deficiency issues, so vitamins supplements help. I've literally been prescribed Vitamin D before when I was working night jobs (after blood tests), so much for how useless they are. So yeah, lots of shitty scams in the health & fitness industry don't mean it's good to dismiss everything because a bunch of Jews in the FDA can't patent troll with them as easily.

This is a good point too - I've mislabelled aminos before. Know what? I got confused when the expected results didn't ensue. The whole "muh placebo" shit gets pushed way too far.

What about those fake twitter accounts?

Bullshit, I lost 40+ lbs lately with meme pills and working out.

>Probably because it is better to eat food instead of muh mystery pills.
Your food doesnt have even half of what you need.

>what are capsules.

>Everything else is basically bullshit.

Nootropics are great dude, and shit like Niacin can help people with too much shitty cholestorol. Quit talking out your ass because you don't know how to research anything and think all supplements are "muh miracle drug"

Fucking retard. More people die of vitamin overdose than of steroid use, yearly

You mean iron overdose, idiot.

>Imply humans are supposed to take supplements
HAHAHHAHAHAHA

>Supplements are mostly good
Keep telling yourself that. Be sure to rack up another $150 bill at GNC for your snake oil and chink dust.

>implying humans dont need supplementation
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

>defending doctors
>suggesting the fat-ass vitamin deficient mcflubs eat actual vegetables instead of oreos

wew laddie

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See . You are paying for bullshit that can be obtained from eating properly. You just piss and shit out all your snake oil and chink dust.

>Strawman: the post

>Implying that workout scam supps are the same as pharmaceutical grade multivitamin
>implying no one has any deficiencies
>implying GNC is the only place you can get vitamins
>implying osteoporosis just happens randomly.
see pic related, its you.

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Literally eat healthy for all of your "points." Stop trying to justify throwing money down the drain for snake oil, chink dust, or vitamins/minerals that can be obtained from a proper diet.

And where do you think your food comes from? Why are people immune to deficiencies just from "eating healthy?"

Stop coping, Chang. Just eat a proper diet and thank me for telling you to quit chink dust

My point isn't that you're technically incorrect, it's that your logic is flawed when talking about "most people" who have deficiencies. People would also be healthier if they walked everywhere instead of driving. Of course people could simply eat healthier, but they won't. How many shitty ass parents serve their kids pb&j and kraft macaroni 7 days a week but think that flinstones vitamin makes up for it? Also doctors profit from illness and disease and generally seem to know fuck all about nutrition.
and you seem so mad when in reality most people are talking about actual vitamins and mineral supplementation in the case of a deficiency, not advocating for every single person to spend 100 dollars a month on jew pills. No one denies "diet" pills or magic berry powders are a scam. Have you even considered the fact that millions of people have allergies and immune or gastric diseases which might cause dietary restriction? I'm allergic to legumes, nuts, fish, and shellfish, which contain some things not found in much else, so I take a vitamin. I also eat healthy and lift 6x a week, which again brings me back to my original point, which is that MOST PEOPLE do not even take the basic steps to be healthy, so of course taking pills is going to be their choice over actually making an effort diet-wise.

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retard u dont need that much protein, also, faggots in this thread, go to Jow Forums you dumbass weebs

True.
Actually there's nothing more toxic for your blood than proteins.

Let alone all of those flavour enhancers and synthetised vitamins.

My vitamins dont come from China dummy. Call me when you get a degenerative condition and I will set you in the right direction. Or you can just take drugs for your restless leg syndrome. Your call.

i took lgd 4033 and gained 10 lbs of pure muscle

would buy again

ya humans are pretty much the ONLY animal on this earth that gets gout, because we don't produce uricase, a natural byproduct of protein. anyone that eats more protein(15%) than they need to is a brainlet

I started reading this and I thought it was about crypto scams. kek

don't produce uricase to deal with uric acid, a natural byproduct of protein*

Drink egg whites. Costco has a six pack for 9 dollars

>in the entire West
stopped reading

I've been researching the scientific evidence on supplements for a long time, and I've taken pretty much everything. Here's my take on the issue.

1) If you don't have evidence (bloodwork results) that you have a deficiency, don't even bother taking supplements.

2) If you do have evidence, take a supplement, but also try to figure out what is causing the deficiency.

3) Stuff like Phenibut (which is marketed as a supplement) may work wonders, but that stuff is barely legal. I wouldn't even call it a supplement.

3) Magnesium is the only supplement worthwhile taking since magnesium deficiency is very common in the US. But you might as well eat some cereal with added vitamins. It's the same as taking a supplement.

4) Iron deficiency is very common among women and children. But then, again, why would you bother taking a pill that gives you diarrhea? Just eat some red meat. If that doesn't work, there's plenty of Iron added to most cereal brands in the US.

5) Shit like copper can be dangerous if you eat vegetables regularly. Don't take it. Just eat some kale or spinach.

6) If you're dark skinned living in high latitudes you might want to take Vitamin D.

7) Overall, eat your fucking veggies. Eat at least or a plate of salad a day and you won't need any supplement. Carrots, broccoli, cauliflower... the more vegetables, the better. If you have trouble digesting it, you can boil or steam it. Add some ground black pepper to everything you eat. Black pepper helps your body transport the food's nutrients.

That's pretty much it. Don't waste your money on multivitamin supplements.

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>Eat at least or a plate of salad a day and you won't need any supplement
Biggest myth ever

also
>cod liver oil
>vitamin K2
>vitamin D

yeah salad's pretty worthless in nutrition, don't know why he recommended it. cooked greens are definitely good for nutrition though, but most people aren't into eating a big ass plate full of spinach kale and bok choy. i mean like actual big plate btw. like at least 2 pounds of that shit with variety. they should consist majority of the volume in your diet(not calories, volume) while you subsist on calories from shit like grains, nuts, seeds, and potatoes and trust me you will never run into any nutritional problems again.

Fuck off OP. I take creatine, protein powder, and pre workouts. I have amazing gains. A sugar pill? Really? You boomers get more retarded by the day. I bet you think prescription drugs is poison too.

Also

>not taking vitamins

You will never make it. I've been religiously taking nature vitamin pill daily which has all the essentials in it. I have not been sick once since and it's been over a year, I usually get sick in the winter ever year. Haven't had as much as a cold, and yes I attribute it to the vitamins a good amount. It's baffling to me we live in a time where it couldn't be easier to stay at the top of your game throughout your life but dumbass boomers think everything is a conspiracy. I will admit I overpay for shit.