I've worked for three years for one of the biggest gambling sites in Europe

How is Malta nowdays?

I assume you were there since most of Europes large Casinos are based there. Shithole regulations.

They'll say its "irregular playing" if you fucking win, lmao.

I read about all of this shit before and thought it was a great idea to open one, but then I realised it's literally scum of the earth tier. Straight up robbery in many cases. They get away with it because of that illusion/delusion that all people have over 'authority' in that we seem to instantly believe any 'big serious' company won't cheat/scam/rob us blind.

That's where you're wrong, kiddo. There might be some casinos there, physical, I mean, but lemme tell you something: The licensing of gambling companies is a meme, like literally a meme. The bosses even laugh at it sometimes. The headquarters for sites are everywhere, from Bulgaria to Brazil. Those (((regulatory institutions))) are no more than companies that sell licenses. So give me the money and I will tell everyone you are trustworthy. They don't solve ANY problem. The gambler/bookie relationship is completely unilateral.

Like I said, my dude. Being a wagecuck sucks and I didn't see what I was doing with my life. I should never have worked in a place that I was ashamed to say what it was. Scum of the earth doesn't translate what the bosses's real nature is.

Give me some detailed anecdotes lad
Worst things he done?

Is Fun going to make your job no existant?

-Denied multiple payments from good clients and made me lie and basically black-mail them into giving up.
-Sold personal data from the clients to another site (YES, THIS HAPPENS AND THE EXCHANGE IS CONSTANT AND WHEN YOU REGISTER IN A GAMBLING SITE YOU NEVER KNOW WHO'S GONNA END UP WITH YOUR DATA)
-EVERY WEEK he denied any payment at all for whatever operator that didn't reach the quota (operators are a term for the guys that sell physical betslips).
-When a client requested a rollback from Neteller after betting the credits, he (the boss) said to another guy from there to get the adress info on the register, go to Google maps, take a photo of the gambler's house and threaten him via whatsapp, saying that if he didn't transfer the money, we would send someone to his house to get it.

The list goes on.

test question to see if you're real: what is a contingent wager, and will, or wont you pay out on it? And what are the reasons for paying/not paying out on it?

Lol whats the site
Is it in the uk?

I used one of these sites recently to launder lol

I'm sorry, I'm not bashing you. But I could get this in Google. Gamgling knowledge would just prove that I know how to gamble. Like you know it, for example. Now, do you work for a gambling company? See?
I think my prior responses were proof enough that I worked at it. Believe me, it's not something I would happily pretend that I did.

I don't think I should say it, but lemme explain how it works. There are multiple gambling networks. The same owner can own many many gambling sites at once. The domains and backoffices and systems are very cheap. Two or three clients alone can make a betting site profitable.
Companies that I got to know from the inside because of the shared """knowledge""" that employees have: Bet365 (huge, huge network), 10Bet, Bet9, Sportingbet, 1xBet (filthiest "company" to ever exist. This shouldn't even be called that). Wish I knew more about Betfair, but never managed to. It seems the exchange method actually is somewhat consistant when compared to pure gambling. Can't guarantee it, tho. Never seen from the inside. It just seems to me.

Is there any overlap with camming/porn sites in these networks?

interested in the answer to user's fun question

tell me about arbitrage opportunities and how they're seen

Porn and prostitution, never heard of camming. There was actually this funny situation. The owner of the site also owned a small time local escort app. The girls came to know more about the app and do photoshoots in the studio in the office, but I never actually have seen one of them. They were very very quiet and stealthy, as expected lol
I just sat my ass on the desk all day long, didn't get to see the awesome sight.
These sites are atracted to porn because of the ad revenue. When football is on low season they don't earn a lot, and porn gives some steady revenue. The escort thing was more of my ex boss's enterprenueristic vein.

Counterbets (I don't know how to say it in English, sorry): You will be banned wherever if you are caught doing it.
Arbitraging on two or more sites at once isn't reprehended. It's actually encouraged. Our site had the lowest odds, which meant the visitor (least favorite to win) would always be the choice of arbitragers on our site. They would bet on the other team in another site with higher odds. Whe win would be certain for the player, of course, a very small spread, but go figure. We would be happy with it because we always got the visitor team, and they almost always lost, so easy money.

wtf i hate gambling now

I hate much more than you, believe me. Don't encourage anyone doing it. When people call gambling a profession I just cringe on the sight of an addicted dude thinking he is making his life any better. Just stay away from it, man. There are a lot of things better to do with your money.

trips speak truth

Seems relevant - Ludic Loops.
Casinos (and Facebook and Mobile Games for that matter) are basically Skinnerian reward boxes.
ethnographymatters.net/blog/2015/02/09/the-addiction-algorithm/

People like Zeljko Ranagonec, Bill Bentner and others would disagree with you. They all made their fortunes through gambling. However there would only be 0.1 percent of people worldwide who could be considered professional gamblers. Even hobby gamblers who win at it these days get restricted or banned these days so fast. Horrible industry.

What are some general tips to increase your odds at a slot machines? Does spinning slow vs fast make any difference, etc.?

On a slot machine, should you occassionally swithc up a bet? For example play on a 60 cent bet hit a big bonus, then switch to a 120 bet? Stay on one bet, or occasionally switch it up? Do certain times of the day pay better than another?

Are physical slot machines rigged ?
Like centrally controlled from some back office or shit ?

>Gambling is NOT a good investment
But investing in gambling companies and casinos must be, given that people usually lose more than they make

How are online casinos rigged? They all offer you live roulette / black jack / holdem etc.

I only see them rigged in the sense that they make a good profit from side bets, for people who cannot calculate the odds of hitting perfect pairs etc.

Also for slots, everyone knows that a .96 or .98 ROI is expected due to the controlled randomness algorithm. This leaves you with a nearly 50% chance of winning money, if you only play a little.

I don't see anywhere is literally RIGGED as in, they control the outcome. It is completely transparent that slots are eating your money in the long run, as well as any casino game due to house edge.

Wtf, send someone ti his house? Why didn't the guy ho to the authorities and sue their fucking asses?

Not rigged, but the mechanism in them runs a controlled randomness algorithm that basically never lets it lose in the long run.

I'll give you an example.

If a slot machine was pure randomness, there's a chance that the casino will lose money because pure randomness can lead to insanely bad runs for the casino (i.e. 2 ppl can win the jackpot twice in a row).

So they just modified the randomness so that it is not able to give out these jackpots before a certain limit of money is in it (Old ones with coins have a weight system and new ones just have this programmed into them)

What do you think about Augur (betting markets dApp releasing next week on Ethereum)?

And if you don't know about it, research it because it might be about to wreck the gambling/betting scene as we know it.

These euro bookmakres are for normies. Real action is on asian bookies.

Can you speak to me about the Random Number Generator in major online poker sites?

I went on a good run last summer on 888 and cashed out like 5k. Is online poker rigged?

OP here. Regarding slot machines. Yes, they are rigged. In fact, in online slots you can even change the general outcome probability in the backoffice, lowering or raising the win/lose interval for consecutive iterations (spins). This way you can make the casino make more money if needed or lower things down and make players thing they are winning something. BTW, as you should already know, usually the casino software is provided by an indenpendent third-party. They say they are audicted but it's total bullshit. Through the backoffice you get a level of control over the bets so good that you can really write the revenue and profit analytics yourself. And gamblers, of couse, think they are getting somewhere. They are projected to make you win or almost win sometimes, so you just keep on playing and lose more than win after many spins. Very low but steady profit.

Yes, rigged but not impossible to win. That's why I said in the comment up top that it would be one of the only games I would play in a casino. Even if the house is cheating you can do something about it. You know those live casinos where you see a real employed woman croupier shuffling and putting the cards on the table for blackjack? That's peak simmetry for the bookie/gambler chances of winning. The bookie always wins in the long run, but you can actually be one to profit off of it. I wouldn't put my money on it, though.

I made this golden rule for casino gambling: If you cannot see everything that causes the outcome, then you are being moneycucked. If you don't see the cards being shuffled, if you don't see the deck, a real deck piled somewhere, then the system can and will be used against you. Gambling is not meant to be won by the gambler.

A blockchain based gambling API where you could actually see the odds for every outcome would be the best thing ever for gamblers. By the way I heard very good comments about bitcoin sportsbooks like Cloudbet. It seems they give very low odds so they can actually pay people. Same thing for asian bookies like Pinnacle. Somewhat reliable. Not exactly a dog, but somewhat reliable.

any idea on how to?

Dude, you can open a sportsbook or casino with around 1000 dollars. If you know the programming and designing of the webpage, you can make it with less money. The only hard thing is to make people gamble in your site, given that there is one site in every street corner begging to get the client's money.

Search for Betnukleus, Betconstruct and Pulse.

what do you think about FUN?
god tier tech imho but they will have to compete against the titans of the industry like microgaming,netent,playtech etc.

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FunFair will be niche before it can dream of getting a chance on the big market. If people understood how a fair system works, they wouldn't go to Bet365 et al, but they don't. Players actually think that if they lose a lot on one site, they can just move to another and they will start winning there. Gambling addicts are a very autistic kind of human beings.
If FUN proves to be reliable on the long run, for sure it will be acquired by big companies, but I don't think the kinds of Sportingbet will ever use it.
For gamblers you can only hope that FUN or something like it becomes the market standart, and push the companies to accomodate lower profit expectations and more fair customer relationship. Self-regulation at its finest.

Thanks user.

Just to say thank OP.
You are based.

>push the companies to accomodate lower profit expectations and more fair customer relationship.
You don't their target clientele are too stupid to care about this?

That's what I said in the same comment lol
Gamblers are a very autistic kind, they are very stupid.

The randomness in online poker is based on an algorithm that follows the weather and a lot of other weird variables.

Every single attempt on proving it is rigged has not been successful, although the methodology might be a bit dodgy.

Was the company you worked for just a casino or also sports betting? Pro sports gambler here.

I wanna know how much bookmakers are shitting it over GDPR, legally all restricted punters could have their data deleted and go again, how are bookies going to try to get round that?

Also what are the actual metrics bookies use to decide to restrict someone, is it just about how much value they get comparing opening to closing odds?

I'm not working there anymore. What I know from system changes is that whatever data can't be transferred naturally, it is pre-stored and in the most extreme case the best clients would have their data previously saved and segmented for further contact (that is, to tell them to register again).

The ammount won. Normally the case would be to not restrict someone until they try to withdraw (I won't call it cashout because we both know that's another thing). If a bookie limits someone before they withdraw they don't let the guy risk losing their money. After trying to withdraw, when you surely know how much ACTUAL money is at risk, then you start to worry about limiting and lying to the client.
The markets in which you bet can be individually limited and the companies are prone to block you from betting only on the markets you are good at. Again, you need some history and to know how, how much and where the player is getting his money.

>online live dealing blackjack not 100% a scam

lol no

youtube.com/watch?v=l3-OssVlvgc

also you are an expert you can appreciate this other way that they scam: this confederate for the house sits on a streamers right and makes completely illogical game losing plays such as hitting/doubling down on 19 and 20 etc, the net result always being that he takes cards either from the streamer or the dealer that give edge to the house

youtu.be/C6L_GW-5Sls?t=9m54s

every single part of this post is completely incorrect you fucking retard

superusers have been caught on several sites dickhead, and RNG isn't seeded with the goddamn weather

May I just remind you that super-users cannot change the outcome of the cards, neither did they know what the next cards would be. All a super-user has is the ability to see every card that is available i.e. the hands of the opponents and your own.

The reason for this is, that the deck is not predetermined at the beginning of the hand. For every single card that is given out, the deck is shuffled and the random generator chooses a card between the ones that are left, with every card having a numerical value. The numeric value the random generator picks is a process of a signal being shot up in the air, which then determines a value, which is matched into a sequence of other variables that prevents people from calculating or reverse engineering the process.

You clearly have not done your research. Furtherly, I might add that I do indeed work with similar stuff, so I should have a reasonable knowledge on the subject.

And just to specify the other variables :

They real time analyse all user input at the moment of ALL games being played, from this the random number generator picks a button press which then picks a card.

They have so many different ways of picking cards and shuffling.

% of total customer that house ends up keeping on average?

OP here. Customer evasion is very high, mostly because people just bet one or two times to know how gambling works then never comes back again. When I left they had 50% of the last 52 weeks clients still active in the last 30 days. That's very good. Half of the players registered in the last one year time had deposited at least once in the last 30 days. Very active customers are a much lower number, something around 15%. Pure Pareto bullshit, that. Some big gamblers are the ones that really sustain the sites.

Hi OP slot addict here, can you tell filthest shit going on with online slots? I've always suspected the providers such as NetEnt or PlaynGo RTP's are bullshit and they can be changed what fuck ever they want to. Can casinos choose own rtp for different players? Like if i go play now they set my RTP high to win and then for months set it low so i wont win anything or is it random in that case? Cuz always when i win big like thousand euros, im gonna lose for months, does not seem fucking random for me.

I've fucked up with this slot addiction my finance situation, i got debts becouse it and have lost credit status. I've never been pissed off to myself so much than now when i've realized what the fuck i've done. Like i was high on drugs many years.

All these fucking streamers also, they just trying to get teenagers and normies trapped into those slot hell with their aff shit, pisses me off!

Btw, best thread from this year, good work OP

>op here
m8 how can you not notice the id's

so i used to scam casinos by taking their new player signup bonus over and over on sockpuppet accounts and vpn. do faggots still do that

It's almost impossible to open any sort of gambling house in the states unless you're on an indian reservation, are part of an old crime family, or you're a kike with political friends you occasionally fuck children with.

(((Regulators))) will prevent it because it's even more guaranteed money than an insurance company. They're very protective to make sure only fellow members of the tribe get to benefit off the money machine.

Which site? I was able to get my money out of sites pretty easy except for bookmaker

thanks for the link

They have small print as I said stating you can't for example cover the entire board on Roulette otherwise it's "irregular playing", they don't tell you until you cash out so by that point a gambler has either came and lost X or they won the jackpot, went to cashout... nope, I see you covered the entire board on Roulette? No cash for you.

Win win for them. How can they ever lose in such a scenario? Most people will break one or more of their 'rules' without knowing it.

Complain? Complain to who? Ignore your emails, run you around in circles, not obligated to share complaint information with any third party, etc. So as I said, it will always be You (alone) vs. Them (do this daily, team of people)

Thankfully I'm not American nor do I understand why you'd assume I was

OP worked either making this shit up or was part of a sketchy ass website. I've withdrawn 100k+ from unibet on multiple occassions and never ever had any issues. Also with Pokerstars (withdrawn over 300k) never ever ran into an issue or heard about it from friends using these sites. Just stick to the big ones boys.

Which site?
Where do you think online poker is going to head in the future? Do you think the USA might legalize it again?

t. online poker pro since 7 years

I'm speaking the truth and have no reason to do otherwise. I will not say which site it was because I want to save myself the trouble. And yes, bet365 and sportingbet are big and shitty. Just like bet9 and 888. And bovada. I would say just put your money wherever there isn't a zero sum game where either the player or the house wins. That's why the asian houses are so fair gamewise.

I can't say where it's going, but I can only accept that the government will unban it if they allow only a state issued RNG working on authorized sites. That's the biggest fear of shady companies: Regulations. It's worse than prohibition for any betting company.

i'm another former igaming employee, worked in marketing but two friends of mine worked as traders and risk managers.

you are 1/1000 in luck, all accounts that make profit, get closed with no explanation given. it's in their TOS.

the only big bankrollers who withdraw are the ones that are in the negative in the long run.