Why don't you own IOTA?

IOTA is from Europe, Germany to be exact.

If you like IOTA you should like PRL/SHL too. Theyre more synergistic than competitors. I feel like PRL is going to see huge gains soon.

>they fired the gooks to hire cucks
strong sell signal

Couldn't care less

At this point in time, what does IOTA actually DO though?

Checkmate, btw.

With the coordinator, it is a centralized system, which makes the defeats the whole point of cryptocurrencies.
Without the coordinator, it is a vulnerable DAG with very limited use cases at a very high evaluation.
And the devs are rude idiots with no sense for business or professional behavior in front of their holders.

I said it back in December, when they were at $5 and I continue to say this, despite being attacked by many of their followers: anyone who things IOTA is a good investment, is a flaming retard.

Only thing I hold not against them is their engagement for refugees. They might be arrogant, self-deluded pricks - but they are at least not yet another right-wing ancap-edgelords.

The same thing as bitcoin, p2p transfers but without fees and in average 2 minutes waiting... What an idiot.

Yes, it could be considered centralized NOW, but you should look at other projects as well, it's just a part of the process until they take it down.

They are reaching a point where the computer power to reach 33% attack is somewhat impossible, the more people spam the network the stronger it gets, there are a lot of spammers around.

The devs don't give a shit besides developing their product, they have top-notch mathematicians and programmers.

It is a good hold long term for the risk/reward ratio, it makes almost all cryptocurrencies obsolete if they manage to achieve stability on their network + smartcontracts + dapps

Ah okay, so like Bitcoin it is decentralized, has a good wallet, and didn't intentionally have a vulnerability coded in by the devs to prevent anyone forking the coin.

> Oh wait...

Bitcoin has been in development since 2009, IOTA since 2015, do the math.

Well if that's your answer, I feel more comfortable investing in Nano becasue it does all the things you mentioned and doesn't do all the shit that I insinuated.

Not to mention, Nano's devs don't have autism, so that's cool too.

>They are reaching a point where the computer power to reach 33% attack is somewhat impossible, the more people spam the network the stronger it gets, there are a lot of spammers around.
At which point (amount of daily users) is this reached? Also: the larger the network, the larger their value, the bigger the incentive - it is a race which is non-static and also almost impossible to quantify.

>The devs don't give a shit besides developing their product, they have top-notch mathematicians and programmers.
Which is fucking retarded. If I am a top-notch tunnel digger, I may be good at digging. But not at selling my services, especially not if there are competitors already operating regularly for years, who offer their services with a company behind them, which I can sue if shit hits the fan.

>It is a good hold long term for the risk/reward ratio
It is a retarded idea, derived from delusional devs, who are so far decoupled from reality, that even the average silicon valley-scrub sounds like a reasonable and grounded person.

Nano is also a good hold, the problem with you guys is thinking this shit is a team game, if both succeed great, there needs to have competition for progression, but your investment positions clouds your vision

So when you play roulette, you bet your money on red and black?

>investing in 2017's pumpcoin
you're not going to make it anons

ah ffs, if you think IOTA development has 0 value you are deluded, but for each their own

I don't think we can get through to him... Let him learn the hard way.

Sweet jesus listening to brainlets fud iota is mind numbing. At least come up with something good

I'll take my chances

>Dude paying with your car, VW partnership
Anybody who falls for this shit is a goddamn moron

>development

I develop shit after a hearty meal, do you want to invest in my shit. I can take a dump at a Microsoft store and say I'm partnered with them.

An ad-hominem argument, congrats you won

Right, because you are such an intellectual who cums to buzzwords like trinary.

>I'll take my chances
literal skynet coin that already pumped on the hype. your only hope is for them to delivar. no more hype pumps.

Very fitting due to shit coin and Microsoft non-partnership.

it is not a buzzword lol, I programmed in ternary, it is faster but most of the hardware is prepared for binary, so they need to emulate first then execute, which is not optimal. Bosch is making ternary chips as we speak btw

An ad-hominem is never fitting, I don't think you understand that fallacy.

Fair enough, I'm counting on organic growth like I said for each their own.

It is a buzzword. When it comes time for programs to need to be coded in ternary no one will give a fuck. The exact definition of buzzword.

>Fair enough, I'm counting on organic growth like I said for each their own.
good luck bro. it's risky af but if they delivar your set for life

A major corporation is building chips to be programmed in ternary
> buzzword

Yeah m8, I'm out, it's useless arguing with someone who doesn't have a open mind to make constructive criticism, you started well, than it all went to shit

>ad-hominem

I don't think you understand ad-hominem! hahaha. Please google "ad hominem definition" and point out to me where I'm attacking your character.

I'm just making an exaggerated analogy.

Admitting defeat. GG

>Yeah m8, I'm out
every feminist and liberal i've ever proved wrong basically says this
i think he confused himself with the IOTA devs in the definition of ad-hominem

Seriously I wonder if you guys have fun trolling or if you are actually so retarded as to actually act like this. The world will never know.

youtube.com/watch?v=VOJTIOQQPSQ

>Im mad that other people are retarded
Not mad son, only disappointed like your parents.

And you see ... this is an ad hominem. Hope you learned something today, apart from the whole point that IOTA is a bad investment.

Yes yess please continue

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IOTA TO THE MOON

ALUAH AKBAR

t. liberal feminist

>fitting yourself into libconaltfemmasc bs labels
You're a literal cuck and you don't even know it.

>he think to identify someone you have to subscribe to their beliefs
holy kek what a retard

I feel bad for you seriously

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>he thinks autism is a bad thing in this case
>never going to make it

the fact you think i didn't understand your point speaks volumes about your lack of intellectual capabilities. makes sense you'd be invested in an obvious scam.

Friend you literally don't understand the words on the page

belief in the left right dichotomy, not belief in liberalism/feminism you fucking mong. zoom out on life you small scale thinker

how many IOTA to make it?

>And the devs are rude idiots with no sense for business or professional behavior in front of their holders.
Accurate af

There are good autists who become savants, and bad autists who become degenerates.

IOTA has a track record of being the only currency without a working wallet, developed to be (initially) be centralized for "training wheels," and uses the same DAG technology as Nano but is much slower.

Do you think the IOTA devs are savants or degenerates?

>he still doesn't get it
You absolute brainlet, zoom out further

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I just want to point out that you're the only one using pictures in this thread. Arguments not strong enough?

>implying I ever even made an argument and haven't been in here just calling people retards
Tom comeon

enlighten me, faggot

"-BTC/XMR
-ETH/other big sc protocols
-IOTA
Literally the only important coins in the space that actually change how shit works."

>Everyone who doesn't agree with me is a retard!

>Haha! Yeah, I sure showed them!!

I dont know tell me
Ternary is availibe right now for iOS and Android and works like a charm. Desktop is planned aswell.
Just inform yourself: a functioning IOTA wallet was avalible since the beginnig. If you were a big of a brainlet you should not be so dumb and generate Seeds online on scam sites.
I really do no follow NANO, but what I heard was problems after problems. The exchange hack was a complicity of the devs, they messed up the mobile wallet launch, potentional loose of funds etc..

I dont know if the IOTA devs are savant, but please tell me another coin/project that will launch its OWN programming language optimised for trinary + compiler that will allow to run the code on the today used binary systems?

Bruh that's not really an argument when it went unchallenged but also unsubstantiated. But if you need it to be broken down my point was simple. The world needs:
>digital store of value layer, public/private
>smart contract layer
>IoT layer
And probably other things but those are big 3 that stand out. It doesn't really matter which things win those spaces, but they need to be filled and currently those stated are the front runners which may or may not be dethroned by newcomers.

another IOTA sjw btfo

Alright, I'll bite. I don't know the answer to this: Why is trinary an advantage over binary?

And please do not give me "it is quantum computing hack proof" bullshit.

they're actually that retarded.
seriously.

I will enjoy paying my tesla charge with iota while you morons still shill shitcoins on this degenerate yak breeding image board. Iota will be the only top10 coin still doing a x100. Not holding at least 2.7Gi at this time is accepting to never gonna make it.

lower power consumption for IoT based sensors

>>IoT layer
imagine being this retarded

I still haven't gotten any good answers from high-and-mighty IOTA fans.

This statement is actually retarded, though. IOTA cannot 100x. For it to OVERTAKE bitcoin, in the current market, it would reach ~ $40 tops. Hopefully the tesla charge station does the math automatically for you.

Jow Forums doesn't deserve iota

m8 even if IOTA wasn't a thing IoT still would be. If you think industrial internet is just a meme I'm not sure what else to tell you.
That's the answer put simply. It's not supposed to take over as the new thing for everything. It's useful in niche use-cases.

>I still haven't gotten any good answers from high-and-mighty IOTA fans
i'm still waiting to be enlightened

someone answer my question

Yeah but why is my toaster paying my smartphone? Maybe I am retarded for not understanding why network connected devices/data transfer (free) will be charged in the future.

I deal with people (wantrepreneurs) who talk about innovative IT endeavors which sound cool on paper, but are buzzword-ridden nightmares when put in reality. I'll reinvest in IOTA when this future it's paining is real. Hopefully by then they will not have been replaced by another competitor.

What questions do you have for me, wisdom seeking anons?

depends on your opinion of making it.
I'd envision that within 3-5 years you're going to be looking at roughly $300 per mIOTA
That's conservative and giving them an almost trillion dollar market cap
I wouldn't be surprised if it's much, much higher.

You have to add shitload of gates into silicon to emulate ternary logic in hardware. That fucking increases power consumption exponentially. Even compiling the ternary code takes more cycles for program to run and again increases power consumption.

Are you fucking retarded? I haven't read anything so fucking stupid even on Jow Forums for a long time. Do you really think that ternary logic is superior to binary and all the fabs and computer engineers are just lazy not to use it.

Fucking delusional id[iota]

Obviously not doing a x100 eoy, also not the next five. But give it 10 years and a matured ioT ecosystem and iota will be at least at $150bn. It will be The language for iot, similar to what http is to the internet.

everyone is talking iot for years, but nothing substantial has been built with it yet. Why? Because there was a common language missing. Iota will close that gap. Not at least admitting the potential for this is plain ignorant.

significantly reduced power consumption and processing power requirement. Everyone saying that iot cannot work because small devices don't have the computation power (in binary devices) should be in awe because trinary is solving exactly that. That combined with outsourced computations and swarm nodes and literally your furby could complete the necessary PoW.

>implying you want a discussion and are not a literal brainlet who has fun slinging shit
There's your enlightenment brother.
>why is my toaster paying my smartphone
That's just memes user, they wouldn't need to pay each other. And regardless, if they needed to transfer data, IOTA has 0 value transactions for that. The point is that data has value to someone, and you should own your own generated data. Or maybe you give it up in exchange for some service. But if it's private by default you get to choose what is done with it.
>I'll reinvest in IOTA when this future it's painting is real.
This is not a dumb move and anyone who tells you it is is a brainlet. IOTA imo is the front runner, but who's to say what will happen in the future. Play to your own risk tolerance.

Ternary code is godlike anyone who disagrees with me is stupid.

they don't know why, they just think it sounds cool. you're right, IOTA is a buzzword factory for the noobs and soibois to cream over and sound smart when they talk to their friends.
no one is denying there will be devices with sensors that are networked (that happens today). the problem with IOTA is that there is no reason for the token to have an value to individual investors. it will never be used as money. it has a centralized coordinator that can never be removed. skynet coin - congrats, you're funding the enslavement of humanity. the exact thing crypto was designed to fight.

i like iotex more
at least it seems feasible unlike the dag hypetrain
dag should be complementary

Cause your toaster is now smart and you can turn it on from 5000 miles away, but in order to do so you need to send a little bit of miota. Also because its now smart it needs to be secured from virusses and hacks so IOTA is also providing security trough decentralization. Your toaster could ruin you if it was hacked.

Take it slow m8. I belive as much in iota as you do but give it 10 years for 1tn and we are still very well off. $100+ within 3-5 years is not gonna happen.

Dude there is millions of use cases where having iotas with value is useful. Not all of them have to be value transactions, many however do. And coming up with the Coo is just plain old. even eth had a centralized coo in its early stages.

>There's your enlightenment brother.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. deja vu
>

>even eth had a centralized coo in its early stages.
exactly and it's an overhyped overvalued piece of shit too.
>Dude there is millions of use cases where having iotas with value is useful
name two...you know what, name one that provides value to individual investors

>significantly reduced power consumption and processing power requirement. Everyone saying that iot cannot work because small devices don't have the computation power (in binary devices) should be in awe because trinary is solving exactly that. That combined with outsourced computations and swarm nodes and literally your furby could complete the necessary PoW.

Can you tell me what fabs manufactures logic processes for ternary logic. FUCKING ZERO YOU ID[IOTA}

>option 1
only acting retarded hahaa fooled you le epic troll iotards!!1!
>option 2
Legitimately believes the things he's said.

Jesus props to you for being so committed to the role, I honestly can't tell if you are retarded or not.

>imagine being this butthurt
just tell me how IOTA has value to an individual investor when it's purported use case has nothing to do with value storage or transfer. you essentially invested in a non-profit congrats user.

how much of a competitor is ETC in this regard? i read the greyscale assessment on ETC's IOT usecase but i dont buy it.

Charging your tesla, staking iota, paying for Qubic smart contracts, value transfer between economic clusters, instant feeless transations, payment on the data marketplace, shall I continue?

Bosch, literally the fucking biggest iot provider worldwide and connected to literally everything from airplane turbine to almost every car worldwide to fridge sensors to microprocessors.

They unironically are non-profit. Doens't mean the token won't hold value.

Majority of my portfolio iota here.

Both sides of the argument are making asses out of themselves. Jezus fucking christ.

>They unironically are non-profit
why do you think i typed it dipshit
>Charging your tesla
other way to do this
>staking iota
ok, valid
>paying for Qubic smart contracts
muh platform value (the biggest meme in crypto)
>value transfer between economic clusters, instant feeless transations
xrp and NANO already do this
>payment on the data marketplace
i could see corporations doing this, not individuals, but fair enough.