I'm out. I've cashed out, goodbye

Have you ever critically thought about your beliefs? Natural rights are not natural - they are given to a society or group of people through the violence and threat of violence of a state actor.

There's one thing they don't have though, nukes. Nuke the rebellion enough to lower their morale while performing air raids over their bases. USA would probably ask for support from EU since that could affect them as well. The rebellion would end in 6 months max

Are you dumb?
>Nuke the rebellion enough
>while performing air raids over their bases.
>their bases
Do you not understand how guerilla warfare works? What part of Dallas or Seattle do you nuke without creating more rebels from all the civilians you didn't kill? What ratio of rebels:civilians do you need to blow up an apartment building where you took a few potshots from an unknown window?

Do you think they would have large turreted fortresses in the woods?

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>nuke their land/citizens
You are right about one thing. If the government did use nuclear weapons the war would end in a few weeks because the entire world sided with the rebellion and helped the rebellion overthrow the state.

Nuking civilians would guarantee the end of the government.

Unironically Hong Kong

Nah it’s the threat of violence from individuals or groups of individuals.

The relation to the state is irrelevant

>nuke your own citizens

Are you fucking retarded? This is so stupid that it must be a troll but I'll take the bait anyway.

You start nuking your own country and

1. More people will turn to the rebellion, including foreign nations
2. If you do succeed in crushing the rebellion by nuking every major and minor city in the country, congratulations! You are now left with a steaming pile of uninhabitable radioactive shit. Tldr, your country is forever fucked.

If you think military forces (boots on ground) are effective at dealing with guerilla warfare, just look at how well they fared in the middle East and Vietnam. These guys were living in mud huts and caves and had rusty aks and homemade ammo. Sure went great

Individual rights don't exist prior to and outside society. "groups of individuals" is just liberal way of devaluing and segmenting a functioning society. A society is a state actor.

It seems Jow Forums is leaking again. Kindly fuck off.

>Individual rights don't exist prior to and outside society.
Life
Liberty
Pursuit of Happiness
Those fundamental rights exist no matter what state actors are available. Groups of individuals can act together to enforce these rights, but the rights exist before force is applied on either side.

>Boomer_Monster.jpg

>t. hapless happiness

imagine being this dumb and ignorant of real-life combat or grand strategy.

More than half the military would defect right off the bat then there would be a large amount of people who stayed in as moles and there would be no way to flush them all out. People severely underestimate how devoted people in the military are to this country.
>everyone who doesn't share the same limp wristed views as me is a Jow Forumstard
It's called not being a beta male liberal. You'll understand when your nuts drop.

Those "rights" only exist in a society that is strong enough to allow them to exist and end at the borders of that society. Your romanticized idea of universal individual liberties and natural rights are in for a rude awakening once you leave western society.

Rights don't exist, they are imaginary

Only violence can decide whether something is a right

Lonely liberal boy with no strong relationships gets mad. . . Again.

Of course those you won't benefit from those rights if forced not to. But those fundamental rights still exist and the people who have formed a society based on those rights created the most free country the world has ever known

horse shit. you give no argument for why those rights don't exist outside of society. you're talking about the social contract, where individual rights and societal demands meet and conflict. Some things are granted to the individual in return for squashing others.

but there's absolutely nothing, aside from practical ability, stopping an individual from enjoying those fundamental rights completely isolated from society.

You need to expand your library beyond leftist propaganda.

>leftist propaganda
Liberalism, natural rights, and individualism is leftist propoganda that, taken to their logical conclusion, result in anarchy. Yet you accuse me of being uneducated.

If your idea of expressing your individual rights is going far away into the wilds and living a solitary life so be it. You still have to be strong enough to defend yourself against wild animals and other societies/individuals you might encounter that don't care about your natural rights, so called.

>You still have to be strong enough to defend yourself against wild animals and other societies/individuals you might encounter that don't care about your natural rights, so called.
No shit

I was responding to this comment. They couldn't conceptualize that argument on their own.
>you give no argument for why those rights don't exist outside of society

Except your entire argument is that those rights don't exist simply because another group may force you not to adhere to those rights.
They exist whether you're part of society or not, there are societies not formed on those same set of fundamental rights that may try to use force to get you to adhere to their belief, but those fundamental rights still exist.

>Admits natural rights don't exist outside of society.

>pretends his argument wasn't contradicted.

You sound like a faggot. You can rebuild your cities pretty quickly. Look at Hiroshima. You wouldn't even nuke them enough, just a bit so the people know you are serious and they don't stand a chance. If any foreign nation turned against you, you nuked them too to teach them a lesson.
About ground troops, that's why the air raids would happen. They wouldn't have enough air force to compete, if any at all. I doubt any civilians have jet fighters.

They must gather somewhere, right? So perform air raids where they gather. And civilians? Who cares about them, are you a woman? We are talking winning a war, not saving more civilians.

>Admits natural rights don't exist outside of society.
I did nothing of the sort, you said it yourself that they exist outside but you have to be strong enough to enforce them. If nobody is forcing you to act against your rights then there's a problem but the fundamental right still exists.

>They must gather somewhere, right?
No?
>We are talking winning a war, not saving more civilians.
You're completely retarded

Imagine being enough of a bootlicker to actually perform mental gymnastics to defend the state nuking it’s own citizens as a feasible way to suppress insurrection. Statists are the worst lmao.

I'm aware. A community comes together collectively to assign people roles of power that are given solely to safe guard agreed upon rights.

The top part of the image implies that a lineage or conquered has an assumed authority (through force or nepotism) and they give people rights of their own choosing as if they're just peasants who pay taxes.

Can I get something straight. Do Amerilards ACTUALLY UNIRONICALLY believe this?

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Believe what? Use your big boy words

>citizens would fight a conventional war against totally cohesive U.S. military supported by a healthy economy

What's it like being a brainlet?

You are assuming they don't meet up to perform drills, training, etc? How would the 50k war veterans train the redneck traitors with millions of guns to fight against another million of trained soldiers ?
>muh civilians

Stop being a woman. The world is overpopulated as it is. Killing a few millions won't even cause a dent in the US population. Brainwash them into thinking it's for the greater cause against the traitors and they will die happy.

>You are assuming they don't meet up to perform drills, training, etc? How would the 50k war veterans train the redneck traitors with millions of guns to fight against another million of trained soldiers ?
They've been doing that, sure. But these people are going to operate out of their homes not some collective fortress. Do you think they don't realize that drones exist, and to try and create some guerilla camp in the woods isn't going to work?

What happens when a patrol takes shots from an apartment building? That's hundreds of doors they have to break down now if they want to find out who did it, and what's to guarantee they'll find anything? What if someone let's their 'friend' in, they take some shots and scoot out leaving nothing to find?
>another million of trained soldiers
Do you think there would be a million trained soldiers loyal to a government in case of an actual rebellion?

Name a country that doesn't have sociopaths shooting M16's and AK47's at children. Even if Obama didn't do anything he was way better than Trump for god's sake

Nice

What are you even trying to say, retard? Do you think school shootings represent a large amount of gun crime?
>muh gun free zones

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I find it hard to believe people are still falling for the fake emotional propaganda. Trump is doing a great job. Stop trying to manufacture logic out of emotions like a woman.

That's saying fuck you to whatever goddamn church there is around the corner but you know what? consider me onboard

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"big boy words" what has Trump done to the American education system

Does school choice mean anything to you?
How about the recent decision that stops forcing employees to join a union?

what bunch of idiots

Oh you obviously voted for him. No, he's just not. Why do you think people are protesting against him? and especially in the white house's view. You got all these damn sexist people getting at each others throats like they know a fucking thing about war because getting a rifle and shooting someone is easy as pie. and I don't mean any of that "but they're a human being!" bullshit.

>adjust for niggers

Oh look, suddenly the stats look like any other Eurofag nation and you're just a fucking retard that gets gaslit by the media.

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>Why do you think people are protesting against him?
Because they're sheep like you who wouldn't be able to answer anything but surface level questions of any policy (if even that)

>user cashes out
>literal guerrilla war tactics
>didn't even wish him godspeed

what the fuck is wrong with you people

cya next time

>civil war
>healthy economy

Yeah not anymore kek. What are you gonna do? Kill everyone that plays vital roles in society?

>mobs protesting indicates anything
democracy was a mistake

That's being taken care of.

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lmoa that's literally like shooting yourself to cure an infection

Exactly my point. Even if you make the dumb assumption that the armed forces wouldn't be splintered all to hell, a military doesn't run on magic.

>Uh oh
>Civil War is going on
>Better start a draft for more military
>Better nuke my own country
>Tell them the rebellion is wrong and that will work
Dude has to be a troll. No one can seriously be that retarded and functional.

You're free.....to do what they tell you

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Every other country that allows their citizens to invest in icos. In America they want the rich to get richer, while the rest of us languish.

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daily reminder liberals are this brainlet about war and violence

Your Kids sell Lemonade on the Street
"DO YOU HAVE A PERMITT FOR THAT COMMIE????"

Did you miss Vietnam, Afghanistan?
US military sucks at dealing with guerillas with half century old guns.

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>list of countries that benefit from US military superiority
They're still not as free lol

This is bullshit. By what metrics? How the fuck is Chile on there?

How does Hong Kong benefit from US military Superiority?

cato.org/human-freedom-index
There's 79 distinct things they measure.
Relevant ones in this case would likely be
Legal System and Property Rights
Access to Sound Money
Freedom to Trade Internationally
Regulation of Credit, Labor, and Business

ur mistaking anti war sentiment with us actually losing. we were shitting on them and we weren't even going full force, also war crimes are a thing that we had to avoid.

also brainlets above thinking that just because u own a gun u actually know guerilla tactics and how to fight, lmao. shooting a stationary target and watching youtube videos and reading books about war strategies doesn't mean shit. u dont know how u would actually act in a scenario like this, so quit pretending ur anything more than keyboard warriors. also ur all forgetting that people like me will infiltrate ur retarded chain of command and get u all killed from within, not everyone is gonna side with the retards rebelling lmao

By these metrics.
+Hours Regulation, Mandated Cost of Worker Dismissal, Conscription, Administrative requirements, Bureaucracy cost, Starting a business length and cost, Extra Payments/bribes/favoritism, Licensing Restrictions, and Cost of Tax Compliance

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Are you okay? You sound kind of, off.

Held for 6 month through fierce bear cannibal market
>sold literally days prior to trend reversal
>you just cant make this shit up

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>reversal
Oh look it's this opinion again

i just have an actual brain and think about what's realistically going to happen. this isnt 300 years ago where citizens were fit and had an actual fair chance of fighting due to the technological gap being small. the obese brainlet pussy whipped citizens we have today stand 0 fucking chance against an actual tyrannical government with no morals now, and it's retarded to think what happened before will produce the same results in a completely different environment and society.

>18 posts by this ID
Oh dear God let me guess, you just sitting here now coping with regret selling all time low while rest of the Chads celebrate 4th of July with gains to $7000
>pathetic

Chile is SA Switzerland

Waiting for my gf to get off work so we can go to the lake and watch fireworks. Lolwhatareyoudoing
I'm still up, but I'm going to buy an AR and rebuy my stash after it drops down even farther
>it's going up this time
ahahahhaha

>rebuy my stash after it drops down even farther
oh user about that...

>>sold literally days prior to trend reversal
> trend reversal

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you cant play online poker.

switzerland

>Name a country with more rights and freedoms than the USA

Is prostitution legal across the USA? The fundamental human right to trade sexual services for money.

>UAE
lmfao

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Happy July 4th to my fellow Americans in this thread.

To everyone else who feels so threatened by my country that you have to ironically shitpost about us, enjoy lying to yourself for the rest of your life about how whatever shithole you live in is better than USA. Reality check: it's not even remotely close.

US MOTHA FUCKIN A

Happy 4th to you too bud.

I don't know any other place in the world where I can go grab a bottle of whiskey, buy a gun, an ounce of weed, and order an escort all legally and around civilized people.

DESU our body count numbers were fantastic in both of those conflicts...it's just tough when you need to abide by strict rules of engagement (i.e., you can't kill every man, woman, and child).

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Grats for selling near the bottom

it's really not that simple
you aren't going to be able to convince johnny bucktooth to bomb his hometown

Asian race is the pacifist route throughlife confirmed

Decades old tech in the hands of untrained Afghanis didn't seem to do so poorly. Taliban still runs the place and everything, literally had to invite them to the table for the new Democracy.

>didnt nuke the middle east
>lol theyll just nuke their own country
How fucking retarded can a person get?

Are Cops included in that Graph?

Probably good choice, OP. I think she's about to dump.

> Can't drink till 21
> Can't gamble online, inc online poker which people make a living out of
> Can't gamble outside designated areas
> Can't open carry liqour
> Can't buy fireworks

You are retarded if you think US has the most rights. All of your laws are decided by lobbyists, the average gun owning citizen has no say in how the country is run.