Are people who are against vaccinating common in your country?

Are people who are against vaccinating common in your country?

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No. Finnish people are completely incapable of questioning anything the government says or does, never mind acting against it.

Recently they sprung out of nowhere in huge numbers. Even my own sister is one and she has kids. This is insane.

Yes, they're very common.

Not without cause. Vaccines have been known to cause serious neurological illness.

Surely you're an example of those.

I have a degree in biochemistry and I am going to be kicked out of doctorate due to my later fuckups. But I have an oportunity to misuse my hard earned expertise to give more credibility to antivaxxers and make cash.

Nothing personnel, world.

No, but the thousands of European kids who got narcolepsy as a result of swine flu vaccinations a few years ago are.

>i can't believe people refuse to inject their children with mercury and formaldehyde, ugh they are so stupid!

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Chicken pox is okay I think
I got it as a kid as well and the hassle was done for.
In essence, it's the same thing as getting a vaccination except that the kids will be bedridden for a few days. At least it's better than antivaxxer parents not letting their kids get in contact at all, which means that they're risk of contracting a severe infection if the kids get chicken pox as adults

I got chicken pox a few years ago, it sucked

>evropoor "scientists" botch a simple vaccine batch
>OH NOES ALL NEEDLES ARE SCARY

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insane is not realizing what time period you live in.

tell your sister from me that that she is smarter than her dumb polak brother

They started popping up in the recent years.
Parents bringing their kids to kids with chicken pox is a good thing, though, and is not limited to only those anti-vaccination crazies. You're better off getting chicken pox in your childhood and getting it over with than waiting until adulthood when it can kill you.

Flu shots are a scam.

I'm convinced my niece isn't going to get vaccinated. Too bad her mother was like 40 when she got her so she still got the 'tism

Oh wow, narcolepsy, the deadly disease! We'd rather afford kids dying from viral diarrhea, polio, meningitis, haemophylus influenzae infections, and have a fucking lot of lobotomized kids thanks to measles, rubella in pregnant women.

Same here. India had eradicated Polio and Leprosy cases, but they’ve popped up back recently due to literal idiots listening to ‘natural healers’ claim vaccines are ebil

pls go away sister of that user
and show bobs also

flu shots prevent you from getting deadly pandemic influenza, not common cold.

I wonder if these people know the side effects of the NSAIDs they be popping everyday for the slightest pain in the knees they have

why do you get flu shots?Are you diabetic?Are you60years old? or does everone get them in America?

>We'd rather afford kids dying from viral diarrhea, polio, meningitis, haemophylus influenzae infections, and have a fucking lot of lobotomized kids thanks to measles, rubella in pregnant women.
Well, I would.

Does your country have a national health system? None of those shits are cheap to treat.

You technically eat radioactive material every time you eat.
You retarded troll

>hurr vaccines are bad they cause autism.
>natural vegan oils so much better.

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How can you make fun of these chicken pox parties and at the same time defend vaccinations?

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yes

they also vote bolsonaro

>tfw your aunt doesn't vaccinate her kids
All of Thanksgiving I feel like I need to wash my hands

My aunt is a nurse practitioner at one of the best hospitals in the country up here in Boston but she refuses to vax herself and her teenage daughter who’s pretty healthy. And yet she’s also a single mother so take all that with a grain of salt.

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So what's the deal with antivaxxer?
They focus on some factoids about le evil vaccines and miss the bigger picture?

They think they are smarter than they really are, that's the crux of the matter.

There was one, ONE “study” that came out from an American doctor that didn’t hold up under scrutiny and journalistic peer review and was discredited by multiple NGOs as false, but it helped kick off the anti-vax mania in this country.

>nurse practitioner in charge of knowing shit

But why this anti vaccination "movement" all of the sudden? Yeah people in the days of yore didn't get vaccinated. In the days of yore, child mortality was through the roof tho.
Sounds pretty simple to me.

Social medias

>India eradicated polio and leprosy

Are you fucking serious? India has never ever eradicated frigging polio, let alone leprosy.

Personally couldn't care less if parents let their children die of preventable diseases.

They also shouldn't be eligable for any sort of healthcare if the illness was preventable via vaccination

It’s a psychological thing, some people are inherently emotionaly concerned about "purity" and dislike "dirty" things such as injecting some chemical into your body

this. if you don't vaccinate you shouldn't get public healthcare or get to put your kids in public daycare or school.
pretty sure there's been some cases with the "silver water" etc here recently

Unfortunately. I agree that the socialised healthcare is the real problem and should be abolished post-haste.

You can be well educated and have a good job but still be a complete retard.

Where are you from ? You’re ignorant.

polioeradication.org/news-post/how-india-eradicated-polio-challenges-and-lessons-learned/

India still reports 58% of world’s leprosy cases and is fighting to find an alternative to the TB vaccine we already use.

You did what now?

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Read my post above. Leprosy cases pop up constantly because people are dirt poor and never turn up for medical camps conducted for homeless people.

Contracting leprosy is really hard and the only way you can do it is if you sleep next to a beggar at the railway station or the bus stop.

>Leprosy cases pop up constantly
So it wasn't eradicated?

Among normal people who can take a trip to the doctor, it’s been eradicated. You take the vaccine for it early like for Polio.

Among literal beggars, sewage dwellers, who never show up for the free medical camps, then no it hasn’t been eradicated.

It is illegal to be this type of a retard.

Prevent what?

It is always "the wrong strain". You might as well inject yourself with saline, because it does jack shit.

They want everyone to get them.

Frenchman who works for Sanofi who stands to lose.

Vegans are against mostly

>mfw Americans don't vaccinate their kids but nake them eat fast food almost every day
Why?

This
Stupid people can now gather together in a critical mass.

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To make them immune to hormones and antibiotics

No, it's mostly conservative soccer moms from the s*burbs

>3 of the Great Lakes have leprosy
>Alaska is so large it expands all the way to the lower 48
>whatever the fuck is going on in Kazakh-Uzbek border
>Iceland has the highest rate of leprosy in the world

chicken pox is not something you vaccinate against you mong, it can be dangerous, if you dont get it in early age it can make you infertile in later age

my mam wouldnt let my sister get a HPV vaccine. Someone we know got it and developed narcolepsy after it

>vaccines give you autism!
>Polio and HPV are much better than that!

That’s complete bollocks mate, if she developed narcolepsy it would have been completely unrelated to the vaccine.

No but the government gives them voice and legitimacy making them sound more than they are

They are getting increasingly common, mostly among evangelical housewives due to influence of American missionaries within the non-Lutheran Free Church and mainline protestant circles but this is the country that SWATs parents for home schooling their children so I have faith in the German state to restore order.

if your sister needs a hpv vaccine then youre a pretty fucked up family

Chicken pox parties are a good thing though. Catch chicken pox as a child, have pox for a few weeks, become generally immune to future breakouts because the virus remains dormant in your body. Don't catch chicken pox as a child, risk contracting it as an adult, at which point it can cause much more serious complications, including bronchitis and pneumonia to the extent of death.

Do you know how to read a fucking map or are you just blind?

you will have to accept it eventually, its the thing with contemproary society - rise of such religious people
you can contain protestant fundies, but once hasidic jews and integrists and salafis come in youre properly fucked

>you will have to accept it eventually, its the thing with contemproary society - rise of such religious people
Not really. These are already religious fundies that decided to detach themselves from the big state churches.

Religiousity has just dropped to 0.0% among

>Religiousity has just dropped to 0.0% among

Yes

The disease lies latent in you for 50-60 years and reactivates as one of the most painful rashes you’ll probably ever have

You’ll be bedridden in pain. Good work, parents!

lel

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5406435/

this is a really shitty thing to say, but it's mostly a self-correcting problem. when the unvaccinated get sick, they learn their lesson. It's just a damn shame that some people can't be vaccinated or immune compromised, and are vulnerable to this retardation

>So(n)yboy is retarded
Who would've thunk?

Don't know any, and I'm pretty sure It's mandatory in Russia, they simply vaccinate you in schools with no questions asked, you just have to do it.

based Untermenschen

Are there vaccines against chickenpox nowadays? Pretty sure everybody tries to get their kids to catch it. The idea is that kids have it much milder and catching it once gives you lifetime immunity, so it's basically a makeshift vaccination.

I had it when I was like 4, so did everybody I know.

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This thread makes me wonder if zoomers are all gonna die off in a chickenpox epidemic.

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everyone i know except me got it cause my parents are paranoid and vaccinated me agaisnt every smallest shit, now my immunity is basically non existent and i get sick all the time

This. Used to be that retards (sub 120 iq) couldn't effectively communicate without having the assistance of an adult.

>child mortality was through the roof
that has nothing to do with vaccinations autist, but because of improved natal care and obstetrics

Vaccinations have massively cut down on deaths caused by all kinds of infectuous diseases. It's not the only cause of reduced mortality but it's definitely one of them.

>Vaccinations have massively cut down on deaths caused by all kinds of infectuous diseases
so?
do not imply that has a major effect on child mortality

Aren't children one of the most vulnerable groups when it comes to infectious disease?

my mom had me get chicken pox when I was a kid too
i'm pretty sure that is common

half of diseases are vaccinated only later during primary school

But it does. A fuckload of children used to die from smallpox, flu, polio, whatever. Vaccines curtail the spread of those diseases just like flushable shitters prevent the spread of dysentery and cholera.

The reduction of child mortality is probably in significant part due to vaccines.

its a smaller factor than better hygiene, hospitals equipped to deal with difficult pregnancies, better drugs and access to healthcare
>flushable shitters prevent the spread of dysentery and cholera
lol

>mfw my neighbors are anti-vaccine freaks
>they have 2 kids and have both been to university
>they seriously believe diseases are made up by the pharme industry, that vaccines are poisonous, cause autism and a million other things

Hope their kids don't die from Tetanus or whatever before they get old enough to make their own decisions.

>people make their own healthcare decisions waah waah
why are conservatards like this

ITT: gullible tin foil hippie boomers who are convinced by facebook vegan blogs that vaccines cause severe brain damage.

Your kids will suffer cause of your poor judgement, then you'll be begging the people at the hospital, who btw have all been vaccinated, to save your kids cause their lungs have shut down from some deadly disease that you should have protected them against ages ago.

My grandmother told me that you used to say: "You are not a mother until at least two of your children died."

funny thing
they don't make iron lungs anymore
if you have polio you're severely fucked

Wahh wahh we have public health care and doctors trying to stop them from dying from easily preventable diseases is going to cost millions of public money. If we had private health care like the US they could do whatever they want, it's their life.

(Vaccination should still be mandatory for minors though)

what a retarded logic
why dont you advocate banning of alcohol and cigarettes and fast food then
vaccines are definetely a good thing, but you are a paranoid authoritarian freak

You can't infect other people with alcohol and cigarettes, that's why.

except you can and passive smoking damage is very real
also parents give their kids unhealthy food
also pollution
why dont we just institute a mass totalitarian state so you wouldnt feel uncomfortable with hippies being your neighbours

Alcohol and smoking are already banned in areas where they are severely affecting others like in public buildings or while driving. The same applies to vaccines. If you are not vaccinated you are not only a danger to yourself, you are a danger to others and not even some random person, but even worse, the most vulnerable members of a society. Little children, old people, people with severe medical conditions and surpressed immune systems, organ-recipients. Walking around in public without vaccination is like drunk driving.

>Alcohol and smoking are already banned in areas where they are severely affecting others like in public buildings or while driving
so the same thing is done with non vaccinated kids and they cant eroll into kindergartens and such
>If you are not vaccinated you are not only a danger to yourself
no shit, whatever you do you are a danger in some way
thats why we dont install cameras with direct connection to police into peoples cars to see are they fastened
>Walking around in public without vaccination is like drunk driving.
you mean like driving in general since whenever you do it without being paranoically safety-conscious you are a danger in some way

Why the fuck is there a vaccine against chicken pox now? You don't need it, just catch it naturally and take a couple of weeks off school. I'm not an anti-vaxer but I do think we should stop stuffing children, especially young children, with drugs they don't need.

my mom is anti vax lmao