>2 million coin premine, over 40% of the entire supply, devs posted a public key to view it but there's no way to tell if the premine has been dumped since we can't see outgoing transactions
>premine has not been locked this entire time due to the change of blocktimes (understandable) but now there is no ETA on when it will be locked
>all three of the exchanges it's on are extremely low volume that nobody wants to use them; Dero won't even be on any new exchanges until at least August
>there are supposedly three developers working on Dero, but, in the 8 months it has been public, we've only seen one dev and two support members
>community manager Serena keeps putting her foot in her mouth by making promises the devs can't keep
>Serena keeps banning people from the Discord instead of muting them or moving them into a "time out" room, and although all of these bans are fair, those who get banned feel resentment to the point that they'd never support Dero and would instead further degrade the coin every time they see it whether it's warranted or not
>say they respect the Monero devs then proceed to call them "stupid" saying they can't code and making badly put together MSPaint charts of how Dero is superior to Monero
>what they don't realize is that no matter how superior Dero actually is to Monero technology-wise it means absolutely nothing without any new exchanges or marketing/advertising
>by not telling about the late switch to keep the ASIC-friendly algorithm and delayed the full source code release (the part with DERO-DAG, bulletproofs, etc.), they alienated a large part of their userbase
>userbase is sitting around doing NOTHING and waiting for the Foundation to be set up and the source code to be released all the while the price is plummeting
>this wouldn't be an issue if Dero was on more exchanges since the Dero could be spread out but instead a large amount of Dero is clogged up
>website is outdated and takes up a large amount of resources so it's very laggy
DERO SCAMLANTIS
Oh, I'm sorry, were you expected another one of those hilariously over-the-top FUD threads where everything was blown out of proportion? Nah, none of that this time. Everything I have presented is 100% grade A truth.
At this point, there is no questioning that Dero holds a huge technological edge over nearly every other blockchain out in the market today. However, with its lack of marketing, advertising, new exchange listings, price decreases, efficient communication, delayed promises, lack of community support, overwhelming FUD support, and, most important to some, evidence of an actual technological advantage to prove their claims, they are DEAD. IN. THE. WATER.
The Dero team could literally announce Wei Dai as its developer, release a unique Virtual Machine, and implement private smart contracts, and the price wouldn't increase a cent. Without addressing all of the issues above, Dero is not going to do anything but remain at a sub-$5M marketcap.
I dare any Dero supporter to challenge anything I have said today.
Finally some legit statements.
Notice how nobody has come to this thread and challenged any of them?
They literally can't.
Every single thing I said is completely legitimate criticism that they cannot respond to.
Don't be surprised if this thread gets archived before anyone posts a counter reply.
Those two posts have officials destroyed every single Dero poster ever. Expect to see these posts on Jow Forums basically round the clock to remind Dero posters how big of a scam their terrible blockchain actually is.
>At this point, there is no questioning that Dero holds a huge technological edge over nearly every other blockchain out in the market today.
based on what? there is no source to review so how can you say they have any tech thats more advanced then a generic cryptonight clone?
It may be a very interesting and promising project killed by a succession of mistakes from a amateurish team.
- First thing is: They where doing good until April, when they started Atlantis development. The big mistake there was the release of binaries only, with a closed development. We never saw what was being done in the code.
- After this, they reached the deadline for the promised release date, and then, apparently, tried to quickly clear out all the mess, and lots of bugs were found in the testnet.
- Instead of releasing the code and then run a testnet of it, they tried to fix all the bugs after the deadline in just three weeks, and then run the mainnet and fix all the bugs by themselves only with the still closed source code. Maybe they should have kept the testnet for more time, with the code released, and after some months with the community helping and analysing this code, update the mainnet.
- In the last two months, the members started to mocking the other privacy projects, and even calling other devs names, and banning members after asking legit questions and making true statements. A very amateurish and shady behavior.
- We had the ASIC shitstorm. After promising during two months that ASICs would be bricked after Atlantis release, just some few days before the mainnet update and some members helping with CPU mining all the testnet time, they shocked everybody telling they'll remain with old CN algo (in my opinion, that was the idea from the start, and they lied during all the time before).
- They lied about the premine lock. All the premined coins are in just one wallet, and could be spent at ANY time without anyone else knowing it. The view key, as OP said, is enough only to check the incoming transactions and do not show the balance.
I'm just wondering what will be the next "surprise".
PS: I'm a hodler of this.
The fud used to be a joke but the sad thing is that this is all true now.
>It may be a very interesting and promising project killed by a succession of mistakes from a amateurish team.
^ this
Waiting for the next nasty surprise... Not. I sold most of my bags and feel much safer now. May reload at $0.50 in a few weeks when another shitstorm arrives on the back of some screw up or delay or another lie uncovered. It's a gift that keeps on giving.
I have studied cryptography on my own for a few years now, and I can say with what they've released with just the Golang rewrite that they are ahead of most other blockchains out there today. However, those code upgrades are small in comparison to what they are claiming with Atlantis. The bulletproofs, DERO-DAG, and other features seem downright impossible from a technological standpoint.
As expected, not a single one has been able to put up a single counter point to all the criticisms against Dero.
Someone posted this thread on their discord. Say hi to all the DERO bag holders.
Does it really matter? Their Discord is DEAD. There's more people on Jow Forums reading this thread than in their Discord and Slack channels COMBINED. Every criticism point posted is 100% valid and had yet to be given a single counter.
wtf are you even saying?
i have a degree in comp sci and worked now 8 years in crypto and security related projects.
you are not able to verify any progress unless you audit the code. if the code is based on cn algo which it is per the projects statement they are in violation of the GPL unless they release the source code so they are fucked if they dont release or relicense it.
know what your trying to talk about at least a bit before you make yourself look like a retard on the internet.
This desu, they look like they're doing some cool stuff but their """"""community managers""""" are such fucking dicks it turns everyone off, plus the code is closed source so no-one really believes anything they say nor can they verify it
Hi bagholders, feeling heavy? Sometimes it's a nice feeling, sometimes not and it one of those "not" times. Just admit you got scamned, this is the first step to recovery - admitting your own foolishness.
I already audited the Golang code before Atlantis retard. It wasn't anything too impressive, just that the tweaks they made to their copy and paste of Monero's code increased the productivity by a small amount. The code that everyone is waiting for right now is the Atlantis code, but you can't get that unless you are a '''''qualified''''' cryptographer.
As far as the Foundation goes, are people stupid? Do you guys not realize the second anyone applies for a Foundation anywhere in the world, your information (name, source of funding, etc.) all become public knowledge? Do you guys honestly think a team that has stayed anonymous for 8+ months is just going to quietly reveal their identities just like that?
We can be sure Serena's "ask me anything" campaign will have some soft ball bullshit questions and none of the really important ones. The discord admins publicly admitted they could not care less about public opinion. You reap what you sow.
There will be no foundation, will just keep dumping the premine on the exchanges while they are stalling for as long as they can. $2-3 M is not too shabby for a few months of work. I wonder if the mods are in and are covering up knowingly.
Pretty much this. Public opinion is the #1 thing that drives the price of a coin. It's the reason Dogecoin has a ridiculously high marketcap despite being absolutely useless. It's the reason VHS beat Betamax or why the Dreamcast lost to the N64 and Playstation. Hell, you could release a food replicator to cure world hunger, but if all it can do is make a bowl of oatmeal once every 3 hours and everyone in the world hates oatmeal, people will continue to wagecuck 80 hours a week so they can spend it all on tasty McDonald's.
The community support for Dero is DEAD.
ABSOLUTELY. DEAD.
And they literally DO. NOT. CARE.
They think, "Once we incorporate, exchanges will be BEGGING us to let them list Dero, and everyone will be sucking our dicks and clits once they see that Dero is 200x more scalable than Monero!"
IT. DOESN'T. MATTER.
Everyone HATES the Dero team for all the lies and deceit they've portrayed. They could turn public perception completely around with just a few questions answered and a few days of hard work reaching out to the community. The question is whether or not they'll do that.
>The question is whether or not they'll do that.
They most certainly will not. Too little experience and too much false pride, probably some teenagers in their parents' basements, sure feels like it.
Exchanges want a large loyal user base, not tech, and it sucks for Dero now big time.
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It seems like Dero is developed in China by Chinese Developer. And I am not surprised if it is somehow involved with ASIC manufacturing companies.
The idea of Dero is "CENTRALIZED Private Smart Contract Blockchain Technology under the Decentralized Platform".
Users has "NO SAY" on any of the decision made.
No offense, but how many crypto blockchains in the world today do users actually have a say in? Developers usually do whatever the hell they want. Also, there is no evidence to suggest the developers are Chinese or live in China because they are anonymous, so we have no idea of their nationality or country of origin. The only thing we have a solid fact on is the identity of the community manager Serena and her country of origin, Canada.
Bumping this again.
It has been 5 hours, and there has not been a single counter-argument to a single thing posted in the opening post. The Dero team is completely ignoring any of these criticisms as well. Dero's price is going to continue to fall with no end in sight. Nobody is buying while ASIC miners are dumping in droves.
The challenge has been laid for even one Dero hodler to counter these points, and not one Dero hodler has countered even one point.
Pathetic.
Looking at the Discord and Slack channels, Dero hodlers are completely delusional at this point:
>Just trust them. The Dero team has delivered before!
>I hope Dero goes back to 10 cents so I can buy some more :^)
>You don't win at everything. Just be patient. Dero will go back to $5 by EoY 2019, I guarantee it!
These people are more delusional than Chainlink hodlers, and the Dero team is laughing it up while everyone loses everything. We haven't even heard anything of significance for the past WEEK.
How is the Foundation going? Have they applied yet? Have they even chose a location yet?
When is Dero getting on more exchanges? And if the answer is "after the Foundation" then the opening reply of "no sooner than August" is 100% accurate.
Mojo is from beirut.
Evidence? I'm not questioning you, but I expect proof from anyone making a claim.
He has previously used Aboljamajem as his nick (on GitHub and others), so his name is probably something like that..
The thing with scam projects is that they die in months. They won't be able to hype their projects forever. Look at dero, with no new code to justify. people won't buy their scam. The shill groups can make lot more if they get behind a legit project as the constant work done on the project will ensure people will come to it.
Exactly. No one is buying their foundation excuse. You have to a retarded autistic shit to believe this.
What bugs me the most is: What happens if Dero ISN'T a scam? Imagine this scenario:
It's July 29th, 2018. Dero reveals that it has now fully established its foundation called, appropriately, Dero Foundation. This foundation is a fully-fledged, non-profit organization created in Switzerland in order to help spread the word about its technology Dero Atlantis and to develop relationships with future partners that want to use the Dero blockchain for their own purposes. With the announcement of this foundation, all three devs of the project announce their full names. They release a brand new GUI wallet. They release a fully-audited source code alongside technical papers that explain how the code works in relation to bulletproofs and the DERO-DAG. With this source code reveal, they say they currently have 7 new exchanges they applied for that should be approved within 1-2 weeks. A full marketing campaign begins full of ad buying (IRL and online), media and conference appearances, etc.
If all of this came out, would this cause the price to move up even a little bit? Has the alienation of Dero's fanbase caused the chain to completely die, or are the majority of Dero's "investors" atm, Jow Forums users and are completely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things?
I'd be SO PISSED OFF if all of this happened. I'm just glad that the odds of this happening are literally a million to one since it's very clearly evidence that Dero is a scam.
If is a two letter word for futility. Dero is a scam, you shits just don't want to see it. Keep holding those bags.
Read my post faggot, I already said it's a scam.
You over the top cunts make actual criticizers of Dero look like a joke.
Do you think I am autistic. Anyone with a brain can see that your post is a shill for people to buy or not sell their dero
Biz calling it a scam and FUDDING this coin hard recently. Fuck it, I'm buying.
Excuse me? Since when do "valid criticisms" = FUD? Nothing stated in the OP post is a lie. Everything is 100% true, and not a single line has been refuted.
You'd be an absolute brainlet to commit financial suicide buying this piece of crap.
I'm still waiting for any Dero turds to come up with a SINGLE counter point to ANYTHING in the opening post.
I'll probably give it up in an hour or two as there is no way any of them can think up anything.
Ok, let's take a look. I'll try to answer with what I know about, from the point of view from a hodler:
>2 million coin premine, over 40% of the entire supply, devs posted a public key to view it but there's no way to tell if the premine has been dumped since we can't see outgoing transactions
The premine is true, but don't forget it's 40% of total supply according to the amount mined so far. It's "just" 10% of max supply (before tail emission).
About the premine, they just posted this:
If anyone is interested in checking premine spent status:
Outputs of a transaction can be known if spent or not. That's how the blockchains knows if you own what you are spending or not in a private blockchain
If you really want to see:
explorer.dero.io
That's the premine Tx
If you check the stealth address: 453b94edfae9b0ed7c09b0e08115afe58c24e671cdc917a81446c9e74af288cf
You can run this command against daemon RPC:
curl -X POST 127.0.0.1:20206
And get this result:
{"spent_status":[0],"status":"OK"}
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"spent_status":[0] means it's NOT spent
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>premine has not been locked this entire time due to the change of blocktimes (understandable) but now there is no ETA on when it will be locked
Agreed. They never warned anyone about this before.
>all three of the exchanges it's on are extremely low volume that nobody wants to use them; Dero won't even be on any new exchanges until at least August
Dero had no ICO or any kind of funding. So, be in more exchanges will take time (and really expensive fees). Premine must be enough to cover this in the future.
>there are supposedly three developers working on Dero, but, in the 8 months it has been public, we've only seen one dev and two support members
As far as I know, only one of them address to the public. Really not a concern, since they deliver the code.
>community manager Serena keeps putting her foot in her mouth by making promises the devs can't keep
Totally agreed. The managers, mods, wathever more else are promising things since three months ago, and some of these things were not delivered. They should have been more cautelous at this point.
>Serena keeps banning people from the Discord instead of muting them or moving them into a "time out" room, and although all of these bans are fair, those who get banned feel resentment to the point that they'd never support Dero and would instead further degrade the coin every time they see it...
Totally agreed. Many old supporters and visitors got banned simply for asking legit questions, or for being upset for the anti ASIC priomise. It appears that if they don't like your question, they'll just get rid of you. Many also lost their confidence after seeing this and goods questions don't being answered.
>say they respect the Monero devs then proceed to call them "stupid" saying they can't code and making badly put together MSPaint charts of how Dero is superior to Monero
Totally agreed. Their behavior around the other developers (including XMR lead dev) is completely ridiculous and childish.
>what they don't realize is that no matter how superior Dero actually is to Monero technology-wise it means absolutely nothing without any new exchanges or marketing/advertising
Patially. These things take time, and apparently, the project development is just in early stage. There are some other things to be done yet before they foccus on marketing and new exchanges. If they manage to deliver a good project, these things will come.
>by not telling about the late switch to keep the ASIC-friendly algorithm and delayed the full source code release (the part with DERO-DAG, bulletproofs, etc.), they alienated a large part of their userbase
Completely agreed. They totally alienated the community for two months. Probably they even knew since the start of this period, and lied to the community purposely trying to preserve the trust.
>userbase is sitting around doing NOTHING and waiting for the Foundation to be set up and the source code to be released all the while the price is plummeting
Agreed. There's no other option but to wait. Also, they promised the code with Atlantis update, and then postponed it until the fundation. Again, more unfilfilled promises.
>this wouldn't be an issue if Dero was on more exchanges since the Dero could be spread out but instead a large amount of Dero is clogged up
New exchanges will not change this. The problem is CN emission rewards early miners with most of the rewards of the max supply, and then they are exponentialy reduced after some months, and right now, few ASIC miners are getting all the blocks.
>website is outdated and takes up a large amount of resources so it's very laggy
The page is ridiculously laggy, and it's a shame taking all this time to reformulate it.
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He's a community manager though, not a developer.
They seriously need to address all of the issues and speak to the community instead of sitting on their high horse and acting like they're untouchable. Community support is huge in crypto, if you don't have that, you have nothing.
LMAO you entitled fags think """crypto investors""" will form the userbase of a project as ambitious as DERO? You think it'll matter one iota that DERO has shitty PR and has alienated all the loser neets hanging out on Jow Forums, Discord, and Telegram, if it delivers the world's best private smart contract VM, written in a language optimized for ChainLINK?
Just LMAO at you short sighted faggots.
As the Jow Forums aphorism goes, do whatever the opposite this board tells you, and as you can see, a majority of brainlets have turned against this coin while it's still in its infancy. Just watch, this will pull another AntShares, Monero, Ethereum level bullrun. Faggots.
dubs
>Dero had no ICO or any kind of funding. So, be in more exchanges will take time (and really expensive fees). Premine must be enough to cover this in the future.
Don't you see the paradox this poses? In order for Dero's value to go up, it needs to get on more exchanges, but in order for it to get on more exchanges, it has to pay to get on more exchanges, and to do that, the devs have to dump their premine, effectively stripping away its value just to get on more exchanges.
>As far as I know, only one of them address to the public. Really not a concern, since they deliver the code.
They have delivered no Atlantis code yet at all. None of the '''''qualified''''' cryptographers have stepped forward to post a review. Hell, nobody has even stepped forward saying they've even seen the code.
>New exchanges will not change this.
It actually will drastically. Nobody wants to use stocks because it sucks, and tradeogre is basically a repository of every garbage altcoin. Nobody is going to take Dero seriously until it gets on a reputable exchange with decent volume.
They haven't alienated just the people on Jow Forums, but all their early investors as well by lying to them. Who do you think is dumping the coin right now, loser NEETs? No, the early miners are dumping the coin, getting the hell out, and moving on.
>Just watch, this will pull another AntShares, Monero, Ethereum level bullrun.
How? You do realize AntShares, Monero, and Ethereum all had advertising and connections, right? Dero has NONE of that whatsoever.
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Truth is this is one of the best coins you can currently hodl.
Too bad it's just a fantasy.
The big ego will not let the mods heal the relationship with the public --> the community will not recover. This is a terminal phase of cancer and short of surgery and chemo the prognosis is negative for the future of the coin.
The dedication of the Dero Marine.
Maybe if you Dero posters could come up with original memes instead of copying them from everyone else, you'd have more people on board.
>written in a language optimized for ChainLINK?
LMAO LE SINGULARITY RIGHT GUYS
kill yourself fucking retard linkie
go choke on sergei's cock, you have no claim to talk about anything if you're invested in this shitcoin
Starting the countdown to dump what's left of my bags if any bid shows up, prepare to catch.
kys, pajeet
Then make something original brainlet instead of "lol I put a Dero logo in the forehead of a guy's forehead mask"
How did you even get the Dero logo's resolution to turn into such choppy garbage anyway? Did you right-click resize it in MSPaint or something holy crap
i am not a Dero Marine!
This is the first thread with real questions and as expected no Dero hodler can give real answers.
This coin is dead and that is the way it should be!
>This is the first thread with real questions and as expected no Dero hodler can give real answers.
Literally no answers. There was one guy who tried to argue, but he was shot down quickly.
To Dero marines
On what exchange can I buy this Truth coin?
The price keeps crashing. Seems like 5k is the best escape option you have. It will soon be 1k. Better sell now and be safe
That's if stocks and tradeogre don't try to pull an exit scam
None of the opening points have been refuted.
If that doesn't prove Dero is a scam, I don't know what does.
Lots of bullshit and hatred here
Then refute the points in the OP.
Oh, wait, you can't.
Are you two fucking brainlets? Look at my answers.
But I'm afraid most of them are true statements.
Tradeogre is already in the process of exiting, kek.
Stocks.exchange has over 300K for sale. Poor desperate bagholders all trying to exit...
Brainlet here!
Your answers are great, but would be considered FUD by a true Dero hodler.
Did you already get banned in the discord?
Only if the true Dero hodler is a alienated dumb.
No, I remain quiet just lurking.
I have a small amount of this and I am thinking of this like money wasted on smoking crack. They haven't provided anything to show this isn't a scam but the reward side is great. I've easily blown a lot more on countless hookers who I can't even remember where there wasn't even the reward of a memory to get my dick to twitch in my rocking chair when I am decrepit old fag.
As far as price going to the shitter, this happens with new cryptonite coin issuance anyway since most the coins are minted through the early years and only ~2 Million are minted. So I expect the price to tank more.
>muh community alienated
>muh hurt feelings
Since when is this teddit? I dont care a fuck about feelings. Do you retards think this will be at 2million once the devs are revealed and whitepaper hits the news? Fuckin crybabies
this
Correct, it will not remain at this level, it will be worthless.
ANYONE UNSURE ABOUT THE PREMINE BEING IN TACT PLEASE SEE THIS POST AS CONCRETE PROOF
THST IT IS ALL STILL THERE !
DON'T GET SUCKED IN BY THE FUD . THE OP IS RELYING ON SUGGESTION RATHER THAN FACT .
TAKE A LOOK AT THE SCREENSHOT FROM DERO DISCORD THEN TRY IT FOR YOURSELF TO CONFIRM THE PREMINE IS HAS NOT BEEN TOUCHED
BESIDES IF THE DEVS HAD DUMPED THE PREMINE DO YOU THINK THEY WOULD STILL BE WORKING ON THE PROJECT ?
DON'T GET SUCKED IN BY THIS BS FUD
This
Stop shouting faggot.
Bring good arguments instead.
Who so the premine that we can see hasn't been spent. That doesn't mean they have a shit ton of premine in a wallet somewhere and their would be no way of knowing it.
Try using fact instead of suggestion . I proved your fud about the premine was BS !
Now your saying there "could" be this and "could" be that .
In other words another sad attempt at more fud .
You know what when the actual truth comes out I will be sitting pretty along with anyone else who didn't listen to this suggestive bullshit .
O facts just suggestions
White Paper about PHANTOM protocol was released publicly in Feb 2018. : eprint.iacr.org
> Read the Summary.
>kill yourself fucking retard linkie
That's right, the same people who think LINK is a scam FUD Dero. That's about all you need to know, folks.
>Tradeogre is already in the process of exiting, kek.
Nope, TO just maintains its shit.
This and this.
If you ever felt excited about this project before the price started tanking, DO NOT let OP's FUD get to you. Yes, all his points are based on facts, but none of the evidence points conclusively toward scam, not even closely so. OP and his fellow pajeets are blowing up legitimate concerns with how the Dero team, led on the PR front by a smart but inexperienced community member, has communicated changes to its roadmaps.
Fundamentally, nothing has changed with this project. Foundation will soon be incorporated, dev's identities revealed and WP released. Yes, anyone holding DERO is gambling that they've actually produced the tech they've said they would--but really, how is that any different from any of the other projects you're speculating who are in testnet or even mainnet phases? DERO is built from the ground-up, by anonymous devs, not too dissimilarly from Bitcoin's origins. So fuck off if you can't hold through a couple shitty weeks price-wise. Nothing great comes easy.
Correct ^^^^ goodbye weak hands
deluded linkie, get the fuck out of my thread
That's right, the same people who think LINK is not a scam shills Dero. That's about all you need to know, folks.
Only faggots believe known liars. A fool and his money are soon parted. Kek.
Only brainlet couldn't see how Dero will gonna rape all blockchain based coins.
I believe this all right. Dero is one scam to rule them all. It raped all other coins in this regard.
>July 8th 2018 and Dero is STILL closed source.
Nothing to see here. Move along.
Wrong only BlockDAG and Bulletproof aren't publicly Open Source, yet.
> muh closed source.
I wish they released it ASAP so they could fuck other CryptoNote blockchain, in no time.
Everyone knows that Dero is actually legit, or at least I think that's the case. If you unironically consider it a scam you're beyond saving anyway.
If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.
Wow dero is dumping at exponential speeds. Congrats on this seriously.
Price recovered back to pre idiot minidump price . Nice try to wreck dero with fud . Volume of dump was tiny OP accomplices probably dumped as post went out to try to start stampeed but here we are back up to a dollar hahaha
JUST TO CLEAR UP THE FUD ABOUT PREMINE IN OP POST . HERE LOOK FOR YOUR SELVES CONCRETE PROOF THAT THE PREMINE HAS NOT BEEN TOUCHED .
DERO DEVS ARE HONEST PEOPLE .
MORE THAN I CAN SAY FOR SOME HERE TRYING SUGGESTIVE TECHNIQUES TO TRICK DERO HOLDERS WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE OR FACT .
I would also like to point out that i was on Dero discord when the Jow Forums Dero haters attacked with racist , sexist aggressive offensive foul language .
Yes many were banned for this fact but nobody has ever been banned for giving an opinion or asking a question .
STOP the fud !!!!!
Also thanks to everyone who allowed me to fill my bags a little further with some cheap dero .
Why do you think you know everything and others may not be familiar with the devs and their plan?
Enjoy your bags. We have more to trickle throughout he next week to get a semi decent price. As a bonus and entertainment we will have a few dumps. Catch!
Dero July update . I hope you dont mind me usung your thread to spread the good word
/data/user/0/com.microsoft.office.word/app_EmailAttachmentsdfe971e9-dccb-4572-a85d-a7052fe5ad6d/Dero update - July.9:2018.pdf