Okay guys, I'll try to make this as brief as possible and provide as many links as I can (no pun intended) for you guys to search through and evaluate.
I was on wayback machine, which archives webpages from the past, when I can along a strange page on smartcontract.com's sitemap: web.archive.org/web/20171004082719/http://smartcontract.com:80/link-copy-4 archived here from Oct 4, 2017. If you scroll down, you'll notice they're discussing a different token sale, for something called "Tierion Network" (see pic related), that uses a process called "anchoring" to link data to a blockchain, creating a timestamp that verifies the integrity of a piece of data. Here are more links to their pages:
>tokensale.tierion.com/ - token sale page, looks identical to smartcontract.com's page, down to the % allocations for the token sale >tierion.com/ - main website, with their two products, 'Proof' and 'Chainpoint' (notice how Chainpoint & Chainlink's rebrand look identical) >chainpoint.org/ - Chainpoint's main website >coinmarketcap.com/currencies/tierion/ - their token on CMC
My theory: Chainlink is going to use their oracle network in conjunction with Chainpoint's data-verification network to operate. I think they were originally going to only have a single ICO, but decided against it for some unknown reason.
Think about the implications of this... the "decentralized oracles for centralized data feeds" argument is completely BTFO. We're actually going to have a completely trustless oracle network with completely trustless data flowing through it. Strap. The Fuck. In.
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looks like at least dell is using TNT in boomi which also looks like its using LINK thanks user
Austin Wright
no they're not no mention anywhere on that website so idk what you linked it for
looks like sergey was prepping another scam before it got flack and he rebranded. is there any other info on tierion? sketchy as hell
Anthony Rogers
Nigger I accidentally bought Tieron. I don't what this is a sign of.
Carson Robinson
The moment you solve the oracle problem, which I'm sure chainlink will do, you are essentially moving the goal post and moving the single point of failure further back.
How do you get api into the chainlink network? Sensors that provide api cannot be decentralized to the extent chain link nodes are decentralized. Sure you can have competing companies provide their own sensors and multiple different sensors can send the real world data to the contract, BUT that's not decentralized enough and much more susceptible to a 51% attack.
>Inb4 read the white paper and learn about link tokenomics I already did. This encourages people staking their link in their nodes to find a good data provider so that your nodes retain good reputation. Let say that company x provides consistent correct data. You, as a node runner, are incentivized to get data from company X (see passive income).
Suppose you stake 1000k worth of link in the node as collateral for a high end contract by company X. There is always a possibility of bad actors colluding and perhaps interfere with the development of sensors (let say add a backdoor). And during this critical moment, multiple different sensors provided the incorrect data onto the contract. You just lost the 1000k worth of link you staked as collateral.
Even if the company is financially invested in sending the correct data to the contract, it only takes a few bad actors for this to happen.
Solving the oracle problem is NOT ENOUGH for smart contracts to be adopted by mega corps who literally put billions on the line.
> if bloomberg wants to offer data to a contract he could do it himself without outsourcing node running. So why would it benefit from sabotaging himself? Good point but significantly limits the number of use cases for smartcontracts. And also if every big corp ran their own node, who would use the nodes ran by us neets?
My estimate is 10usd max per token by 2022.
Refute this
Julian Sanders
The pure delusion. You retards actually think you have fundamentally analyized link and are some sort of elite investor. You know about link because its been shilled to fucking death on this shitty board with terrible infographics and extremely far reaching claims with no evidence. I guarantee none of you have actually even tried to use the testnet or have even considered the token economics at play here. The testnet is a peice of trash centralized (it uses one source) API scraper that uploads data into a non self executable smart contract. A fifteen year old could write the code to do this, it tests nothing envsioned in the whitepaper. Now for the token economics 35% of the total supply is in the hands of Sergey himself. The top 100 wallets control 85% of the supply of this coin. Your investment can be quite literally wiped out overnight without a moments notice. Going all into this project is probably one of the stupidest things you can do with your money but retards like you keep lining up thinking you are the next Warren Buffet. Chainlink is so far from a sure thing.
Owen Sanchez
So biz decided by accident to shill Link instead of Tierion, when they're essentially the same money grab based on hyped buzz words. Look at Tierion's price, thats what Link would be priced if it wasn't for the demand coming from biz.
Aaron Diaz
Another +200 comment thread. I feel it
Blake Hughes
I am feeling pretty comfy with my investment, but thanks for the info. Have considered it, and will continue to accumulate and hodl.
Parker Wright
I think we are over estimating guys, i mean how much do you "really know" can you get a node up and running? do you know how all this is going to be actually implemented? have any of you actually tested on ropsten? is linkpool.io safe? idk.
I bought link because i dont see how smart contracts can have any value if they can not communicate with real world data feeds. I do not understand how any of this will end up changing the world if we can not take it beyond tokenization.
but then i read this: >The pure delusion. You retards actually think you have fundamentally analyized link and are some sort of elite investor. You know about link because its been shilled to fucking death on this shitty board with terrible infographics and extremely far reaching claims with no evidence. I guarantee none of you have actually even tried to use the testnet or have even considered the token economics at play here. The testnet is a peice of trash centralized (it uses one source) API scraper that uploads data into a non self executable smart contract. A fifteen year old could write the code to do this, it tests nothing envsioned in the whitepaper. Now for the token economics 35% of the total supply is in the hands of Sergey himself. The top 100 wallets control 85% of the supply of this coin. Your investment can be quite literally wiped out overnight without a moments notice. Going all into this project is probably one of the stupidest things you can do with your money but retards like you keep lining up thinking you are the next Warren Buffet. Chainlink is so far from a sure thing.
and it really brings me back down to earth because i realize im a complete fucking idiot.
Don't be deluded. TNT was a cash grab just like BNT, SNT, KIN, and so many others. In fact, the scariest part is that tierion has foreshadowed exactly what will happen if Link doesn't deliver a perfect mainnet offering. TNT deployed a network with flawed incentives and look what happened. You get one shot at mainnet. It's honestly worth it for the SC team to take full advantage of the head start they have and deploy only when their offering is impeccable, regardless of how many years it takes to get there.
you don't think they've thought of every scenario that can possibly stop big companies from using their service?, you're one brainlet; they're a team of genius', don't be stupid. buy link
LMAO you think this is actually good?? all it does is show that sirgay is deeply involved in ICO scams. fucking LOL
Colton Flores
Folks, this is a disgusting nothing burger. Literally means Chainlink will be ranked 344 by EOY. It's not even in the top 50 with 83 biz threads a day
No, you fools did not find a diamond in the rough
Connor King
This is one piece of fud that sort of gets to me. There are a sizable number of wallets with over a million LINK. It's not hard to imagine a few thousand NEETs suddenly becoming millionaires, but if LINK reached $1000/token then suddenly there would be several dozen more multi-billionaires walking around than before. There's less than 2500 billionaires on the face of the planet. Hard to swallow.
Julian White
I don't get it.
Wyatt Davis
How is that delusion, it's facts, if you had a business would you not think of every possible downfall of your company? Outta here pajeet.
Hunter Jones
you act like everyone will be holding to $1,000. only the strongest will make it
Oliver Reyes
>The top 100 wallets control 85% Not untrue but the vast majority of that are exchange wallets & 35% of it are the 350MM tokens not in circulation... so this is kind of a retarded point. Each exchange wallet probably literally has thousands to tens of thousands of wallets holding LINK.
I can't speak to the rest of your comment but that oversight alone makes you seem retarded and probably not worth investing any time into looking into your other claims.
Asher Bell
Can not wait for the big Link exit exam and then all these poorfags will find another coin to endlessly shill and meme in their delusional minds it’s their claim to fame. I fucking love the scam coin business and the tears it produces
ethereum did this, bitcoin did this, whats the big deal. We are at the cusp of a new revolution, Data is the next oil and we are the people buying the oil fields.
Camden Thomas
These people will sell long before $1,000 happens (if it happens). That will all get redistributed over time. You have to consider that each of these people put at least $140,000 into LINK to begin with. You have to either already be a millionaire to do that, or be completely fucking retarded. If you can picture NEETs turning into millionaires, why can't you picture millionaires turning into billionaires from LINK?
Carson King
buying chainlink now is like buying oil 1yr before cars were invented
I honestly don't care if Link exit scams, I started with 1k oct last year, I now am sitting on a little over 50k, mostly in Link. This is my one chance to make it or forever be a wage cuck. I'm willing to take that chance.
Nathan Torres
No, you would not. See all of the businesses that have failed in the last 20 years. I’m all in on LINK but that’s straight up delusional
David Perry
yup millionaire holding a few million link here
Joshua Sanders
That’s the thing, you’ll still be poor after Sir Gay exit scams cause you wasted your fucking money on a shot coin with delusions of grandeur, Anyone who says hodl and just believe is a poorfag, listen to me and invest your money in real hodls like Gold, Silver, oil commodities, if you would of been doing that instead of buying link, you would be on your way to making it, stay poor forever faggots BUY HIGH!!! SELL LOW!!!!
Mason Mitchell
Sure but I think one dilemma that a brainlet on Jow Forums has come up with has surely been thought about by an entire team of computer engineers potentially facing one of the biggest technological advances to push forward the age of IOT.
Charles Sanders
So are they really linked the Tierion token that's on CMC or was that an abandoned project that had the same name?
Levi Sanchez
>cant refute the FUD so calls the op brainlet >absolute state of biz right now
Ethan Edwards
You have to wonder if LinkFags seriously believe they will actually become Millionaires, I almost feel sorry for them, but then I remember being poor is a choice
Ryder Reyes
i really like this pasta
Dylan Garcia
U think Billy Gates himself owns Link? im thinking he does... when i watch him shit on crypto and bitcoin to normies on cnbc or whatever with warren buffet, he always seems to be hiding something. I bet little Billy is balls deep in Link personally
I refuted the fud? haven't you heard of the hundredth monkey experiment? well I personally don't know chainlink's solution to this but i'm sure they've figured out something. Because fact is they are working with big business, and we know this? whatever stay poor doesn't affect me.
William Brooks
I don't think it'll ever hit 1k.. $10-20 is possible, let's see what happens in the next year or two, i like the project and will continue to hold.
Dude, he's in the "Blockchain good cryptocurrency bad" camp. He's fucking clueless about this shit. According to my calculations there's about a 0% chance he owns a single fucking LINK token.
Angel Davis
He won't be able to afford link in 10 years.
Jaxson Hughes
Holy fuck you’re dumb as balls, I hope you keep investing in the Hail Mary investments. Darwinism at its finest. Wish your way to a millionaire lifestyle pissing all your money away. Screen shot this so I can say I told you so plz plz plz screen shot this
he's saying Tierion is working with Microsoft you retarded brainlet. It says directly in that link that Microsoft and Tierion are working together.
Nolan Young
Already made it, I have real commodities, I don’t believe in a flat earth, the tooth fairy, Easter Bunny, Santa Clause, etc. Difference between us, I have real money, real investments and when your “investment” goes to 0, you’ll have nothing, you’ll disappear from biz forever and continue eating happy meals to save a buck on lunch
The only singularity linkers will have is the day they all neck themselves
Nicholas Roberts
I've literally turned 1k to 100k in less than 3months during the last bull run?, I now have 50k mostly in link and by the next bull run I will have half a million dollars, you mad user?
what coin neither bitcoin or ethereum would have given you that much
James Gutierrez
Why would I be mad? You didn’t make Shit in the last bull run and we both know it, you hold maybe 4K Link and you think that will make you a millionaire or close to it. You’re fucking high, you think you’re fucking Sherlock Holmes and you found the next bitcoin. You’re a poor fag and you’ll always be a poorfag, buy high sell low.... being poor Is a choice
Sebastian Baker
>two autistic russian scammers who keep renaming and rebranding new shitcoins that do nothing and have yet to be used by anyone in any way >good news
Are you fucking retarded? You basically found proof that they just pump out buzzwords and add technicals words and 'token' on the end to some vague description of a blockchain linking network's functioning. Does anyone here even understand technology? I can't be the only O/g/ from this board's inception. None of this makes any fucking sense.
Reading half of these websites and descriptions is like watching 'hackers' talk in fucking movies. Jibberish and buzzwords hacked together to try sounding smart to normies (You).
Jaxson Brown
He’s lying, he just a JUSTED poorfag that is projecting
Austin Roberts
Man, for an user that has no belief in a project you sure are burning through posts in this Link thread. GTFO - you clearly do not have a clue or you are poor with the FUD. Like you running your mouth is going to make a bit of difference to those that believe and invested. Comedy gold.
Cooper King
GET IN HERE youtube.com/watch?v=ntsB2uWYMpY Synth is now actually calling himself the CEO of Skycoin and he is telling the truth about the insider trading SELL SELL SELL
Are you retarded? Coordinated bad actors fud, really? You didn’t read the whitepaper, nigger.
Jaxson Brooks
My brother told me about Link, he’s always been poor, living check to check, tried to shill it to me because I have money. I’m here to tell you brainlets the same thing I told him, stop wasting your money on delusions of grandeur and buy real commodities, you’ll thank me later
Christopher Rivera
Smartcontract was vetted by swift. This is not a fucking scam.
And you are going to neck yourself when your brother has more money than you. Go away, nobody needs your bullshit assistance. You know nothing about the project, pretty obvious.
Levi Parker
This is really bad FUD lmao
Liam Long
Whatever money you can use to invest go 20% gold 60% silver and 20% oil, the market bubble will burst in the next 1-2 years and no money in the stock market or crypto will be safe
Zachary White
Make sure you Periscope it when your delusional trip has ended and you’re on the last straw
Hunter Ortiz
Confirmation. Anybody that cant see the importance of Link to Swift is blind.
Well heres some old screenshots, I bought into the confido ICO with 2 eth (1k) then when it exit scammed i was only left with 5k usd that i'd put into link down from a high of 25k all from confido, then I sold that LINK during Jan bull run and put it all into a shitcoin called artax with a mktcp of 200k and this was the result. you mad?
lol literally what? I can get my transaction evidence from the shitcoin website i sold it all on or my exodus wallet if you like?
Eli Hill
you said you had 100k
thats 22k
Benjamin Lewis
You’re the kind of LinkFag I hope keeps dumping his whole life savings into a fucking money pit, every penny you spend on it makes if that much better, you’re so convinced you’re going to make it based on attempted connections, you don’t have a fucking clue
Michael Perry
i can't wait 2 b rich
David Garcia
LMFAO at blockfolio screen shot, are you that retarded
Eli Jenkins
I own zero link. I have failed. I unieronically work in Macdonalds and spend all my money on rent
Nathan Peterson
I said I had 100k and now I have 50k?, I obviously didn't all into the shitcoin called Artax, that screencap of my 5k wallet was from Nov. over Nov-Jan I held alot of VEN, and also 3.78 Btc alone during Jan was over 18k per btc if you've already forgotten coz ur such a new fag. Plus I'm measuring in AUD if you haven't already realised. 18k USD to AUD is 24k brainlet.
Thomas Sanchez
a good ol fashioned Certificate of Deposit or an employer-matched 401k program, ofc
Zachary Robinson
What should I buy? Thanks for looking out for us. :^) Also kys
this was when I had 5k you fucking brainlet? after confido exit scammed. If I had my old phone I could show you evidence of the entire timeline. Why are you so mad i'm not even that rich?
Aaron Ramirez
Oh, I have a clue and certainly not stupid enough to invest my entire life savings in any particular project. Also smart enough to have read the WP and understand who is involved and who is backing the project as well as what the technology means in the future. You on the other hand, think you are smarter than all the people on this board that invested and like to run your mouth about it. I find you an arrogant asshole - a true no linker, not a Link hodling fudder. I hope your brother kicked your ass on a regular basis.
