Brazil bought 36 Gripen GN back in 2015 (they are ariving now)
Are they good?
Brazil bought 36 Gripen GN back in 2015 (they are ariving now)
probably better than the stuff you have but it is not an air superiority fighter
good for showing it to your neighbors and scaring separatists i guess
Are they better than f-16's?
Fooking 9/11 in the background lmao
the earlier versions maybe not but the e is suppose to be quite nimble, with good avionics it could surpass viper
>"""cheap"""
>unit cost 60mil
F-35 unit cost is 80mil, and it's orders or magnitude better. Every other fighter is hilariously worthless in comparison.
It's a fair fight, nut gripens are lighter and have better radar
The argument was that "It's cheaper overtime" but we know that the truth is that there never was any contest and there's some deal done behind the curtain.
Also the Rafale was sabotaged
unit cost pales in comparison to maintenance
repair cost for the f-35 will kill any country
My cunt went all in. Does the plane seen battle?
your country is afganistan
Why does brazil need fighter jets?
How much are these maintenance costs for the f-35
eh?
>Every other fighter is hilariously worthless in comparison
Compared to the ones the public knows of, yes.
Does Brazil really need strong military?
What's Brazil's potential enemies? I'm sorry I have zero knowledge on this.
>need
well due to limited channels to get the stuff the navy has cut down their procurement numbers because they couldn't budget the needed repair cost
the f-35 is undergoing another 16 some billion dollar refit for block 4 that will finish in 2023 so the supply chain is all kind messed up because pentagon had ordered so many
well we need to garantee our soverignty
if our military was way too weak we would have been attacked
1 bombing mission
Cost of actually flying an F-35 is astronomical, they hope to bring it down to $35,000/hour.
Gripen is a lot cheaper to fly:
“At an estimated $4,700 per hour (2012 USD), the Gripen compares very favorably with the Block 40 / 50 F-16s which are its closest competitor at an estimated $7,000 per hour
stratpost.com
Was it successful? I dont want to ask because my tax money already hurt so much..
sure it's just a bombing run
israel has more combat flying hours in the f35 than anyone
looks like they scaled up some matchbox car wheels
Gripen?
Gripen NG**
shit show
I saw a demonstration of the plane, it could jam your phone when it was near. It is a flying ddos machine. The absolute shit, it was talking in my language. For what does Israel use them for?
it's funny how firstoids always find something to whine about.
Eh?
Apparently we were using it for bombing ISIS in Syria. They claim Russians never detected it but it could be all propaganda piece/sales pitch bullshit.
who knows, they don't discuss it
but it's a multirole so they probably were flying low with it too
It's really generic but I enjoy it
>muh sekrit superprojects
an aircraft can either be fully operational or it can be secret.
Gripen is also trash.
why?
>an aircraft can either be fully operational or it can be secret
He's right. Secret weapons are completely pointless. Deterrence is half the point of a weapon in the first place.
The problem with military shit. No one knows anything.
Says the cunt who doesn’t have any fighters at all.
>Deterrence is half the point of a weapon
>half
That's right shill.
The other half is the CIA assassinating civilians with self driving cars
There is a difference between that kind of shit and fighter jets and you know it.
flight cost and maintenance is ridiculously expensive F 35 project is full of problems most recently the turks may drop out and they make part of the jet
Even Germany considered it too expensive
the Gripen GN is much cheaper and we are buying the jet and the tech, Brasil became part of the project. The plane had never flew when we bought it. We have full access of all the systems, many things of the F35 are american exclusive, you can't touch their sofware and they manteir surleivance to avoid copying.
In resume, F35 is an over exepencive meme, we would bought Rafale or the F18, but Saab cut the better deal actually inviting Embraer to finish developing the plane with then.
Later Russia offered a similar deal with their Su-57, but they were too late.
there isnt
software and they maintain*
Embargo is a big thing to consider, especially if you're not from the same political block with the exporter. We got ourselves embargoed by US our F-16s were almost scrap until we bought Sukhois back then.
In my cunt it was also a discussion. The thing is that the flying ddos machine can do so much. It is better than having old school tanks, you are not going to win a war with tanks that can be picked out by a f35. Not even talking about the drones that America develops.
this and they're fairly extortionate about it. policy is effectively "first hit is free" with buying them
>gripen shit
lmao
Close region combat, multipurpose. Efficient. Depends on pilot that has to be re-trained for it specifically otherwise useless.
No match for a Su 27. You can land that thing on the tarmac with retracted wheels and still will be able to fly, can take of from any landscape unlike these iffy too sensitive tech shit and retards can fly it too.