Well Jow Forums?

The difference is that Zizek is knowledgeable whereas Peterson is a snail oil wannabe mystic.

Nobody is going to win and both of them will look stupid

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>snail oil
snake oil*
lel

Zizek is a pretentious rambling twat. Cant stand the guy.

Clean your lobsters, sunny.

It's hilarious that either of these morons are considered public intellectuals.

it's clear that Zizek is much more intelligent than Peterson, despite being a marxist. Kermit is gonna get BTFO

People take these retards seriously?

I can say with full confidence that you have never read anything Zizek has had published.

Fuck you dad

See

Zizek is anything but pretentious, you fucking stupid teenager.

Why do Americans hate Marxisms so much?

Zizek probably has a better chance at debating unless Peterson's moved away from incorporating fairytails into everything. That being said the debate most likely will just end with both people talking past each other and nothing being agreed on.

>omg i just love this zizek guy! Im such a mature intellectual!

retarded christianity, for sure.

When have they talked about Israel?

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How's Peterson a Zionist?
I've never seen him advocating in favor of Israel/Jews.

Peterson will rely on what he always does: start talking about stuff he knows the other person doesn't know and due to.academic rigurosity won't comment on it, while he will make stupid disprovable claims to post them as fact, leaving his retarded fan base with the feeling he DESTROYED Zizek. But I highly doubt Zizek would fall for that one

I should buy Mein Kampf and go there to get them both to sign it.

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lol what would Christianity have to do with it?

Can't wait until PeterGOD rips this Zizek hack a new one.

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Ah yes I remember those economics lessons I had when I was six

>while he will make stupid disprovable claims to post them as fact
>post
lol

>Jordan "word salada" Peterson

Philosophy is the biggest meme there is

You're gonna have to explain this one to me because I don't really understand. Is he saying that god only exists because you believe he does or what?

>Zizek a zionist
confirmed for having not actually read any zizek

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>I want to sound smart. Please like and retweet
Not too sure on the finer points, but I think that's the gist of what he's trying to get across.

cringe

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SO BANE - AND THAT'S THE BLOODY THING ABOUT BANE - HE REPRESENTS CHAOS, IN FACT, HE'S AN AGENT OF CHAOS, AND IN CONTRAST, WE HAVE CIA, WHO REPRESENTS ORDER, ROUGHLY SPEAKING. BUT CIA, IN HIS BITTER RESENTMENT, IN HIS-HIS POSTMODERN CULTURAL MARXIST IDEOLOGY, HE TRIES TO TAME THE CHAOS - AND THAT'S A BAD IDEA MAN, IT'S LIKE-IT'S LIKE IF YOU TRIED TAMING FIRE, IT'S JUST GOING TO LEAVE YOU BURNT. BUT CIA, HE TRIES ANYWAY, MOTIVATED BY A LUST FOR POWER - AND IT'S LIKE - GOD ITS SO SAD - ITS LIKE YOU'RE NOT A BIG GUY! YOU'RE NOT A BIG GUY, AND NO POSTMODERN RATIONALIZATION WILL CHANGE THAT. THE EVIDENCE IS CLEAR. THE SCIENTIFIC LITERATURE IS EXPLICIT ON THIS MATTER. AND SPEAKING OF TAMING FIRE - WHAT HAPPENS BY THE END OF CIA'S 'EXPERIMENT'? THE FIRE IS NOT TAMED, QUITE THE OPPOSITE, IT'S ACTUALLY RISING. AND THIS DEMONSTRATES EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED IN THE 20TH CENTURY. AND IT'S LIKE SOLZHENITSYN WRITES IN THE GULAG ARCHIPELAGO - THE BLOODY MARXISTS ATTEMPTED TO QUELL FIRE, BUT IN DOING SO THEY MERELY FUELED IT. AND WELL ACTUALLY, THEY DID QUITE A BIT MORE. YOU CAN'T PRETEND TO BE A BIG GUY IF YOU'RE NOT. WE TRIED THAT EXPERIMENT IN THE 20TH CENTURY, AND IT WAS A BAD IDEA MAN! AND IT. IS. NOT. A. ROUTE. YOU. WANT. TO. GO. DOWN.

he says that "God" is the final answer to the question of the beginning of everything. when humans are unable to find the answer in the earthly realm "God" is the answer

I hope somebody just stomps pete in an argument. dude is so smug and has seemed to develop an opinion on every topic in existence (isn't he a psychology professor, lmao)? I don't care who it is, but someone needs to humble him a bit

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kek Always makes me laff

Explain that statement in detail, at least 2000 characters.

Go on.

How so? If it would be so easy, marxism wouldn't be a thing in social studies

Sounds like a cop out to me. Granted finding out happened before the big bang is a pretty tall order in itself but it's all up in the air still, might as well keep looking into it. Whatever the real beginning of the universe is, it's probably more boring than god.

>Violence
More like skating ring

i think part of this way of thinking about the "divine" is that it changes with how much knowledge humans have. when our knowledge of the universe stops we substitute it with "God"

he doesn't even seem to know the definition of marxism seemingly from his constant conflation of marxism and postmodernism. he seems to have based his entire thesis on 2 books, one bad book on 'postmodernism' by steven hicks and the gulag archipelago, it's quite cringey, he should stick to jung

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>Alex Jones goes back to JRE with Eddie Bravo
>Zizek vs Peterson incoming

we live in the absolutely best period in philosophy

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you know what "religion is the opium of the people" means. it's about maintaining the system of self-exploitation.

doesn't he tell people how to eat now too?

>Alex Jones
>Zizek
>best time for philosophy

God wept.

who cares

ok but I don't get how that relates to hate marxism?

Do you truly believe marxism would set people free? Or the opposite?

I'm having difficulty understand what message exactly you're trying to convey.

He has said that Holocaust® happened as they teach us in Hollywood.

Amazing how many disgusting commies there are on the board. I sure hope you lot are being ironic.

>two marxists fling shit at each other
maybe
hopefully it will be recorded

cold war boomers

Commie subhumans are all Jews

t. seething modernist

there are interdimensional aliens controlling you mind, look into it

it certainly made hundreds upon hundreds of millions free-er in china, not least in the USSR and PRC it guaranteed equal rights for men and women. It was a pretty massive step forward from the semi/full feudalism the societies were before, they developed in a few decades to levels it took the west centuries to get to

Cringe grow up you tool

jordanbpeterson.com/psychology/on-the-so-called-jewish-question/

youtube.com/watch?v=JQHH6o9ual8

t. Leftypol

define "freedom"

>it's da leftypol boogeyman!

The freedom of social mobility and the ability to make it rich

Leftypol is subverting this board, blacked spam, tranny shit, gayposting. All their doing. Their board owner is a tranny too

At what cost did it make those people "free-er"?
At what cost did it achieve "equality"?
Looking at Russia and PRC nowadays paints it as bleak.

thanks for the links, i'll get to reading it

well, just explain to me why Christianity leads to hating Marxism. Many people hate it without being religious.

He is right though.

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at what cost? well i guess if you were a landlord they took your land and distributed it amongst the poor, so sucks for them but they shouldn't have been parasites in the first place so i dont care, they also fucked up the kuomintang and booted taiwan off the UN security council. look at that fucking gradient for life expactancy

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Being able to make your own decisions without anyone dictating what you can and cannot do. Getting to keep what you earn without anyone taking your property.

Those in the gulags and chinese political prisoners sure were free :^)

If only there were examples of non-Western countries becoming free rapidly without communism.. Oh wait, how about Japan, South Korea, Taiwan?

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Both are shit.

>Peterson is a surrogate father for weak western men (and not a good one)
>Zizek is a comedian who writes books

Malcolm X would dismantle them both

This actually sounds like it could be fun

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don't care
fuck off

you need to seek help

south korea and taiwan were both run under US backed military dictatorships until very recently, look up the white terror, what is it with US puppet states and some abstract idea of unqualified 'freedom' that somehow comes out of market liberalisation. I dislike china and the USSR, but the idea that they didn't massively improve under their socialist rule is ahistorical

>Oh wait, how about Japan, South Korea, Taiwan?
Being pets of stronger economies works pretty well indeed, but didn't it turn out bad for you guys when Americans told you to cease the proctionism and economic nationalism in the 1970s?

along with christianity, capitalism continues to exploit the life of reality with one identical code (symbolic capital), promising future happiness that will never come, which is also a kind of universal religion. christianity and capitalism have that in common and people still use each other harmoniously.
it is called liberty, not freedom.

He drifts around to whatever he can fleece a bunch of retarded alt right kids for patreon bucks from next.

literally who?

slovenian philosopher, he is pretty cool

>it is called liberty, not freedom.
They are interchangeable terms.

>canadian intellectuals

zizek is what happens if reddit and Jow Forums had a child

china improved at a snails pace until """socialism""" with """"""chinese"""""" """""""""""""""""characteristics""""""""""""""""" started

waht about the other guy

liberty is a stable one that society recognizes while freedom is accompanied by a social struggle because it conflicts with the existing order. what you said is already normally acceptable in your society.

>zizek is what happens if reddit and Jow Forums had a child
so, Jow Forums?

see sorry for

psychologist from canada, he tells people without a father figure to clean

gotta make money,

not particularly, the period from the end of the civil war to the cultural revoltion saw large imrpovements in the average standard of living by almost any measure, maybe at the period right after maos death. inequality has grown massively since the mark reforms, but the growth rate has been impressive, now it's starting to slow down it will probably get worse, and they'll probably have a massive financial crisis soon what with the housing bubble, neoliberalism is a bad system

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>and they'll probably have a massive financial crisis soon what with the housing bubble
they've never once gone through a recession, if anything bursts it'll be the rest of the world's investments paying for it. china will just fudge their way out of it

imagine if instead of a cute asian girl marie kondo was a middle aged canadian man

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