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Who was in the wrong here?
Evan Sanders
Jason Gutierrez
BCH is the real Bitcoin as set forth by Satoshi himself, but it’s backed almost entirely by scammers, so I don’t know what to think.
Brandon Gonzalez
BTC did absolutely everything wrong.
BCH did wrong in putting up with bullshit for two years. Should have forked in 2015-2016 and nobody would even remember BTC.
Instead miners pussied out like the chink pusibois they are, and didn't act until it was too late.
Not it will take more than tx throughput to beat BTC. Smart contracts and ecosystem advancements are coming up, but it would have been a much easier battle.
Zachary Perez
biggerblocks
Xavier Baker
Implying blockstream and core aren't deceptive.
Carter Ross
Satoshi (CSW) is with Bitcoin (BCH). Bitcoin (BTC) is controlled by one for profit company (BlockStream) whereas Bitcoin (BCH) development is decentralized with multiple big teams. The only purpose of Bitcoin (BTC) is to make money for BlockStream (thus small blocks so that transactions are pushed to BlockStream propriety layers). Bitcoin (BCH) just aims to fill Satoshi's vision..
Lucas Cooper
I hate that you have to pick a side rather than state the obvious.
BTC needs larger blocks AND second layer solutions
Jeremiah Miller
Can someone answer my question?
BTC got tamed by the swap with futures and shit.
When the flippening has happened bitcoin is free again.
I think it's very unlikely that the swamp will make a new futures for BCH that's why I think they try to prevent the flippening to let BTC tamed.
How many years will the flippening throw us back?
Asher Wright
>who was is the wrong?
Does it fucking matter? History is written by the victor, in this case that is bitcoin.
Regardless, bigger blocks is objectively the inferior approach.
Brody Cooper
Your question doesn't make sense.
Landon Anderson
the people who "tamed" bitcoin are the same people who pumped it up
do you really think mega whales trust scamming fuckers like ver wright and wu?
bch is going nowhere
Isaiah Sanders
both are shit because bigger blocks are bad. core will survive because he is daddy coin.
Jonathan Walker
bcash is objectively better tech, but i'll never invest in something produced by such a shady scammy team
Elijah Baker
You'll be forced to invest when it becomes the most valuable coin
Isaac Miller
What team? There is no shady team or are you speaking about Blockstream?
Adam Phillips
Dunno how do alts usually do when compared to bitcoin
Luis Hughes
blockstream was created by early bitcoin developers. Bitcoin cash was created by early bitcoin investors. --see the difference?
bitcoin has a solid well known team of developers. bitcoin cash has one frenchy boi and solid well known team of shills. -- see the difference?
AXA venture capital has invested in blockstream (a company created by early bitcoin developers). SBI crypto has invested in bitcoin cash mining equipment and BCH/XRP exclusive exchange. -- see the difference?
every single "current" bitcoin developer is anti- bigger blocks (at least not yet). an offshore gambling mogul, a proven fraud professor, a mouth piece, a mining monopoly, and one former fallen-from-grace bitcoin developer support bigger blocks right now. -- see the difference?
Wyatt Long
bcash is just the chinks having a tantrum when the community made it clear they don't want any more chink shit in bitcoin.
literally indefensible.
Evan Powell
bcash community is literally cancer.
Nolan Moore
>blockstream was created by early bitcoin developers
Blockstream was created by some of the later bitcoin developers, who kicked out the early bitcoin developers.
>BCH
early devs and early investors
Chase Thompson
>early bitcoin investors
most early adopters to bitcoin want nothing to do with bcash though. the only people that do, are ones with direct influence over it,because that's all bcash is, an attempt to get more control over the coin and take it away from the community.
if ver didn't think he had influene in bcash, he wouldn't go near it (hint: he doesn't, wu has it all). wright is just your average conman jumping on divisive topics trying to get support, just playing the political game.
wu is the only person that has anything to gain directly from bcash, which is why it (accidently) broke satoshi's difficulty algorithm so bitmain could abuse mining it for even more profit.
anyone that unironically thinks bcash has even a remote chance at getting close to bitcoin is completely and utterly chink'd
Christopher Robinson
wow you've really got taken for a ride, huh?
bcash has nobody, and blockstream is literally irrelevent when it comes to bitcoin, as the community showed. the minute the chinks, or anybody else does something clearly not in bitcoin's interest, the community tells them to get fucked.
its only a matter of time before blockstream tries the same as the chinks, and yet bitcoin will forever keep on being bitcoin.
Luis Flores
>blockstream is literally irrelevent when it comes to bitcoin
Xavier Bailey
>reddit spacing
>copy+paste shill posts from Jow Forumsbitcoin
> taken for a ride
No faggot, I've been mining this shit since 2013 and I've followed all the news this half a decade.
BTC is literally running on its former glory, which is fading away and moving into BCH. If the names and tickers were reversed, core would be dead. Normies still think BTC is a currency.
Bitcoin cash has Ver, Wu, Armstrong - literally the three biggest BTC entrepreneurs.
It also has Ayre, nChain and Jansens who are also amongst the richest billionaires in crypto.
Blockstream completely controls btc, and btc has next to no community. Only a greek fag who never bothered to buy bitcoin.
Cooper Young
>Blockstream was created by some of the later bitcoin developers, who kicked out the early bitcoin developers.
This is False. I can give you a history lesson if you want. Gavin excluded himself from the repo back in 2014, he gave it to Wlad. He booted himself. you have no idea what you are talking about Junior. The current main core devs were all selected by Gavin. You are so fucking stupid my eyes hurt. just stfu now.
>early devs
Amaury Sechet was writing spyware for (((Facebook))) up until ta couple of years ago. You really are dumb.
Levi James
>which is fading away and moving into BCH
this is false.
BCH market share has dropped 2% in the past two months. down to 4% from 6%. BTC market share has gained 7% in same time frame. You are a lying shill. you fucking disgust me. don't cry for help when you fucking kill yourself.
Alexander Foster
This 100%
It feels weird to know that CSW is Satoshi before everyone else. There's a huge opportunity to make money from this info, but I'm not quite sure how yet. The flippening will happen, the only questions are when will people realize the advantages BCH has over BTC, and when will the market stop being irrational
Brody Thompson
“Just make the blocks bigger”
Andrew Rogers
>Gavin excluded himself from the repo back in 2014, he gave it to Wlad
Gavin's rights were revoked after his post about Craig Wright under the excuse that he was "hacked". When it turned out he wasn't - nothing was restored.
>He booted himself
Thanks for introducing me to the newest levels of Jow Forumsbitcoin bullshittery
>The current main core devs were all selected by Gavin
Gavin selected Mike Hearn (mocked for his predictions in 2015, 100% accuracy in prediction turnout, kicked from the team), Jeff Garzik (another semi-big blocker) and a fat neckbeard whose selection Gavin named "one of the biggest mistakes of his life".
>Amaury Sechet
as if he's the only dev. You basically admitted Gavin was the first, he's in BCH now. Not as a dev, but he's still a researcher, and Graphene is being implemented by Bitcoin Unlimited (who do not exist according to Jow Forumsbitcoin, kek)
Liam Thompson
Satohi is Carlos Matos. Bean Cash (BCH) is the real Bitcoin and will solve the oracle problem in the future.
Liam Richardson
Read "The Satoshi affair" yesterday.
Always been a big blocker but always thought CSW is a fraud. That book weirded me out for good...
Nathaniel Evans
shut up nigger
Kayden Taylor
Interesting, I'll take a read
Adam Anderson
>wright is just your average conman
Funny how he lnows Bitcoin better than anyone else in the world. Last example would be Bitcoin script Turing completeness. Literally no one else had a fucking clue..
Jaxon Baker
archive.is
full edition :]
Ethan Ramirez
BTC will most likely die, can take a long time though.
it was tried:
en.wikipedia.org
we're very lucky that this time more people got on board. BCH was the last shot to preserve bitcoin before the point of no return.
Mason Martinez
people are escaping into the safe haven that they think BTC is during the market crash, these people are "investors" that have no clue about what's actually going on. would have been absolutely astonishing if people didn't escape into the oldest crypto during hard times.
Carter Long
Bitcoin XT wasn't a fork but node software, completely different thing
Eli Powell
Literally noone does their research. It's all out there. You can really tell if someone is a LARPer/late adopter when they try to mansplain CSW and the cryptography/security culture of the times--- hint, it's a lot more complicated to those guys than just "no key signing no Satoshi." Many actual cryptographers have said that Craig did not only the right but smart thing.
Liam Peterson
BTC is bottlenecking the base protocol so any layer built on top will still be fucked by the 1mb block limit
Chase Brown
wrong, it changed the block size limit. check this out:
reddit.com
>Miner: "We agree the block size should be raised and we agree Core is not going to do so."
>Me: "Great! So when will you start running XT?"
Oliver Cook
i think Craig was blackmailed into doing what he did. andresen did talk about how sad Craig was when he showed the proof. then the situation resolved (maybe he could kill the blackmailer or something) so Craig could go on and try to provide as shitty proof as possible so that people think he's a fraud and therefore he could go back to being anonymous Satoshi once again
until the truth is out there i just enjoy the mystery
Isaiah Young
It was node software, not a fork like BCH. For Bitcoin (BTC) there is just one node software (Bitcoin Core), for Bitcoin (BCH) there are many competing clients like Bitcoin ABC, Bitcoin Unlimited and Bitcoin XT. Funny fact, Bitcoin XT was actually overtaking Bitcoin Core until suddenly entire regions were Bitcoin XT nodes were licated were ddossed to death. It's basically a know fact that Crypto Judas Adam Back was behind the attack
Gavin Collins
They both kinda suck to be honest. Lightning network was supposed to revolutionize BTC but it barely works. BCH seems like a clone with a temporary bandaid. Why not just use LTC? I don't see any point to BCH.
Noah Gomez
>LTC
Founder sold his bags and no one Trusts this coin. I rather Pay with Vertcoin
Sebastian Green
if XT accepted larger blocks than 1 MB how was it not a fork? these blocks would not be accepted as valid by non XT nodes and then the network would fork.
do you have some link about that Adam Back accusation? i assume it was never proven and just a most-likely-theory?
Samuel Jones
hahahahahahahahaha lmao. hint - it won't. do cashies actually think this? p.s. both bitcoin and bcash are garbage
Bentley Gonzalez
fuck blockstream, fuck axa, fuck bilderbergs, fuck digital currency group. gas them all.
Ryan Martin
bcash cultist coping mechanism #624
>engage
Anthony Bailey
bcashers are unironically the flat earthers of crypto, they will believe anything
Benjamin Gray
It sounds like you're describing the Bitcoin core community
Charles Gonzalez
It really is all out there, the only reason I know about it, since I just got into crypto this year, is because I was at the right place and the right time. Gotta see through the BS as well, but it's luck I even got into crypto in the first place.
Sometimes wasting your life on internet forums can really pay off. *Cough cough* looking at you LINK
Austin Ross
>what is Bitcoin Knots
>what is BTCD
>what is Bitcore
>what is Bcoin
>what is Gocoin
>what is Libbitcoin
I could go on. Just because most of the people (willingly) choose to run Core software, it doesn't mean there are many other several teams developing alterantive Bitcoin clients, which people are free to use.
You can go on and continue your useless shitposting while thinking it has impact on the fact you are holding, and will continue to hold, a shitcoin.
Hunter Anderson
>hurrdurr liquid sidechains
youtube.com
"we're not going to develop for free forever"
fucking morons
Jaxon Thompson
>bitcoin Oracles
>no one else had a clue
Lincoln Campbell
>according to Jow Forumsbitcoin
Holy shit. Imagine that... a place where they know what's going down with bitcoin. my mind is blown! It makes sense thogh... I mean, I would hope a place called "r/bitcoin" would know more about ... wait for it... bitcoin, than an Microsoft Paint tutorial board for autistic vacuum tubes does.
Blake Lee
>He thinks Jow Forumsbitcoin is not a cesspool of 2017 newfags. He's completely unaware that every early adopter is banned on there
Jack Campbell
LTC is actually accepted as payment. Who the fuck even knows about Vertcoin lol.
Alexander Price
they were all false
Jose Parker
Hal Finney is Satoshi. He received the first bitcoin. If you created this new system of money, wouldn't you test it out on yourself. Plus with bitcoin, you could make new wallets every time you send a transaction. Craig Wright and Dave Kleiman were just early miners. Hal and Nick Szabo ftw/
Leo Diaz
Both. Would be better if it never happened.
Jace Taylor
I wouldn't know the intimates that well... I honestly just visited reddit the first time a few months ago. I'm not going to front like an oldfag neither. I first visited Jow Forums like 9-10 years ago. saw it mentioned on consumption junction or encyclopedia dramatica. I just lurked a few time... but, mostly I spent time on ICMag learning how to grow ROLS/No Till organic cannabis. I've been into bitcoin ever since though. can't remember the date but, i bought my fist bitcoins for a donation to deep bass 9. this was before Demonoid went down the first time. naw man...
pic related: Cannabiogen's Peyote Purple grow in 100% not-till ROLS.
Angel Stewart
bcash is retarded
but bcore is even more retarded and (((kikestream)))
Nathaniel Foster
Did I hear "exit scam"?
exitscam.me