I don't think America should waste our resources intervening in this shithole

I don't think America should waste our resources intervening in this shithole.

Seriously who cares? It's just another Mexican shithole that can't govern themselves. Why go through the trouble of getting involved unless we actually get to annex them

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stupid and fat american

Nobody wishes for you to get involved silly mutt

>another Mexican shithole
lol

Plenty of seething retards on this board and in our government seem to want us to.

>get to annex
can't we learn from our European breathren. When you annex a country, all of a sudden their citizens feel they have a right to visit the host country.

England and Pakistan for example.

But this logic is what we used for the middle east and obviously it was the wrong thing to do. We should have annexed Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria after our wars their. Forced American culture and let out companies go wild in their borders.

So maybe the correct thing to do with Venezuela is full assimilation. Go in there, force English education in schools, let out companies go wild with buying up land and providing jobs. Build protestant churches, the whole shebang. And force put Venezuela on a pathway to limited statehood until they meet the requirements.

This is probably the best thing to do. We can't just keep destabilizing places. We need to do to Venezuela what we should have done to Mexico.

They have the biggest proven oil reserves in the world.

>Mexican

Come on user, we know you meant Latin American but shit, at least use the proper designation instead of “Mexican = Any Spanish country” type ignorance

Nobody wants that you retard, in fact all the world hates you because you try to be the "global police".

We will fully incorporated them just like Alaska and Hawaii

syria is not the kind of country that can be invaded you fat pig

Sounds like a good idea. We all know how good it is in countries that the US has intervened in before

Your country would be a better place if it was part of the USA, which it could have easily had been after our war with you. It's time to globalize and put Venezuela on a pathway to statehood.

Mutt education is amazing

ok maybe no Syria, but Afghanistan and Iraq were ours and we could have made them penial colonies and then states. We didn't have the spine to do it.

It's time we do it to Venezuela. Force them to learn English.

This. But we should break up Texas so the senate doesn't get pushed out of balance.

You wish you had the strength of our country.

This.

We could've stamped out repressive Spanish culture and made them English speaking and free.

We would've also prevented further muttification by turning the Indian areas into reservations

Republitards are trying to beat the drums of war right now and the media is buying it, seems eerily similar to the lead up to the Iraq War.

If you say so

venezuela is full of lefties tho

Hence why we split Texas.

Well, how else will you justify your millitary-industial complex? The US needs war and creates war

Globalization is literally inevitable. The question is, do we want the capital being in Washington DC or Beijing.

Thats your justification for involving yourself in the internal affairs of sovereign states? Bring them war, terror and misery. That will win them over to the right side.

I'd like to think we've learned from our mistakes. I mean we're only like a 300 year old country forced to rule the world for half a century. We were bound to fuck it up.

Obviously at this point. There is no just leaving Venzeula alone. We messed it up, I get that. And I think the way to fix it is by pathway to statehood. Don't you agree?

You have a poor understanding of how the world works. The US cannot survive without it being the reserve currency and the defacto currency in oil trading. Take that away, and we can no longer support our national debt

The US never learns, cause the goal is to keep alive the massive millitary you have and to further your own interests in the region. Its not to improve anything for the people living there. You did the same in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria. Korea is divided, Vietnam you lost, and the last 3 has created terror like never before, with most of those people hating your nation. Why do think this time it will be better? Why do you think people would accept a foreign army coming in and taking control away from the people that lives there and up until that point were free?

Free in the sense that power is atleast within their own borders*

Freeing them was never the point, it's to secure the oil market there

And the venezualen people will just roll over and what ever you wish them to do? Like what happend in the middle east?

what a retarded post

like i said. We're only a 300 year old country, forced to rule the world after Europe blew itself up.

They'll welcome us with open arms as we install a pro US leader because anybody is better than Maduro. Venezuelans are begging for us to intervene

You’re right. Japan is doing quite well, all things considered.

>Its okay to invade others and create misery because we are a young nation
Yikes

Yikes, and you have managed to replicate that again. As we all can see in the middle east

No, it's okay to invade others when they don't allign with us. There is no good or bad guy in geopolitics, just chess players. Morality doesn't exist in geopolitics, but some will pretend that their actions are moral to appease citizens

WIll you be the first to sign up then? The venezualen people are screaming for you to come, just as they did in Vietnam

Why would I have to sign up?

You are no better than China if thats your way of making nations allign with you

Americans consume resources like if they were black holes. Obviously if they want to keep their 'American way of life' they NEED to provoke wars, they need the death of many "brown fellas".

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>Venezuelans are begging for us to intervene
You are advocating to intervene, should you not stand by your words? Be a part of the change you wish to see, boots on the frontline dying for your masters

Nobody is better than anybody else, Germany plays nice with it's neighbors because it's the most beneficial thing for them to do, not because they're morally superior.

Tell that to that fat orange mother fucker who said he wasn't in the business of regime change

Why dont you let China rule then? If you or the EU is not better than them should we not let them take over so the US dont have to deal with this shit anymore?

The military doesn't need more people, we already have a massive military
Our economy would instantly implode if we didn't fight in oil producing countries. Almost all of the world's oil is traded in US dollars

>Wants war but wont fight in the war
>Our economy would instantly implode if we didn't fight in oil producing countries. Almost all of the world's oil is traded in US dollars
Mutt education at work

>t. doesn't know what the petrodollar is

Ofc mutt man, you are right. Lets invade the country in the region that has large investments from China and see how well they responds. We all know, war only brings peace and prosperity and never leads to unforseen consequences

It's a real thing. Countries like Saudi Arabia sell their oil in dollars, which means that their economy is directly pegged to the value of the dollar, and the price of oil per barrel is directly pegged to the dollar. If the dollar were to lose value, that means devastation to the oil producing countries as their profits take a hit. This means that the US has incredible leverage over the world because countries have very good incentives in keeping the US dollar healthy and valuable.

The Venezuelan government isn't representative of it's people. Venezuela is a victim of hyperinflation, nobody there can afford basic necessities because wages can't keep up with the inflation rate and all of their savings have been made worthless so they're stuck in Venezuela. Maduro is happy to see the inflation rise because it doesn't affect him personally. Venezuelans fucking despise him and are on the verge of civil war. Intervening and overthrowing Maduro wouldn't be an unpopular thing among Venezuelans

And this gives you the right to do as you please to whoever you wish ?

so, burgers, how much are you going to charge for the liberation of Venezuela? I don't think you'll do it for free

This sounds very familiar, when have we heard this story before I wonder?

>right
Stop putting emotions in geopolitics. There's no right or wrong.

Russians?

A trade deal with Venezuela would be enough I reckon

they have one of the biggest oil reserves in the world.
thats why you should just invade them

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I don't know desu

Its not about emotions, its about letting countries sort themselves out without having the US knock down their door and fucking everything up in the name of "peace"

No, it's in our best interest to intervene. It keeps my gas cheap.

Ofc you dont, US only allows to teach history in their favor. Hope its not Norways turn for a intervention after Venezuela, you never know and dont forget, I should be happy if it is

>Cheap gas
America will be the end of the world

>Seriously who cares?
A failed state generates a giant tidal wave of refugees, you 80 IQ nigger. You think that small caravan of 1000-2000 Hondurans was bad? Just wait.