Women

Women's clothing are shit and nobody but slags use makeup, the rest is just hygiene.

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>Like what? Being a stripper?
Most jobs actually, it's called "looking professional".

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Pffft, most women lack proper uniform manners.

How is a woman not shaving her legs or mustache unhygienic but a man not shaving his legs or mustache hygienic?

Shaving is personal hygiene, that's what I said.

haven't you heard? Women do all of that for themselves, for them to feel pretty, not for us to look at them. If they love complicated stuff, that's on them.

>clothing modelled after male clothing
>no body hair in sight so no requirement to shave it
Not sure what point you're trying to make with this picture. Nothing here seems to relate to the OP, besides maybe make-up.

And men are expected to "look professional" as well, which means taking care of their hair and facial hair. There are equal requirements in that regard to what women face.

That's why it's self sustaining.

If I had a gf I would try to get her to stop shaving her body hair, turns me on 2bh

But for men is not mandatory, men just need to shower, shave and comb hair to look socially acceptable. Women need to do a lot more.

In the future everyone will be bald and hairless

I don't know about mexico but make up isn't obligatory in the work place, except maybe in yankland.

It's more punishing on women. Especially since a lot of this shit is vague compared to men where it's more concrete. Like for black woman hair stuff is a minefield.

Leg hair is a turn off but the rest I would be fine with.

>And men are expected to "look professional" as well, which means taking care of their hair and facial hair. There are equal requirements in that regard to what women face.
Men need less requirements. We can wake up one hour before job, shower, shave, comb hair and wear presentable clothes and that's it. Women need to do a lot more.

It's 2019. Black women could probably just post on Twitter that their "racist" employer had told them their natural hair was unacceptable and the progressivist mob there would start a shitstorm and force the company into backing down and letting the KWEEN keep her afro.

And women need to...?

>Women need to do a lot more.
No they don't. Just swap out shaving for putting on make-up, and there's no difference. In any case, I'm not aware of any case where a company has fired or refused to employ a woman for not wearing make-up.

Why would a woman wear a tiny mini skirt? Because it's confortable? Because it's fresh? No! To attract men!

That’s very sexist to say.

Not all black women live in the US, in the Dominican Republic natural afro hair is totally unacceptable, not only in jobs but everywhere.

Shave, wear high heels, make up, etc, etc, etc.

Women who already have men continue to dress in skimpy clothing though. This actually creates a lot of friction in many relationships where the bf is uncomfortable with his gf showing off so much skin but she refuses to change the way she dresses.

>wear high heels
so... put on shoes? god forbid!

>etc, etc, etc.
"the list could go on"
lmao

>yes but what about
We can talk about Saudi Arabia if you like where women don't have to worry about their hair because they don't work, and they don't have to worry about make-up either because they wear burkas.

In a country like America where the temperature is less than 20 degrees Celcius, I don't see the comforting factor in wearing a mini skirt. But who cares? I don't mind seeing a sweet ass.

One of the more surprising things I learned as I met more and more people is that men actually care more about women's grooming and fashion than even women seem to.

Putting on makeup requires far more work, time and investment than shaving. And part of a professional appearance for women is to wear makeup.

>Putting on makeup requires far more work, time and investment than shaving.
It only requires as much work as the woman wants to spend on it. Makeup doesn't have to take 5 hours. It also comes with no risk of cutting yourself or getting razor burn.

>Women who already have men continue to dress in skimpy clothing though. This actually creates a lot of friction in many relationships where the bf is uncomfortable with his gf showing off so much skin but she refuses to change the way she dresses.
So? Women still want to attract her couple and more men.
>so... put on shoes? god forbid!
The case here is that women need to do all that stuff not only because of job requirements, but also because of social norms. The point of this thread is to look if social norms imposed on women are fair. I'm a man and I've never shaved my ass, balls, armpits, legs or arms, probably never going to do that and people don't expect me to do that either.
>"the list could go on"
>lmao
The etceteras are because I already Made a list in the first post

No, it really doesn't. Even a man carefully shaving does not take as long as a woman would need to put on makeup. Also way to dodge that it also takes more work and investment to wear makeup than it does to shave.

We could talk about Saudi Arabia Indeed, this is an international board and the experience of middle class white women in the west is not more important than others.

As a homosexual myself I still find unkept women to be repulsive

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That woman isn't even unkempt aside from having armpit hair.

>Leg hair is a turn off

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Yes, that's a social norm, women must shave to not be repulsive. But men with hairy armpits are fine, normal and in some cases DESIRABLE.

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They do it themselves.
And no, it's not for men. Men don't care that much about it, a lot prefer shaven arm pits and a shaven or maintained garden, but little would demand their girl to do that.
It's other women. They will gossip, bad talk, block you out the social group etc. That's why they do all those things.

A girl, that usually wears make-up, can go to work without make-up and guy would maybe notice it, give a compliment on their natural look or just ignore this fact completely.
The female co-workers would just destroy her.

To be considered an attractive partner
Men need to:
-work out
-look decent at the very least
-earn well
-probably also have high education
Most of these aren't instantaneous and you need to work hard for them over a long period of time and for education you can go into debt and earning enough money and working out needs to be maintained.
Women need to:
-be decent looking
-apply makeup
-not cheat(even that's acceptable nowadays because of cucks/ people who say "cheating makes our relationship stronger once we overcome it")

Ummm yeah it's a little bit unfair...

Don't be delusional, women need to work out and have education/money too these days (unless she's a 10/10, but few women are).

>I'm gay
stopped reading there kill yourself and go to hell

>One of the more surprising things I learned as I met more and more people is that men actually care more about women's grooming and fashion than even women seem to.
I sometimes give that impression, but that's only because I had an ex that didn't do jack shit, any makeup, any thought on clothes (coupled with naturally bad taste) while I - the dirty man - spent a few hours picking and ironing best clothes, using some scents, etc. Nothing gay tier pedantic but just normal care of what girl might want a guy she's on a date with to look.

In the end, she was impressed, I broke up because I wasn't taken seriously.

do you claim that men can go without grooming and be fine with it in a professional setting?

> he doesn't know about female hypergamy.

How about we just kill two birds with one stone and prevent women from entering the workplace?

Redpilled

>shaving pussy and ass
No, women definitely shouldn't do that. No respectable woman should
>tight clothes, high heels, bikinis
See above
>makeup
No makeup is ideal, but a bit is okay. Men cannot cover up their imperfections, women can.

>women need to work out and have education/money too
couldn't be more wrong

Pinche cabron

my Fiance was a virgin when I met her (inb4 disbelieving incels, we were both 16) and she's never shaved her pussy once in her life and her leg hair is transparent so she doesn't bother shaving it

Feels masterace enjoying a woman's body as god intended it to be

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Hairy pubes just feel wholesome desu, especially on a virgin like that

Without that shit women are really ugly, so women do this of their own accord

They are free to not do it
And im free to prefer women who continue doing it

Pretty much this
Supply and demand
Unless theres a more atractive alternative i take what i can get.

>No, women definitely shouldn't do that. No respectable woman should

lol if you you have a fur suit down their they kinda have to. There's difference between trimmed/maintained/shaved pubic area and being a forest. Ass hair is also another issue for both men and women.

>Black women could probably just post on Twitter that their "racist" employer had told them their natural hair was unacceptable and the progressivist mob there would start a shitstorm and force the company into backing down and letting the KWEEN keep her afro.

user the hate/stigma against Afro-textured hair is pervasive as fuck in society. the stigma is older then MANY nations existence on Earth. Only now has it loosened up in recent years.