Why is Russia so poor and undeveloped despite of owning such a huge landmass and lot of natural resources?

>Who knew that would happen when you kill all the smart people...
Communists knew
They perfectly knew what they were doing

*insert excuses*

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resource_curse

>russia is undeveloped
but it has one of the most developed military industry in the world
its simply landlocked, all russian ports are frozen 11 out of 12 months in a year, and danish and turkish straits block russian trade (sanctions)

if global warming happens, it will unfreeze the russians ports and also boost arctic agriculture too so they will probably become the best trade/wealth country as well as the best space industry, military industry, landmass, resources, scientific achievements, all that stuff

nato toilet cleaners will be selling boypussi to the russians all over again

Tbqh it was very similar in Poland, but we somehow have better situation than Russia today

>Inb4 EU

We don't have even 1/10 of economic potential Russia has.

Because most of russians are constantly brainwashed during whole their life to serve. Only difference that is before its be for being "stronk" and "relevent" country, now its only to fill putins pool with moneys for all of his colledge friends and churkas. But now with internets more and more people WOKE up and so maybe after mr poo dies or do something REALLY stupid there is hope for russia to be free and kinda rich, at least at polen tier.

>muh military
>russian puppet
Nobody needs mountains of tanks Bojan

You've made this thread probably a dozen centillion times so far

>all russian ports are frozen
What is Black Sea?

Also going by your logic, Canada should be equally poor

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Thieving politicians

>black sea
Exit controlled by turkey
>canada
Have full access to both relevant oceans.
Are you 9yo or what? Is that polen education fail or your parents?

More excuses

> More excuses
Not needed.

>asks questions
>gets answers
>"e-excuses"
why are butthurtbelter so fucking retarded

>what is black sea
blocked by turks, nato member turks
>by your logic, canada should be equally poor
it would be if the whole world put sanctions on them

>americans kill 4 times more civilians than isis in iraq on some made up bullshit war
welp, no terrorism here, move along folks, nothing to see here, americans killing 4 times more people than isis in the same area where isis operates is perfectly fine with this international community
>russians bloodlessy occupy crimea to prevent another imperialist nato military base from expanding for the trillionth time since 1945
evil! vile! horrific! how dare those russians defend themselves?!?!?
FUCKING EVIL RUSSIANS!!! PUTTING THEIR 1000 YEARS OLD BORDERS TOO CLOSE TO OUR NEWEST NATO BASE!!!!
SANCTIONS! SANCTIONS! SANCTIONS! SANCTIONS! SANCTIONS! SANCTIONS! SANCTIONS! SANCTIONS!

lmao
if you put sanctions per civilian killed, USA would be the most sanctioned country in the world
for guantanamo bay only, dont even get me started on vietnam, middle east, latin america, etc

niggas be speaking polish in moscow, but russian in villages around it?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resource_curse

>Exit controlled by turkey
Did that stop you from sending your navy to Syria?

redpilled
Resources do not give you prosperity. We had 70 years of communism with Civil war, repressions, genocides, deportations, etc. In the Eastern bloc there was only 40-50 years of "soft" communism. If we compare Russia with Ukraine or Belarus, then we are not that bad. Russian GDP per capita ($ 12,191) is closer to Poland ($ 14,468) than to Belarus ($ 4,991) or Ukraine ($ 2,964).

>1000 YEARS OLD BORDERS
Russia gained Crimea in XIXth century last time I checked and gave it to Ukraine in 1967, willingly.

Ukraine didnt existed until 1992

the point is, per region of the world, america spilled the most civilian blood in total and most often to boost their fruit corporation market shares (latin america) or big oil (middle east) etc

if you need to blame someone for savagery, imperialism, and spilling of civilian blood, its your daddy usa, go sanction them and then you can come back here to compare economies

He obviously meant ukrainian SSR you fucktard

Then why was it given Crimea?

What does USA have to do with this thread?

Kazakhstan never existed at all

but isnt it was the communism that allowed russians to create those engines that you were talking about? and many other things in industry, they also civilized central asia and siberia

because it stagnated after the space race and repercussions are still felt today, by comparison china had deng xiaoping who set up a communism with chinese characteristics regime which is partly responsible for china's booming growth right now

Good for you, Russia. We like Putin.

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>Learning history is too boring I better invent it myself

>american meddling has no impact on economy

in the most recent context, the shock to the Russian economy with the "shock therapy" implementation of neoliberal economic policy after the collapse of the USSR shook the economy to its core, leading to a huge economic downturn that would last years
between 1990 and 1998, there was only one year where Russia's GDP reached above 0% (1.4%), while 1992 saw a -14.5% GDP growth rate
the beginning of the capitalist years for russia were plagued with widespread administrative corruption, with members of elite circles of the late soviet union grabbing ownership of privatized state industries, which directly influences the nature of the contemporary Russian oligarchy
this has lead to widespread wealth disparity, poverty and organized crime among the people
there's also the fact that Russia is an imperialist power itself that seeks to expand its economic hegemony, but the EU and the US have opposed this, and have removed Russia from the G8 and placed economic sanctions on them

I think you might be a little obsessed friend.

>ask question
>get answer
>huur duuuur duuur

Extremely low percentage of TJ (thinking-judging) personality types.

1) In the West and East Asia they form the backbone of social, political and economical institutions (Weberian rational bureaucracy, functional police, courts, managers, etc)

2) They are the only types who tend to be both money-oriented and more or less law-abiding. Others are either indifferent to making money and pursuing career or don't abide the law.

I think it's a combination of genetics, Orthodox christianity and also communism. Keep in mind in Eastern Europe commies just fucked up the economy, in Russia they also physically exterminated up to 10 million middle class and upper class people and expelled another 2 million from the country. The rest were either braindead, starving and illiterate peasants or urban underclass (gopniks).

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Your answer has nothing to do with the subject, you are literally blaming USA for Russian poverty. Which makes no sense.

>Canada should be equally poor
Vancouver, our main pacific port, is rarely ever under 0C or close enough to freeze the ports
St. John's and Halifax, our main atlantic ports, both operate through the winter
Toronto and Hamilton, our main great lakes ports, stay operating throughout the year also
the fact isn't just that only geography fucks them, it's that Canada is aligned with US and EU economic imperialism and opposing Russian economic imperialism
we have a huge export economy that relies on European and American trade, if we were sanctioned to the same degree as Russia by the US and EU, we would legitimately face economic collapse
Russia has essentially been boxed in by other imperialist powers (China, US, EU), and we are seeing the material impact of that on the Russian people

Yes, he's the obsessed one

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communism was the major region that Russia is as developed as it is though
the USSR may have had its flaws, but the Soviets were capable of industrializing at a pace that was far faster than a pace guided by the profit motive

>Why shithole country which always been poor, remains poor shithole country to this day?

hmmmm

what am i even looking at here???

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Polish autism. Their whole mindset revolves around Russia.

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Yes, I'm glad I could finally post this thread and have an actual discussion without janny deleting it in 5 seconds.

nothing wrong with exposing r*ssia though

Those threads weren't mine. They are posted on various days, meanwhile mine was constantly being deleted by janny when I tried to post it on the same day.

I don't give a fuck if you spend day and night posting the same photo over and over again and then being mad when janny deletes your thread. It's his life he's wasting, not mine. I like making fun of him though

>707x10000
>10000
this is legit mental illness tier
i bet he must be thinking he is saying something important or profound as well

all in all, russian trade is blocked by frozen seas and nato straits, while the military industry is among the most developed in the world
with global warming, russia has the opportunity to became the wealthiest region
/thread

Yeah that kinda proves that Poles are collectively mentally ill and that it's not just you

Wait, hold on. Is it true that Russians are gonna block the internet on their end or just a rumor?

From what I heard they were gonna shut off all external access for a day to see if they could run without the global internet.

There is something wrong with you if your daily goal is to create anti-Russian thread which would not be deleted.

Konigsberg before Slavs and after Slavs

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Russians are albino niggers

>anglos bomb königsberg into dust
>wtf I hate slavs now
low iq
although I agree that the commieblocks are ugly

Military industry doesn't create the weth of state - it's quite opposite.

Turkey, Iran and India have all strong military industries, but it doesn't make them rich countries.

Trying to post your thread that doesn't violate any rules again after janny deletes it without reason is mental illness?

it's not me, Volga German retard

Have a look at Warsaw before Germans and after them

That's... interesting.

>communism was the major region that Russia is as developed as it is though
No it isn't. Technology is. There are many other places that developed far more quickly and are now much richer than russia or other communist countries. You borderline illiterates just love ascribing the achievements of scientists, engineers and the cumulative growth of human understanding to your snake oil ideology.

Except I'm not doing it.

How is military industry not one of the most important things when it comes to nations? What matters more, how many s400 divisions you have, or how shiny car your poor people drive?

You only have a few sovereign countries in the world anyway, and those are nuclear countries. All other countries are governed by the ambassadors of these nuclear countries. Your democratically elected presidents follow order of a helper of a helper of a helper of a helper of some ambassador from a nuclear country who is in charge of the region. Weapons decide everything, trade and wealth too, along with diplomacy and politics. All these second class citizen non nuclear countries have to nod and agree. They have to be deeply concerned when americans tell them to be deeply concern, they have to be happy when americans tell them to be happy, etc.

Countries like Luxembourg, Germany, Netherlandes, Belgium don't have strong armies. Instead, they focuse on boosting their economy.

Meanwhile countries with strong armies (I'd add Brazil to the list I've already mentioned) are not as rich and developed.

In fact, focusing on weapons can actually damage your economy, as you spend more money on something that will literally have no use for your economy (unless there is actually a war). Arms race was literally one of reasons why USSR collapsed economically.

yes, research and development may increase the labour productivity within industry, but im talking about the reason for russia being so industrialized
the vast majority of Russia's investment and development into heavy industry was under communism
the thing about heavy industry (it's exactly what it sounds like) is that it requires a large amount of investment to fund the operation, and the profit margins tend to be lower than more labour-intensive "light" industry
compared to essentially any country west of Russia, the tsarist economy was far more agrarian, with a huge portion of the workforce either as small-landowner farmers or tenant farmers iirc, and the the nature of maintaining a rigid fuedal class structure during this period created resistance to the development of a Russian capitalist class, compared to the more industrialized liberal democracies forming in western europe in this period
Russia under a socialist state was able to industrialize at a pace that surpassed the ability of the profit motive, as the heavy industry required for industrialization carried a huge investment cost and high risk due to lower profit margins

>the vast majority of Russia's investment and development into heavy industry was under communism
*was under socialism, my bad

>Russian military industry is also the only one really close to the US
Um, no it's not. They have 1980s equipment with some new paint.

>but isnt it was the communism that allowed russians to create those engines that you were talking about?

What allowed them to create those engines was technology they begged/bought/borrowed/stole from Western cunts.

Whatever makes you sleep better at night.

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cmon now. Sure a lot of their shit is old but their ballistics and especially anti-air is absolutely top of the line

That's why you have nukes. Russia would get steamrolled even harder but they make it clear that they'll set the world ablaze if their territory is occupied.

And most of their electronics are purchased from Europe and Israel.

Why should we ally with China? For me, it is better to ally with the United States and wipe out China in exchange for the annexation of Ukraine and Belarus.

Like I said, and Russian industrialization was mainly done with strategic purposes in mind and the military. People's living standards and consumer goods were not a major factor in it.

The way you measure wealth is weird to me. Sure, Europe is more wealthy if you wanna be a junkie or gay or welfare leech, I agree.
But what if you want to do something meaningful in your life? What if you want to pursue a career in the aerospace industry, military sector, nuclear careers??

Also, European Union is a bubble. Bubbles burst. Doesnt matter if its a bad housing market, bad credit, or bad defense policy. One invasion (and you have one every 100 years) is all it takes to burst the Luxembourg bubble. The greater the difference in military industries, the greater the chance of this bubble to burst. Oh and believe me, the difference in military industries is growing.

Russia is "poor" because it has 0 bubbles. Nothing is inflated.

>but the Soviets were capable of industrializing at a pace that was far faster than a pace guided by the profit motive

You do realize the US went from being a mostly agrarian country to an industrialized superpower in about 35-40 years in the 19th century and it was all done via the profit motive.

Because China is a non-hostile neighbor and about to become the world's leading economic power? It's literally the best partner one can have. You should be glad that you're on good terms with them.

2nd is unironically pretty aesthetic

based and redpilled, vlad

Um, no.

Germany, UK, France - these three countries alone have worldwide brands known all around the world, in motorization, heavy industry, IT, electronics, fashion, etc. This is measurement of power of their economy.

What recognisable brands does Russia have?

>Because China is a non-hostile neighbor

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the military often carries research & development projects that innovate consumer goods and goods production as well, and the US isn't an exception
the internet was funded through a pentagon program, the average consumer drone is directly inspired by US military drone research, instant coffee, automobiles (jeeps for example), GPS, airplanes, microwaves, etc etc
there was also development into medicine, foodstuffs, and others that aided in building up the USSR's industrial sector

Cool meme pic

Lots of people are saying communism, but were they that better off in the tsar days?

Has russia ever had a government that wasn't fucked?

>But what if you want to do something meaningful in your life? What if you want to pursue a career in the aerospace industry, military sector, nuclear careers??

The sole purpose of the people working in russian government is to steal money from own people and to move to
these "bubble countries"in the West.

Your whole perception of russia is a wishful thinking.

>Non-hostile
>Pretends China didn't already betray Russia before to suck American cock
>China, the nation bankrupting their neighbors by creating expensive infrastructure that crumbles after a few years
>Literally just cucked Pakistan for their largest port by using this method
Yeah sure pal, just salty because you guys can't do much but suck American and Russia cocks

literally all of chinas neighbors hate it
literally every single one
in fact, vietnam, the very country we agent oranged just a single generation ago, is now one of the most pro american countries in all of asia because they see us as a check to chinese aggression

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You're by far the most annoying ape on this board today, Slobodan.

You Americans need to make up your mind
edition.cnn.com/2018/09/14/asia/vostok-2018-analysis-ilyushina-hodge-intl/index.html
economist.com/europe/2018/09/06/russia-and-china-hold-the-biggest-military-exercises-for-decades
economist.com/leaders/2018/09/06/why-russia-and-chinas-joint-military-exercises-should-worry-the-west

to be fair, your country had to go through a civil war to make that happen, just as Russia did
and the US was born into a very different class structure than feudal tsarist Russia, which is important to remember when considering the development of industry

never
it was retarded since the 10th century, but went on full retard mode in 16th century

Doesn't threaten us at all, the news reporters like to sensationalize the news, what's new? Most Russians arn't oblivious to the fact that China is taking advantage of them. China has cucked them for trillions of dollars of technology. Russia releases a new tank, China introduces a royalty free copy in the following year.

Because it’s full of russians.