Babies are the ultimate investment

Not if you birth autists who can't take care of themselves.

>thinking this is about religitard shit
earth is hell. this is the prison. when you bring a child into this world, you are condemning another soil to toil in hell (life on earth). you just made another energy slave. congratulations, OP.

i have one on the way
gib baby tips plz

Nature will work that shit out, you can have another one and hope it doesn't go as sour.

If you still need to ask if marriage is a good financial decision, you are still in "never going to make it" status. Like all financial decisions, consider the risk and reward. Opportunity cost of marriage is you, in theory, permanently forgo sex with all other women in exchange for sex with one for the rest of your life. That one person is long an options contract that you will with 100% certainty not be able to sell at a profit. They lose value everyday and it starts to accelerate in their 30s. What do you have to put up for this privilege? Your free time, often times your hobbies, and 50% of your networth. As you accumulate net worth your access to pussy (your opportunity cost) increases, while your current asset (your wife) tanks in value AND your gross financial risk goes up since the 50% exposure remains constant. There is no scenario marriage makes sense, because the girl worth being with for the rest of your life would never subject you to such a laughable contract.

Nature won't. You will, with your money. That useless autist will be your responsibility.

Earth is fucking BEAUTIFUL. The people who think this is even remotely a "prison" have fallen prey to negativity and have closed their eyes to the wonders of this planet and existence. Life is a truly amazing experience, often even in what we'd consider its most dire examples. Travel the country you live in and look at nature around you. Listen to the insects at night. Close your eyes the next time you're eating and let the food just sit in your mouth. This is the fucking garden of Eden, my man. It's all about perspective.

Harder for your wife than it is for you. She is just a titty milk bag for weeks and weeks and months and months. Help her as much as you can. Be patient with her. Do as much with the kid as you can (change diapers often, bottle feed at least a couple of times a week - titty milk only, of course). Rock her to sleep. This will help you develop a stronger bond so the kid doesn't piss you off. They really have nothing to offer you now other than being your offspring, so don't expect some kind of cute looks or their understanding you're their dad or whatever. That doesn't happen for a long time. But you'll find moments when you look at them and have higher level thoughts about life and what this really is. Cherish those. Also, shit happens FAST. The first 2-3 weeks the baby is like an alien insect, it doesn't open its eyes a lot, it shakes its head violently in weird ways and opens its mouth at anything in hopes for food. A week later and it's looking at you and is aware of your presence. A week later it smiles at you for the first time. A week later it follows you with its eyes. Week by week massive developments happen, so try to appreciate every week even if some of them suck.

hire a baby nurse for the first two months unless you literally want to be on the verge of death from the lack of sleep. It is worth the money trust me

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Good analysis, user. I think the value mileage varies - my wife is generally a good sport in terms of my hobbies/free time and I can't complain about that, but I have friends who definitely just gave themselves completely to their spouse. Almost everything you're saying is true in some sense, though.

If you can afford this it's a good idea. My wife is from a country where if we moved there we'd have 2 people working as "help" full time including a nanny and staying in the US was a tough decision for us. We have a $150k combined salary and live in a decently large city so hiring a nanny was not an option for us here. We chose to stay because of the USA life meme, but honestly I think I should have just moved and I'd be living like a fucking king right now and we'd both be well rested.

What a beautiful analysis. A+

Immortality is fucking disgusting
No different from wigs who put their names on buildings.
Enjoy having your child browse Jow Forums all day
Even worse, enjoy leaving them to suffer alone after you die.
Procreating the ultimate meme. Good job. You played yourselves.

boomer 101 thread. all you say is how having akid improves and impacts your own life, is there anything more narcissistic?

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totally agree annon

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thanks user

I'm supposed to what, tell you how having a kid impacts the world around me? It doesn't. We don't need more people at this point, species survival is not at risk. Having a kid is a wholly selfish act no matter who you are right now. My kid is too undeveloped to be of any real value to anyone, or for me to think about what an amazing life I will give them. I have no idea what their wants or needs will be. At this point, perspective and realism only affords me the ability to think about how it has affected my own life. Your idealistic cope is fucking juvenile.

the earth is beautiful, but compared to infinite consciousness, it's a prison. it's all perspective.

>be middleclass
>doesn't know about stem cell therapy and NAD+ IV therapy
>literally going to miss the window an entire group of wealthy elites get to live for centuries
keep telling yourself that little piece of inferior DNA carrier matters

Totally agree user. Also, if commenters don't have kids of their own then their opinions don't matter.

You're not afforded infinite consciousness while in this existence. This existence is short lived. Why not enjoy it while it lasts? If your infinite consciousness is even a possibility, you're more likely to attain it post current state. Don't throw this away just because it's not your ultimate desire of existence. That doesn't make it not worth appreciating the experience.

Yeah enjoy your children get fucked by niggers before eventually the entire specie goex extinct on this rock clinging to its iphones. That's pretty much all you're raising them for.

wait u can just do that?

Keep telling yourself that we're going to get to play god in the future, something we as a species have been saying for the last several thousand years. If we ever do crack the code, I'll be long gone, and my best bet will be my lineage living on and enjoying those fruits. You also will be long dead, so don't count your chickens, user.

>Listen to the insects at night.

Thats the sound of 3.5 billion people with nothing to eat desu

Truth, it's easy to separate the children from the men in this thread.

>You're not afforded infinite consciousness while in this existence
exactly. you're supposed to work to attain it. having a kid makes that impossible. also, that kid will now learn from you and repeat what you have done, unless they have a glimpse of infinite consciousness. it's why almost all spiritual teachers did not have children.

I am a geneticist, believe me, no one is original, and if anyone dies nothing of value was lost

Especially a fetus

Is having daughters the ultimate cuckoldry?

I cannot think or comprehend of anything more cucked than having a daughter. Honestly, think about it rationally. You are feeding, clothing, raising and rearing a girl for at least 18 years solely so she can go and get ravaged by another man. All the hard work you put into your beautiful little girl - reading her stories at bedtime, making her go to sports practice, making sure she had a healthy diet, educating her, playing with her. All of it has one simple result: her body is more enjoyable for the men that will eventually fuck her in every hole.

Raised the perfect girl? Great. Who benefits? If you're lucky, a random man who had nothing to do with the way she grew up, who marries her. He gets to fuck her tight pussy every night. He gets the benefits of her kind and sweet personality that came from the way you raised her.

As a man who has a daughter, you are LITERALLY dedicating at least 20 years of your life simply to raise a girl for another man to enjoy. It is the ULTIMATE AND FINAL cuck. Think about it logically

>you're not me, so you can't possibly understand
this is SJW-tier thinking. pathetic.

34 yr old, not virgin, but been alone long enough might as well be virgin

I would be the best dad. Would love to have a son and play sports with and video games. But don't see it happening. Oh well. I have hopes of making it on crypto and expating somewhere I can find a young lady and start a family.

This is why I come to biz. A gold nugget drowned in a sea of shitcoins and pajeets

why do you care that YOUR pseudo-random nucleic acids pair and splice with another set of pseudo-random nucleic acids? DNA is simply a log of biological imperatives, it has no intrinsic value unto itself.

I pity your daugther who has to live with such a dumb and pathethic dad.

by the time i'm old we'll have cloning/mind transfer/cyborg augmentation so don't waste your time on babies

Sorry, are you talking about seeking Nirvana or something? That's as much equal bullshit to me as Christianity. The universe has pre-determined what's going to happen to you. You're simply along for the ride. You think you'll achieve "infinite consciousness" while on this Earth? Top keks to you, sir. Literally impossible.

Because I think it's incredible by all scientific standards, and most scientists agree. Except that weird geneticist above who despite all other scientists saying all DNA is unique seems to believe no DNA is unique. Obvious larp, just wanted to pay homage to his idiotic post!

I had a baby with my GF.

Enjoy it and glad I'm not married.

>signing a piece of paper that guarantees a woman half your assets

Holy shit fuck that

>That's as much equal bullshit to me
>Literally impossible
your perception is limited. it's why you're having a child, to "protect" your DNA instead of working to attain infinite consciousness. base materialism is the spell under which most find themselves. this is the hell of illusion.

Good on you, user. You did it right.

Kek has spoken.
I must make babbys

Thanks man.

Truly I'm shocked that so many men get married in the current era. It's downright obvious the courts favor women.

Loving a woman and making a baby is natural. That piece of paper is not.

pointsprizes.com/ref/10867202

It doesn't even matter if you got the paper once you have kids though. Common law marriage applies once you've been together for a few years and have kids.
Been with my "wife" 10 years now, but never married her officially. We've got a house, dog, 2 kids, etc...living the dream. I know damn well I'd get rekt financially if we ever split.

my 5 year old son is autistic. he shits on the floor and barely speaks a few words. i want to kill myself daily

Raising daughters is the most one of the most rewarding experiences as a man. It's hard to understand how your mind got to be so poisoned user...

>being so afraid of death that you do the most common thing ever and try to explain to Jow Forums Jow Forums why this 18+ year massive liability is an amazing investment

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>Telling people to obtain "infinite consciousness" (whatever the hell that means) instead of having babies because having babies is "materialism".

You New Age nutcases are worst than incels.

What's wrong with Incels apart from being ugly and repulsive.

early 20's zoomers can afford these kinds of delusions. Life hasn't really happened for them yet.

you literally have no understanding of what i wrote. your obvious defensive tone is evidence of it. i'll give you a hint. materialism is not consumerism

Fuck off faggot, life isn't for you to define.

t.boomers.
it really is true - the younger generations are more aware than the ones that came before

Based OP.

you are not born gay

its bcuz a relative touched you

kys

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Common law requires a lot of things...

Shared bank account, shared bills, shared assets.

None of which we have

And even then common law is a much weaker legal case than an actual marriage

You're way better off paying child support than alimony.

No, you just think you are. We boomers thought the same thing 10 years ago. The fag posting about infinite consciousness was me at one time.

I hope that's not another spic

I want to make cute hapa babies :3

If serious I pity you so much.

I would rather not have a kid at all than a handicapped child.

What do you think causes autism?

>not uploading your consciousness into a robot and living eternally

Lol, get off your high horse. Your argument from authority isn't going to work on me. You think you're some enlightened genius just because you've read some ancient texts and practice some stupid rituals that's "ToDeep4 for plebeians" to understand. If you think starting a family is bad, then that's your problem. Don't try to spin into holier-than-thou bullshit.

>The fag posting about infinite consciousness was me at one time.
that's me. learn to IDs, boomer. i bet it was you before you had kids, got a morgage and resigned yourself to attempting to feel complete by attaining through more things, including kids.

you're inferring a sanctimonious tone because you do not understand it. everything i said is regarded as fact, spiritually speaking. you chose the path of materialism and that is ok. you'll get another chance next time around

Aware of what? Googling for everything they don't know and thinking that their echo chambers are the sources of truth?

>my offspring will carry my DNA into the future
Who cares? You will still be dead.

>bagholding DNA
>bagholding babies
>implying that child is even yours

invest in paternity tests

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>people who havent been doped up by parental hormones and whos minds are therefor clear and unclouded should be ignored

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i bought into the 'muh vaccines cause autism' meme so we didnt do any vaccines and he turned autistic anyway. now i think its the roundup ready gmo shit that builds up in breast milk because he was breast fed and refused to give it up until 4 years old

Me back when my life was so empty I had to feed my mind stories about how special I was.
Hope you're not so lonely that you entertain the idea of a monastic life. You won't find anyone there worth being.

>Aware of what?
this proves my point. you think awareness is related to someTHING. this is why you do not understand what i'm saying.

Wow hmm.

We do formula.

Sucks man. Hope you can find a silver lining.

wow, sounds bad. how long did you live the monastic life?

I guess all living things are materialistic then because they want to reproduce. Obtaining something physical and something not physical, what difference does it make? You still need to be selfish in order to obtain it. You still need to affect the material world in order to obtain it. Obtaining nirvana, "infinite consciousness", or whatever your religion calls it is still a selfish goal.

Awareness has to be in relation to something.You can't be aware of nothing unless you're braindead.

Holy crap you guys are depressing. Congratulations OP...hopefully there is more to having a baby in your mind then simply passing on yoyr DNA though.

The rest of you bitter little cocksuckers just please go back to your holes.

I met a good woman who is a successful entrepreneur and just a genius when it comes to business in general. Unless bitcoin reaches 1 million dollars a coin she will always have way more money than money than me and be more successful....but thats okay...she pays for everything and gives me whatever she thinks i might want and on top of that is a kind hearted amazing person.

We travel the world togetber all on ger dime.

Where did i meet this person? China.

You guys need to leave the ugly fat western pigs called women alone entirely and realize there are women worth marrying or being with out there and if you do get married, marry way above your income level so they have no need nor desire for your resources.Win win.

>he shits on the floor and barely speaks
I shouldnt laugh but I did anyway.

Also old lady eggs cause autism. Women are much, much more likely to have an autistic kid the older they are at time of birth. Was her biological clock ticking? Like 30 years old+?

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I've done the circuit. Lived in intentional communities...ashrams...wandered aimlessly as a hitchhiker...lost myself in the jungles of Peru. Might be I'm a bit jaded at this point.
There was something there to learn ever step of the way, sure...but I'm a much more grounded person now. Gotta keep your feet on the ground.

>I guess all living things are materialistic then because they want to reproduce.
you're still missing it. read the part after "i'll give you a hint" and reflect on it without thinking
>Obtaining something physical and something not physical, what difference does it make?
the difference is, when one obtains infinite consciousness, one isn't confined to this reality prison afterward.
>or whatever your religion calls it is still a selfish goal
this is not a religion. it is the spiritual knowledge from which all religions are based. did people think jesus was selfish for trying to share this info with people?
if you say so, fren. you have to think outside of rigid definitions. think about meaning as opposed to labels

nice digits. i hear ya. na, i have no interest in that lifestyle, although i considered it briefly when i was younger.

Unironically this, you're fucking selfish OP.

let go of that ego. your dna isn't that important. the world doesn't need more of you, and you went ahead and made more of you anywas. besides it's probably cheaper to freeze your dna than to raise a child that might not even have kids

yeah she was 36. fuck

It's actually the father's old pathetic sperm that is linked with autism.

"When compared to a child born to a 24-year-old father, a child born to a 45-year-old father was 3.5 times more likely to have autism, 13 times more likely to have ADHD and 25 times more likely to have bipolar disorder."

jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/1833092?resultClick=3

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well my sperm was 32. all i wanted in life was a son i could teach amazing things, and i cant even talk to mine. fucking tearing up right now

I'm sure you will be able to teach your son things, it might just be in a different way. Maybe consider having another child?

>my older sister and her boyfriend don't want to get married and have kids
>I'm a wageslave that wants to quit and gamble
Ask my parents how they feel about their "investments".

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>deliberately having children with a 36 year old woman

Why? Did no one explain to you the risks?

Did these feminist cunts seriously not control for the age of the mother in the study? I see no mention of that anywhere. Older men tend to marry older women, therefore they have more autistic kids. It has nothing to do with mens sperm whatsoever. Yet another feminist propaganda piece out of sweden, the laughing stock of the world. Other studies not written by brainwashed feminists that actually controlled for the womens age found only very slight effects of sperm degradation. Men age like fine wine. Women do not.

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it was my only chance to make a child and i took it. have i felt regret? yes

Of course there is, just catering the post to biz. I'm glad it has spawned all sorts of interesting discussion. Having a child is truly beautiful, as is the unique subjectivity of the meaning of life which is prevalent throughout this thread.

these always make me laugh, because i'm too young to be a boomer, but too old to drink energy drinks

>parents have 4 (four) children
>not a single one of them is going to give them grand-children from the looks of it
lmao nice investment

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Fine I'm sold. Now where do I get a woman to make babies