Is taxation really that bad?

i dont get that
id be extremely miserable in norway
who on earth would enjoy living in an ultraliberal soft totalitarianism with no community values

1. Norway is not a socialist country
2. The US does not practice "Unfettered Capitalism". Doing business in the US is convoluted as fuck.

Some expenses don't scale, but many do. If you have 60 times the population, you have 60 time the taxpayers to fund shit.

They would be wealthy regardless. Oil only pushes them to new level.

not all people can give the same amount of tax though since tax is not a flat number but a percentage.

But they were only #2. That means there is one country in the world and ONLY one country that is better than Norway. One country that is above all the rest. The best country in the world. What could that country be? Who is #1? Who is the best country in the world?

>Norway
>socialism
are burgers really this retarded?

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>pay less
>get more
>muh socialism

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Taxation is THEFT if your officials are corrupt and incompetent.
That's why I totally understand why people here don't pay the right taxes. 99% of ALL businesses here don't pay the right taxes

>58k
damn, no wonder everybody wants to move there...

Yes, it is. Norway and the Scandis in general are the example of a decadent society which are already losing their ways for material benefits

n*rdic countries are cold shitholes

FINLAND
FINLAND IS BEST
WOHOOOO
LETS TALK ABOUT FINLAND

meanwhile macacoland, the beacon of decency is still a fucking shithole and will remain so until eternity, stfu stupid nigger

in the US only 47% of the labour force pay tax

I'm pretty sure we have a bit more than 25%

This. It's just capitalism with a focus on welfare

It's actually Denmark.

Great argument my friend :) My country being shit sure proves my argument wrong :)

Suomi on paras!

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Meanwhile Brazil looks like a place where society decayed already

Finland
I knew

What??? Really? Finland is the best country in the world? Wow! That's surpri- no, never mind it's not surprising at all. I live in Finland and honestly, I couldn't ask for anything better. Finland is truly the greatest and best country in the world. Finland makes Norway look third world. Finland makes Sweden look like the USA. Finland is simply what all countries want to be. Finland is what all countries should become. Finland is a utopia. Finland is a perfect country with perfect people. Finland is the world's happiest country for a reason, happier than Norway, happier than anyone. Finland is truly the land of good people. Just people. Helpful people. Friendly people. Trustworthy people. Intelligent people. Why yes, we do have the highest IQ's in Europe, how did you know? Oh, it was just a guess based on how awesome Finland is? Yes, Finland is truly awesome.

Read here

>american capitalism
>unfettered
More like the government is in bed with and heavily unfluenced by multinationals
>norway
>democratic socialism
>even euros are falling for the american definition of socialism
If you aren't trying to abolish capitalism you're not socialist, welfare is not synonymous with socialism

>average tax 37%

Uh.... this is our tax bracket

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>If you aren't trying to abolish capitalism you're not socialist, welfare is not synonymous with socialism
It was obviously made by a clueless American leftist

yeah federal. Most states levy state income taxes as well.

It's averaged, poor people pay less % or their income in taxes than richer people, and most income tax system are progressive, this means that part of the income you make is taxes with a lower %.
investopedia.com/terms/p/progressivetax.asp
It make also take into account payed tax, so if you have a certain rate but then there are deductions to this tax they might have been accounted in the study, showing a lower tax % that the one you supposedly have.

Not all states have income tax

Yes, but most do. Can you read?

Even still, the tax rate is less than 5%

You forgot
>drive to neighboring countries for groceries because they cost twice as much at home

This is including both federal and state tax for someone who makes $50k a year

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You are a bunch of disgusting thieves whose money comes from thieving the wealth of other countries by financial fuckery and protecting nazis' and criminals' money.
I can only one day the capitalist system is demolished and you lose all your wealth, and you suffer like you deserve for being a parasite to the world.

Liberalism, social democracy, democratic socialism, and communism are all the same thing, libtard

How can anyone even compare to our glorious nation?

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I buy Cod from your country

nice spread. what's the deal with y'alls fish industry though? I watched a documentary on it and was surprised that you guys allow such misconduct.

Norway didn't want to become a member of the EU for a couple reason and one of them was to keep their fishing laws

misconduct where?

You're just seething because you murdered an entire continent for gold and then pissed it all way.

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Meanwhile 0% of the few percent who own over 40% of the country pay a single cent of income tax.

I see. It's a very American move if I do say so myself, knowingly giving people toxic food..

pic related

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Norwegian farmed salmon is the most toxic salmon on the planet, desu. Entirely due to yank tier corporate greed.

No, I didn't do it, some people that were born near where I was born did it, then gave the money to a Austrian (of Swiss origin), my grandparents were simple farmer, I descent from farmers than didn't leave Spain.
Meanwhile you, even if not related to the banking, benefit from it hugely.
I don't benefit from American gold.

>Norwegian farmed salmon is the most toxic salmon on the planet
Are you serious?? What about their Cod? I usually buy their cod....

I’m going to stop buying this shit now

>I see. It's a very American move if I do say so myself, knowingly giving people toxic food..

Their final product still has to meet EU standards if they want to export it, so it's more about the conditions in their fisheries and fishing quotas than about toxic food.

Banking is the 3rd largest Swiss sector and we've been wealthy for over 200 years now, mostly because we are amongst the earliest adopters of the industrial revolution in Europe and have a ultra stable government and 200 years of peace. So go fuck yourself you stupid child.

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Now I see how you voted for a guy who thinks stating which year it is is a valid argument

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>Is taxation really that bad?
Yes, it is evil

Tell me how I am get a Swiss bank account

Cod is not farmed yet, maybe in the future though

That’s still scary. What do Norwegians do to make fish so unsafe ?

Ah, I see. So, what's the fuss? Is the ruckus directed simply towards domestic consumption?

This is bullshit. Just lies from some french retard who doesn't know anything at all. Not that i expect much from them either

Most toxic doesn't necessarily mean it's unsafe

t. critical thinker

Social democracy isn't the same thing like Socialism. It's basically restricted capitalism with basic forms of welfare (education, healthcare,social safety neet).

You don't deserve anything, you deserve to suffer for being a parasite fucking faggot kys.

The documentary was pretty convincing.

Enjoy your unemployment and subsequent failure at life.

Yes

I'm leaving this shithole but thanks for worrying.

Can we take into account that your country is almost entirely dependent on oil? Your country has virtually no corporate welfare because the cornerstone of your economy is one of the most demanding and profitable materials on earth. The US for example has a very diversified economy with lots of sectors propped up with subsidies. Our agriculture sector is almost entirely propped up to stay competitive with Chinese and various African countries. It's also the reason why we grow so much corn and put it into our food, because it's the most cost effective crop to reduce food prices per amount used in subsidizing the crops. Honsestly comparing the two is completely retarded.

the world economy would collapse without our toxic fish

Pity is for free, envy is hard earned.

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this but unironically

Yeah but you also eat fish soaked in Lye..

No. It’s just a meme developed by boomers. During the 50’s our highest tax bracket was something like 90% of income and that was one of the most prosperous economic periods in the country’s history. Ironically this is also when a lot of boomers grew up.

I have no envy, I prefer to be poor than to be a thief.

USA is the most resource rich country on earth, you are just spreading your asshole to the billionaires

>totalitarianism with no community values
Wanna know how I know you’re from Jow Forums?

no

great response, einstein
next you gonna reply with “duhhah auuhhu”?

duhhah auuhhu

We don’t want to totally fuck the environment by drilling and mining in every state

Sure Paco, you're the expert on Swiss economy apparently. You're seething for over an hour now and the fun thing is you know jack about actual Switzerland or our economy.
>muh banks
>muh thiefs
>why Spain so poorfag

Our agriculture sector and our timer sector would instantly collapse if we stopped giving them subsidies. I agree that Amazon is given too much but that's to keep down any Chinese competitor. Norway isn't given the burden of having to maintain global economic hegemony on services in order to keep the economy from collapsing. If China establishes itself as the superior tech giant then Silicon valley will die and our gdp will suffer, which is why the government happily dumps billions into our tech sector.

Meanwhile, the lowest bracket was below 20%. Your statement was dumb.

timber*

Yeah, for less than 2K, brainlet
>irs.gov/pub/irs-prior/i1040--1944.pdf
Bottom of page 4.

Yeah, what percentage of the population was making around there?

also
>1944
it's easy to spot someone who's full of shit when they start throwing out insults

>Taxation in itself isn't good or bad
Yes it is, it's inherently bad. Not only do you deprive people of the wealth they worked for but you also limit the economy (by for example increasing the income a company needs in order to stay operational, or increasing how much money a worker needs to earn just to feed and house himself). It's bad.

>it depends on how you spend the money
Not really. It depends on whether or not the expenditure can be justified. To name the most obvious example: raising an army. It's obvious that your "muh property rights" are meaningless if foreigners can just loot as they please. You're not going to stop rampant hordes with just a gun and sitting on your porch.

Open it at a bank, I guess. idk

census.gov/library/publications/1953/demo/p60-014.html

That wasn’t even the highest bracket year, I was just using it as an example since it was the shortest document.
>irs.gov/pub/irs-prior/i1040--1952.pdf

>oil and pure Nordic blood
>oil but also groids
WHOOPS HAHA

Don’t act like a large portion of that doesn’t go straight to the pockets of billionaires without care for quality control or maintaining a positive global image. Hell, most of these that are recieving insentives like the auto-industry go straight down to LatAm for cheaper production.
Not to say I don’t agree with subsidizing some businesses, but that’s clearly not the biggest issue here.

cringe

Wrong.
It's mostly the middle class that dodges taxes