WTF THERE ARE NO GOOD COINS IN EXISTANCE WTF

why tezos?

trips of truth

I'll be curious as to where grin goes. I'd also like to know what other projects you're interested in.

I don't have a lot of time to do research but I've been around the community on and off since pre Litecoin ASICs even though I'm stupidly a poor fag.

I once owned 16,000 eth. I sold them at release for $1.50 to recover my loses in the last big bear market and went back to my life.

My issue with Ethereum is that it's amateur hour. One of their big hacks was because solidity documented functions as defaulting to private when they actually defaulted to public. Then some yahoo jr dev removed the explicit private declaration on the miltisig send function.

I read the Tezos white paper and liked the idea of formal verification I'm light of ethereums hacks as it seems to be a constantly leaking ship. But way more importantly than that i liked the developers they were assembling.

Most both had PhDs and a lot of real world experience. This is a hugely rare combination. I also really liked Arthurs take on scaling and sTARKS - he was talking about it before any one.

It's the only idea I've seen that doesn't massively sacrifice decentralization or security to scale. Although now it looks like starkware is partnering with ethereum.

That said, I'm also on my redemption path for missing my $10mil shot and it likely heavily alters my biases. I went all in at the presale with 5btc. (I also got involved with more money later and cashed out for a decent chunk).

Anyway point being I'm probably severely biased but eos looks like a total clusterfuck and I've seen Dan's big "tps" with bitshares rise and fall, just doesn't resonate.

I also have a bias towards western projects as the west seems to invent and the east copies.

Ahem.

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You don't think Tezos is an amateur hour clusterfuck with a bunch of academic jargon for window dressing?

so basically you like the people behind it. Whats taking them so long? Dan got eos out in less than a year. Also tezos had a massive accounting clusterfuck where some boomer ran off with all their money to Switzerland or something?

Also Bitshares could not to smart contracts and was therefor highly limited in what it could do. Same thing with steem. Eos is not.

This waiting for the sec dip and going in

CTO of Coinbase just blocked the lead developer of Monero on twitter becasuse he is a asshole troll.

I wouldn't touch Monero if you are looking for a longterm investment. Big money will be coming in through exchanges like Coinbase and it won't be going into Monero with its unprofessional developers that talk shit on social media. This money will be peoples retirement savings, no fucking way will it go into that unprofessional trolling coin.

wait until big business realizes they can use monero to launder money and evade taxes. 1 Million dollars per monero 2025.

Trips...
Never change biz

wait until Coinbase and other big exchanges list a cryptonote coine with a professional team that doesn't scare investors with twitter rants

>thinking that monero has a monopoly on privacy

>CTO of Coinbase just blocked the lead developer of Monero on twitter becasuse he is a asshole troll.

Spagni is a figurehead and a github maintainer, not "the lead developer." Monero has no "lead developer." He's a fat faggot but he's usually not wrong about whatever he's talking about. Everything Coinbase has done in the past week could be interpreted as a move to undermine Monero (gee, I wonder why (((Coinbase))) would want to do such a thing?). I don't put any stock behind what their CTO does. He was looking for an opportunity to grandstand as if Coinbase was ever going to TOUCH Monero anyway. What a joke.

>I wouldn't touch Monero if you are looking for a longterm investment.
This is why you will never make it.

It pretty much does though. I wouldnt trust any other privacy coin. Neither does the darknet from what I have heard.

Yea so first on EOS the situation with the validators appears to be a mess. So far I've seen them censor accounts saying "we will explain why at a future date", and I've seen them MISS censoring accounts because one didn't show up to their Skype meeting for a few days. And some jackass was threatening to sue ...

In addition to this the arbitration entities appear to remain a secret with little transparency.

In addition to this my understanding is that ram prices can be jacked up by the validators who receive the payment for it.

I also read an article with Dan wanting to rewrite the constitution to make block producers only responsible for enforcing the interpretation of code. Not theft, or whatever else.

In addition to the above problems there were a multitude of security issues found right before release as there was no formal code review.

And in addition to that - I could never drill down into WHO was producing the code. At one point I went to the github but Dan wound up being the only one I could really put my finger on his background.

The problems introduced by governance (that in itself exists to make a high TPS chain) make the entire thing a no go for me.

There are other issues as well. For instance with tezos I can vote or delegate with a secondary key while my primary ey is stored on my hardware wallet.

I suspect this is why it took so long to get 15% of the vote to begin with.

The time doesn't bother me. It absolutely was amateur hour appointing Gevers but since the Swiss foundation locked the money down and the board has been replaced by God tier developers, led by a community member and complimented by the biggest VC fund (and the project has investments from gemeni and kraken) I feel like we dodged the bullet.

Gevers really did almost kill it.

I watched ethereums PoC releases for a year. Tezos did take forever but stuff like hardware wallet delegation, formal audits by Inria and a smoothly functioning network make me satisfied in the quality.

Is tezos actually working now? Like completely done and released with a mainnet? I havent been following it too closely.

Dumb reason for not going all in on Zilliqa, even without state sharding and small funding they're the best that this market can offer atm

just checked its rank, fucking #28 behind sea of shitcoins, makes me even more bullish..

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Who are these God tier developers? I was under the belief that tezos was having a hard time finding competent devs even with their mountain of money.

Also no hard cap sketches me out for tezos as a store of value.

I feel like Tezos is just a Decred style project but born at the height of the ICO and "smart contracts" hype, which is not a good thing.

>unhackable, safe to leave on exchanges

Also means they can lock up your coins without your consent, goy.

Yes but they probably wont do that unless you are selling childporn via smartcontract or something weird.

>identified major flaws in every coin
sounds like a good business opportunity to make your own coin. oh wait you're too dumb, and therefore probably wrong, so just pick some random lotto numbers or gtfo

Man guys you make it hard to respond to you.

Yes it's done. No they aren't having a hard time with devs. They have a 500mil warchest they are slowly deploying to initiatives.

The worst thing is their hardline stance on "no authority" which means no one is paying the $1 to $10mil exchange fees on the huge exchanges.

I happen to think vc money can & will resolve the issue (it's one of three coins Winkolvi twins have listed on their website)

There is almost 0 buzz at all. It absolutely was fundraised in the hype.

I'm betting on their technical prowess to create a safe smart contract system which neither Ethereum or EOS has been able to do.

It's also totally possible that the market literally doesn't give a shit ever and the entire thing stagnates without a central voice for marketing.

Awesome graph where'd you get this?

OP, there are investments you can make that aren't bullshit coins. No one fucking uses all these stupid ass coins.

I would also like to know that. Ive been going over that image with a fine tooth comb. Also what the fuck guys, dont save an image with text as a jpg. Thats what png is for. Now its a blurry piece of shit. Thanks for that blurry piece of shit you created.

I'm curious about the accuracy.

Tezos isn't listed but I know Olaf (CEO of polychain) is balls deep and on the board. So it may not be super accurate.

Play Fomo3D. You don't have to trust anything except human nature. People are naturally greedy which is why this game will become huge.

Here is how it works. You deposit ETH into a smart contract in exchange for KEYS. Your ETH goes into a pool. YOU CANNOT SELL YOUR KEYS SO YOUR ETH IS GONE FOREVER. The only way to make your money back is from dividends which you receive from those who buy KEYS after you. There is also a 24 hour timer, and once it runs out, the last person who bought KEYS before the timer reached 0:00:00 gets to take home the pot. Currently there is 850 ETH in the pot. The catch is that everyone who buys KEYS adds time to the timer. Some user did the math and there needs to be at least 120 KEYS purchased per hour to keep the timer at the maximum. At the moment there is something like 6,000 KEYS purchased per hour so we are not even close to worrying about the timer expiring yet.

There is obvious potential here. The longer this game goes the more dividends you will get. I have about 3k KEYS and that ends up to being around $150 (0.3 ETH) every 3 days at the current rate, which has been slow due to the high gas prices. Also, the shilling to normies hasn't even started yet. The 850 ETH in the pool is strictly from Jow Forums and the guys in the discord. IT IS STILL VERY EARLY. This game has the potential to provide a steady income for those who get in early, and I suggest that you DYOR because the potential here is massive. Even if you don't use my ref link, I recommend that you don't dismiss this opportunity.

Actually DYOR instead of calling me a pajeet tho. You can look at the contract yourself, and join the discord to see that the devs are legit and the community is excited.

exitscam.me/linkmarine

BCH

I found the source.

twitter.com/ICO_Analytics/status/1000784145000419329

Here is higher quality version. They themselves saved it as a jpg so oh well.

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>Yes but they probably wont do that unless
>probably
>unless

linkie dinkie doopidee stink~

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They make money off the printing of new eos. It is therefore in their best interest to keep the price as eos as high as possible so they can maximize their profit. If they start stabbing people in the back for no reason everyone will panic sell and they will be left with the ability to print worthless garbage. While there are no guarantees, it is in their financial best interests not to rock the boat.

They've already done it for theft & uncited reasons...

lmao
what a fucking shitshow
kys

Also if block producers start acting like clowns all the token holders can just vote them out. They dont have total control over the system.

>ban evil racists
>most people agree so it's cool

those are quads brainlet

OP HERE

Ok here's what I bought:

ETH
0x
Loom
BCPT (not to be confused with BTCP)
ENJ
DAG

how did i do?

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ill give you 8/10. Not bad at all. Add some eos, cardano and stellar lumens for suicide insurance.

4/10

just buy link idiot

........and here..... we...... go.

>I'm betting on their technical prowess to create a safe smart contract system which neither Ethereum or EOS has been able to do.
>It's also totally possible that the market literally doesn't give a shit ever and the entire thing stagnates without a central voice for marketing.
i'm thinking you're wrong on your analysis and come to the right conclusion here
as someone who actually develops smart contracts, solidity is not a problem to deal with. the flaws we see come from personal incompetency and hubris. parity people are too busy sniffing their own farts to code properly or bother auditing said code
we've got a bunch of flawless smart contracts running just fine on ethereum right now, and... building shit isn't the problem. finding users is! i see people expecting we're going to enter a blockchain singularity any second, but those expectations are unrealistic. the smarter part of the public is barely getting used to the idea of bitcoin/blockchain, after 9 years, and most of them see the speculative aspect more than the sovereign currency and immutable ledger parts. it will take years if not decades for smart contracts to pierce through the collective subconscious
formal verification is a red herring. competent developers can deal with whatever programming language they need to use. several institutions are already using ethereum behind the scenes for specific processes (when i say i develop smart contracts, i'm not talking about erc20 shitcoins for chink scams btw). what is needed is scaling + critical mass. frontfacing dapps will need to abstract transaction costs away. eos is not such a bad idea as a per app layer (although it is completely retarded as a first layer solution)

Only Monero.

What are your thoughts on Zilliqa and Dfinity? Do you think they'll take a fair share of uses/users from Ethereum? I know dethroning ETH isn't likely (even dfinity and zilliqa teams said they want to cooperate
with ether rather than compete)