/lang/ - Language Learning General

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>Ask questions about your target language!
>Help people who want to learn a new language!
>Participate in translation challenges or make your own!
>Make frens!

Read this shit some damn time:
4chanint.fandom.com/wiki/The_Official_Jow Forums_How_to_Learn_A_Foreign_Language_Guide_Wiki

Check this pastebin for plenty of language resources as well as some nice image guides.
pastebin.com/ACEmVqua

/lang/ is currently short on those image guides, so if you can pitch in to help create one for a given language, don't hesitate to do so!

Torrents with more resources than you'll ever need for 30 plus languages:
Totally not a virus, but rather, lots of free books on languages!:
mega.nz/#F!x4VG3DRL!lqecF4q2ywojGLE0O8cu4A

FAQ U:
>How do I learn a language? What is the best way to learn one? How should I improve on certain aspects?
Read the damn wiki
>Should I learn lang Y so I can learn lang X?
No
>What is the most useful language?
Manx
>What language should I learn?
Afrikaans
Old thread Old challenge

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Other urls found in this thread:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_language#Grammar
youtube.com/watch?v=FG_LmtqqinA
twitter.com/AnonBabble

First for learn German not dutch, not soydish and not norwegian,

OP describes the creation of the IVC.

I took french classes and learned nothing because our teacher just sat there and told us to learn verbs

>The Trans-Siberian Railway is a network of railways connecting Moscow with the Russian Far East. With a length of 9,289 kilometres (5,772 miles), from Moscow to Vladivostok, it is the longest railway line in the world. There are connecting branch lines into Mongolia, China and North Korea. It has connected Moscow with Vladivostok since 1916, and is still being expanded.

Die trans-siberische eisenbahn is ein netz von eisenbaehne die moskau mit dem fernen russischen osten verbindet. Mit einer Laenge von 9.289 kilometer von Moskau bis Vladivostok es ist die laengste eisenbahn der welt. Es gibt verbindung linien nach mongolei, china, und korea, es verbindete Moskau mit Vladivostok seit 1916 und es wird immer noch erweitet

i took french class, and learned nothing because my teacher just decided to go full retard and tried to fully "immerse us in french" aka speaking to us completely in french before we even knew any vocab

shit sucked and full immersion is a meme ..

Gave up on french and genuinely hate it more than any other language, except maybe the gutteral hebrew and robotic chinese languages. Travelled to europe, africa, the ME and malaysia the past few years, if you're moderately wealthy, Turkey and Lebanon are underrated

I asked this last thread but didn't get a clear answer so I guess I'll ask again:
What level of proficiency will Assimil German get me to?

One user said only to A1 and that Assimil is bad because it's very slow and I should just use the 1950s Assimil, but Germany had a language reform in the 90s, so I assume it's obsolete now.

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based, the quebecois have effectively ruined french for me.

One user said only to A2****

Ok lads describe your ideal language learning gf you will acquire in the future once you become decent in your target lang.

I'll start

>she's German
>tall 170 cm
>Big grey eyes, round head like a doll, with dirty blonde hair
>she speaks fluent Czech, spanish, and french too
>she likes to wear dark colored dresses and ride her bike in her little village.
>she likes to tell you fairytale stories in german before you go to sleep
>she likes to cook old german recipes
>she goes to church and works as an elementary school teacher

now your turn

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I said A2 , simply because assimil doesnt teach you grammar very well, for me that isnt how I like to learn but maybe it will work for you, and you do get a lot of vocabulary from assimil

>I said A2

>assimil doesnt teach you grammar very well
I don't know if it'll help, but I'm going to do Duolingo lessons along side it, will that be a good grammar tool or no?

Ive used duolingo before but just for fun never bothered reading the grammar there.

why dont you just download a college textbook of German? for me treffpunkt and wie geht's were the best and helped me get to B1

You're A0 until you write a critically acclaimed novel in your target lang

and get it published

fuck, you put something to watch and then you realize that you know absolutely nothing yet. Too many words

lads please describe ur ideal target language gf

the most important thing about language learning is motivation and goals

>not studying for girls

such is the a1-b1 master race life lad. start with baby steps, go to youtube and hear basic recordings on the appropriate beginner level

Italian grammar is confusing, there are words that can mean all kinds of different things and there are other words that mean the same things

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The lack of Swedes and Germans in this thread make me uncomfortable.

>treffpunkt and wie geht's
Which should I do first? And I assume they have both have audio to go with them right?

really either one will do, but for some reason treffpunkt seemed a little less complex and less daunting probably because it wasnt as long

and yeah

my wife chino... I WANT TO FUCK CHINO
please chino is so cute my wife chino is so cute chino chan sex chino sex with chino i'd like some more kafuu chino sex with chino kafuu chino my wife cute is so chino wife

Got into the compsci program I wanted to, what language do you guys think would be best for that field? Also thanks for helping me get a 5/5 on the AP spanish exam boys.

Haskell for sure.

C

Kek, already took that pill brother.

>swallowing the unemployed weirdo pill before even getting into college

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Found this book for a buck 50 when I was 14 and never looked back

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The same thing happens in English. You're just used to them. Look at for example the word "over"

>tayikistan
yust

Honestly, it an overrated (albeit a fine) book, but based nonetheless.

100% agree with it being overrated, it's a good book but there's so much better stuff out there

>C + Linux
has there ever been a GOATer duo

daily reminder to stop your target lang and start learning swedish

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Plan9 was God tier, but Linux was GoodEnough™. C was already in a committed relationship when Glenda came along. Too bad, he lost out on his true love.

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>C

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This is really starting to derail, so this is the last Jow Forums think I'll reply to, but C is still very alive. It's the lingua franca of compsci. Even new languages use C's ABI to communicate with each other. And the kernel is all C. If you're not running into C in some capacity every once in a while, you're a front end dev or a skiddy. You don't necessarily have to write C, but you sure as fuck should be able to read it.

>hubiera habido

I'm always here, lad.

Based and langpilled.

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wow thanks

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>when the only person on /lang/ shilling for swedish is a literal homo that wants to fuck our boy sven the cuck

such cases

>such cases
nut cases?
many such cases?
german cases?

dreams of learning pie

>he doesnt know

reading some harry potter a day keeps the monolingualism away

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I want to learn basque

that's a tough one

theres a sizable basque minority here, its not uncommon to see basque symbols here and there and every once in a while you'll hear people talking in basque.

want to be able to understand these people

Have you seen how their grammar works?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_language#Grammar

syl vs sil

Do these two really differ in pronunciation?

that's the way it's done. You should have followed their advice.

swedes speak with a funny voice

AMA

Where are the Israelis REEEEEEEEEEEEE
Do you know anything in PT? Have you ever been to Goa?

>Do these two really differ in pronunciation?
Yes? /yː/ and /iː/

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What's your native language?

lmao just go ask in their thread if they aren't here

no mena threads, no israel threads, unfortunately. I should probably get on the memetrain and learn swedish

I'm almost "finishing" my English studies, which language should be the next one?
>I know a bit of french and I would start half-way. To reach a decent level should not be an issue.
>German, This would be my fifth or sixth attempt, but I truly like it. I just can't find a way to learn it
> mandarin, I would strat from scratch

Day 1
Didnt do much today.
I thought it was pronounced ick but i was wrong

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I'm starting to get burn out

What are some common mistakes that even native speakers of your language tend to make?

Obviously English has idiots who confuse their, there, they're, and your/you're, and personally I have trouble with words like knowledgeable and privilege, even just now I gave up after 4 tries and googled how to spell it.

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What happened to their general? They used to have one, and there was a /MENA/ as well.

I never joined mena threads because I always thought it was basically /Middle East and North Africa - fuck off Israel/.
Is Swedish harder than German?

watch some cute german girls speaking

>What are some common mistakes that even native speakers of your language tend to make?
Being unable to distinguish de ("they") and dem ("them") in writing due to the widespread pronunciation of /dɔm/ for both words, resulting in the incorrect spelling of 'dom' for the words.

Another one which bothers me personally even though it's "accepted" in southern dialects is the double definite form use; for example "denna veckan" ("this week") where both the pronoun and the noun receive a definite form, which is incorrect.

Like, how fucking hard can it be to get basic shit right?
Losing cases and the more interesting yet complicated grammar was the killing blow for Swedish. No wonder it's a category 1 lang now.

/rant

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lmao

>Is Swedish harder than German?
No. German grammar is top wew in comparison to Swedish. German pronunciation is consistent however, so maybe Swedish is harder in that department maybe, I dunno. It's an individual perception of difficulty anyway.

well since the poster above you said that swedish lost cases I guess its easier. Is finnish really as retarded as it seems? I think that, as a "neighbor", you probably had to deal with finns one way or another

>ska, få, bli
I hate these verbs with a passion.

>German grammar is top wew in comparison to Swedish.
What does "wew" mean?

Are you saying swedish is actually easier than German? I found German to be pretty easy.

fuck me
I barely hear any difference between these two

>What are some common mistakes that even native speakers of your language tend to make?
Using wrong cases, incorrect gender endings, wrong stress, messing up phonetics by c;ealry pronouncing (instead of reducing) unstressed vowels.

>windows crashed again

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So...basically most mistakes a foreigner to Russian to make? WTF?

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Why is French language so difficult to learn bros? I keep forgetting words and it all just feels like a waste of time since I'm barely learning anything.
Would be pretty cool to know French or German language though.

>well since the poster above you
That was me kek
Rhere are only two regular Swedish flags in /lang/ and one of them is a Spaniard who lives in Sweden.

>Is finnish really as retarded as it seems?
Does it seem retarded? I don't speak Finnish or even tried to at any point, so I can't say anything about it. My knowledge of Finnish extends to a few glosses at most. I just think of it as Finnish. I don't really have an opinion on the language.

why? ;_;

>What does "wew" mean?
New to 4chinz, eh?

>Are you saying swedish is actually easier than German?
I think everyone in here would agree to that. I'm no authority to say though since I never tried to learn them both as a non-native in both.

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>Rhere
There*
wew

I can't do French either despite all the influence it has on English. I never had problems with Spanish or Japanese but spoken French is just too hard for me.

Because they have multiple meanings

>learn g*rman
disgusting

Yes, you got it right. The only difference is the non-native speakers make way more mistakes than russians do.

Is this guy speaking swedish? @ 1m06s

youtube.com/watch?v=FG_LmtqqinA

Yes.

He sounds different from the other people. I can't match most of what he is saying to the subtitles.

>I can't match most of what he is saying to the subtitles.
Subtitles don't match any of them 2bh kek, but I can see what you mean. Subs during his speech differ even more.

I'm burned out of translating at the moment so I'll try watching shit in English with swedish subs. Maybe it's a good idea.

Proto indo-european cases:

nomnative
genitive
accusative
dative
locative
ablative
instrumental
vocative

Proto turcic cases:

genitive
accusative
dative
locative
ablative
instrumental
directional

Proto uralic cases:

nominative
genitive
acusative
dative
locative
ablative
instrumental
lative

Remeber, these language families have nothing to do with eachother!

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There are a few words that people have problems with in certain cases (like hči-hčerka (daughter) and mati-mater (mother)) as well as using the correct standard form of the dual grammatical number. These are the result of alternate use in dialects. Then there are actual mistakes that have nothing to do with dialects, like using the wrong prepositions - using s/z and k/h before the wrong word, which is kinda bizzare to me because it sounds really obvious when you're using them the wrong way. Also, some people have trouble using genitive for some reason.

Pls stop sharing information about me. It’s just a weird feeling having someone do that when nobody even asks.

Newfag boards consisting of lost, confused redditors are bound to disappearance when its users realize they can get upvotes elsewhere.

How do you guys manage to follow those beginner materials? I find them unbearably boring.

spelling mistakes in english are understandable since the written speech lost most of it's phonetic relation with spoken speech.

what i really hate is when people say "could of/would of/should of/" instead of not realising the sound is merely contracting "have" to be " 've ". it's infuriating

That's like being bored st the sysry of s roplectosdtet.

why do complementizer phrases in german transform into subordinate clauses?

Oh, I'm sorry. I just pointed it out to illustrate that not every flag is going to be a native, which I at the time felt was a related point to the discussion about posters. Didn't mean to do anything bad.

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This bothers me as well. That, and people switching e and r in words like "perform" so it becomes "preform". Like, how is a mistake like that even possible?

based and slavipilled