Dude, it's the 21st century

>unironically idolizing retards that lived in mounds of shit and believed the earth was 6000 years old
yeah nah

Otherwise you get people who think
>Alright bootlicker.
is an argument.

What? What are you even talking about? Are amerimutts mentally ill?

That’s the thing you retards will never understand. How can opinions be formed when one subjects people to a certain opinion from their very infancy. This “education” as you say?

*gives my uneducated opinion on the Egyptian-Ethiopian Nile dispute while skateboarding by*
TRY AND STOP ME GRANDPA

From people who never seen a real war. Fucking pussies

>He doesn’t know about Christian Fundamentalist views in the 1600’s.

what is this creature

80 years ago the average IQ in your country would’ve been 70 max. Stop romanticizing the past just because you can’t accomplish anything in the present.

>>Thinking you know better than the 100 billion humans who came before you
We unironically are.

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>hurr durr you retards
>uses ad-hominem in previous post
Nice hypocrisy there

American liberalism does that to you

Neither have you, zoomer.

If traditionalists got into power they would ban my porn folder.

Can’t be having that.

Imagine actually believing this

First you acquire knowledge from different perspectives. Then you build on that knowledge. You question what you learned using your critical thinking skills. And through those questions and answers you gain a deeper understanding of what's going on and can actually contribute to the public debate.

Or you could keep reinventing the wheel.

Imagine spewing retarded shit like “right of conquest” despite the fact that you got conquered by us. Austrians are the worst fucking posters on this site I swear to god.

>might makes right

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unirronically, american media.

I don’t want them finding my Midna porn.

Guaranteed 100% of the Jow Forumstards that go around saying stuff like “degenerate” and “traditional family values” have a trap folder.

So, no argument then? Alright, Mr Big Balls

>unuronically american media
t. never went to school

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That reminds me of when I bumped into a Neo Nazi discord back in 2016 and one of the mods had Flowey the Flower porn.

>discord
Just a entirely new form of trash

I don’t argue with the mentally challenged.

Oh sorry daddy. I’m so sorry for using applications you don’t approve of. Please spank me.

You didn't argue against yourself though

American and american-christian kumbaya values made that type of thinking commonplace. It'll unravel sooner or later though.

>right of conquest!
>only the strong should live!
>where do I derive these moral imperatives?
>uhhh

t. has no grasp of reality

I'll gladly report you for missing a discord loicence

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In the Netherlands we have a new politician, who used to teach at a university. And he sometimes changes his stance if new arguments are brought up. And the other politicians think that's hilarious. How can a politician change his mind in the light of new arguments?

Harder!

Actually IQ levels worldwide are falling.

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History. The strongest and/or the most intelligent always came out on top. No
amount of false peace can change this

Right, because unlike austrians I’m not schizophrenic.

Real convincing statement there.

The only pursuit worth following is our desires.

you are seriously very stupid

[citation needed]

>import people with a lower IQ
>how could it be that the IQ scores are dropping?
>environmental factors?
This trend has been going on for thousands of years already now though. Before agriculture people were supposedly smarter than they are now. First we had a period with a low protein diet. Then people with bad genes started surviving and procreating. And humans have becoming more efficient (which means you lose traits you don't use).

>[citation needed]
Oh so now you think we’re on wikipedia? Guess you’ve got dementia too.

>>where do I derive these moral imperatives?
from your dna

Cool. Am I glad your opinion is just as worthless as mine, internet intellectual

What does false peace even mean? How many people do you see dying in war in today's times compared to back in the day? How many people do you see dying of disease? Dying before 60? Getting tortured or lynched? You want to turn the modern world into 3rd world countries where they all think exactly like you do.

>being this much of a newfag
upvoted!

>th-that's the way things have always been!

It’s like people who come here don’t even read the stickies anymore.

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I really don't. Stop twisting words to fit your narrative. Wars must be fought from time to time. It's just the truth.
>What is false peace
Forced peace after a war that will make tensions rise overtime. The european interwar period or postwar Iraq were good examples of this. Everyone knew that the first world war wasn't the end, especially with how unequal the treatment of some of the losing powers was. Tensions in Iraq's society were at a boiling point just a few years after the war and when ISIS came around it got even worse

We have nukes to prevent any real major war

LACK OF WAR

>gender equality
good old war will demonstrate to entire population why men and women arent equal, women cant haul 50 kilo heavy machineguns (or their tripods, lmao) uphill for 3 days without sleep
>faggot, trans, and biological unreproductive 'people's rights
good old war would make it obvious you want to feed biologically reproductives only, not enough food for everyone, so you feed those who will produce next generations, post war economy will require baby boom to rebuild civilian stuff, war will require new cannon fodder every generation, etc
>bullshit jobs like carrying food from kitchen to the table, fashion, etc
good old war economy eliminates bullshit sector out of economy on day 1
guy working aeronautics gets paid instead of some gay singer or sports baller because aeronautics matter
>open borders nonsense
these retards get shot pretty quickly because they get sent to the borders, now called fronts
"hur duur what is borders duude its just imaginary lines"
not when you have to sweat digging out trenches, digging out latrines, cutting down trees for supports so earth doesnt cave in on you and buries you alive when artillery hits, front making skills and "dude whats borders lmao" leftist retards realize quickly how valuable every meter of ground is when you spend 100 lives to get it

basically war will solve all culture related problems
this utter nonsense culture westerners have now exists because it was in the peace bubble for too long, and bubble bursts sooner or later

Cringe

You're dumb. It's just more convenient and profitable for people to work together. Nothing has fundamentally changed from 300 years ago to now. When it stops being convenient things will change. Like the greater animosity between the US and Europe despite us being strong allies 30 years ago.

>m-morality

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>basically war will solve all culture related problems

Clearly it doesn’t. We bombed you into oblivion and you’re still a cultureless shithole that nobody wants to associate with.

He's right though

>tf
>tp

Those Germans sure showed you that, didn’t they.

Dude what’s borders lmao

Nukes aren't the entire story. It's also pretty much logistically impossible to invade the USA currently. Not to mention there would be nothing to gain. It won't be until the age of robots and drones kick in that a hot war becomes viable again.

But that's also exactly why your politics are paranoid about Chinese and Russian influence. The Chinese and Russians are constantly spying on the USA, infiltrating your institutions and waging economic warfare. Even funding protest groups that damage the unity of your society. And the west isn't prepared for that at all, due to the open nature of our society. Which is both our greatest strength and our greatest weakness.

You still haven’t demonstrated any prescriptive morality derived from those assertions

FPBP

So every peace?
It’s not real peace unless it lasts forever?

I'm more annoyed that people think when a war occurs it can be waged humanely and itll end quickly. Wars only end quickly when one side completely blows the fuck out of the other side and doesnt care about collateral damage.

Might makes right is the cringiest, most babby tier philosophy out there

>>it's a new era, wars don't exist anymore dood
literally can not wait for the sundering.
How long now? a few years?

It's true that worrying too much about collateral damage does hurt the war effort. And makes some resistance fighters nearly impossible to stop. It becomes especially problematic when you try to occupy an area. Which is why we currently try to bribe the leaders in areas which we try to occupy.

But against conventional military forces whether or not you accept collateral damage doesn't matter that much. In the past it simply wasn't possible to use precision weapons. And now we can do a lot more damage with precision weapons, than the military forces were able to do in the past with conventional weapons.

Except I did.
No, this is very contextual. For example, most of Europe's ethnic and interpolitical conflicts have been solved since WWII. Meanwhile the middle east is a hotbed for all of the aforementioned conflict potentials and until they actually sort out their problems by either solving it peacefully (won't happen) or waging war and sorting their shit out, nothing will change. Countries like Afghanistan will completely fall apart at some part. Their "peace" is nothing but a painful status quo in limbo and the ethnically divided nation most likely won't prosper in its current state

>Thinking you know better than the 100 billion humans who came before you

Well they are all dead and I am alive

It's also the reality in most cases. Because international law only exists as long as countries are willing to abide by it. And it's often not in the interest of large countries to follow international laws, when they can simply force things to go their way.

>Except I did.
No you didn’t. Just pointing out that something is the case doesn’t prove it ought to be the case.

based

>I can't be arsed to open a history book, so pleasy spoonfeed me!

might is right is THE ONLY philosophy that makes ANY sort of sense of the world

>politics
why do you listen to politicians, because they have some special friendship powers? because of some mystic magic aura?
fuck no, international treaties and summits get called and signed on the second one country demonstrates some sort of military capability that the other one cant do
>diplomacy
any diplomacy not from the position of strength is worthless
pax romana, longest peace in europe ever, was possible because of roman legions
gaddafi got all the un promises and world leader promises he will have peace if he dismantles his weapons programs, ukraine got those promises too when it inherited soviet weapons, and now they are both war torn shitholes... meanwhile nations that didnt disarm like north koreans remain uninvaded

this world of atoms and gravity doesnt work on ballot box mysticism, things wont happen just because you voted for them, there are no magical scrolls or pergaments or documents or constitutions, no words of coffin deadmen or quotes of some rotting cadavers
might is all there is to it

Not even worth replying to him, dude. He’s pants-on-head retarded.

seething

Murder has always existed and most likely always will. This doesn’t make it right.

That's a very simplistic way of looking at it. Strength is important, but the strength of the people is bigger than the strength of one individual person. That is why you can't go out and just murder people, because society will punish you for it. But at the same time, the government doesn't have ultimate strength either, historically it has been shown that corrupt governments get overthrown and replaced by governments that respect the people, because the PEOPLE have power. i.e. democracy, you dip shit.

It's not about being right. It's just the reality of things
>democracy always works and is always stable and representative of the people
The middle east, central asia and africa would like to have a word with you

The Netherlands has won most of its historical wars with money. Money buys both militaries and alliances. If you have money everyone becomes your friend.

There are no people in Africa, Central Asia and the Middle East.

There were many people who thought the world was older than 6000 years in the antiquity and it was even part of the debate between the early christians. It ended up gaining acceptance among some christians with arguing not to take the creation account literally and considering it a waste of time.

Valid point

No.

The only crime is getting caught. Its not murder that all prisoners have in common. Its not theft. Hell its not even being guilty.. there are historical examples of innocent people doing hard time or even getting executed.
What every prisoner has in common, the only thing we can use to define a prisoner, is someone who got caught.

And the masses arent right just because they are the masses. In iron age and medieval times you had few dudes on horses like knights massacring whole villages, you had that coup in turkey and coups all over africa and where ever where torch and pitchfork masses raise up just to get ran over by tanks and blown up by howitzers. Africa especially is famous for this, hence where "african style coup" comes from in military terminology, punishable by death in most countries for all staff officers, high command, everyone above information/signals/communications officers basically.

I think the foundation of every government is that it protects its people. That's where the monopoly on violence comes from. And people respect that, as long as they are protected. Most revolutions also happen after a war, as the government hasn't been able to protect the people.

A government doesn't necessarily have to be a democracy for that. But if you use any form of power, then you are responsible for what you did with that power. That's where a democracy comes into play. It's basically a lightning rod, by making people themselves responsible (on paper).

In theory democracy comes from the people, but in reality democracies are usually implemented from the top down by a certain elite.

There is no reason why a God wouldn't be able to create the world as it is now. The world might as well be 5 minutes old, while it appears ancient to us.

>but in reality democracies are usually implemented from the top down by a certain elite.

What did he mean by this

In the Dutch republic we had provinces that couldnt vote. And only rich people were allowed to vote.
Only after the commie uprisings in Russia they figured it might be smart to let everyone vote.

calm down adolf b4 i smack u down, feel me YTboy?