Rurik? Was Swedish

Rurik is a fictional character

Rurik was Italian-American.

Rurikids ruled Russia until 17 century
JUST

Rurik was from Tensta

What if Rurik was a girl?

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I am a russian viking

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I'm going to draw this now. Expect Rurik-Chan in 3 days

Cool it with the memes. Facts have proven that he was a Finn. Haplogroups have proven it. Finns ruled Sweden and Russia, get over it.

My ancestor :)
t. pure varangian phenotype

Probably, doesn't matter. Swedes have Finnish ancestry

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Rurik was a Finn.

uhm sweaty, it's finns that have swedish ancestry

Ehurm, actually some people who claimed to be his ancestors who lived about 200 years after him had a certain haplogroup but it doesn't prove anything.

Thank you, Swede user

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It might take less time because I don't have to go to uni tomorrow

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was he really real? he is in my family tree but could be larp

it absolutely proves much more than anything you have. With the knowledge we have, there is no choice but to accept the fact that Rurik was a Finnish man.

Just look at Swedish DNA, why do you have more Finn in you than we have Swede in us?
Did we colonize you? NO?? NO??? THen how does it make sense to your brainlet ass? SWEDE? WE ARE YOUR ANCESTORS WE ARE YOUR KINGS YOUR GODS. YOU WORSHIP US!!! SWEDE KEK. YES RURIK WAS A FINN. YES WE RULED OVER YOU. YES WE FINN'D YOUR WOMEN MORE THAN YOU SWEDE'D OURS. YES WE ARE STRONGER THAN YOU. YES WE KILLED VIKINGS. YES WE WERE VIKINGS. YES WE ARE SMARTER THAN YOU. YES WE ARE THE ANCESTORS OF EUROPE.

I normally engage in these kinds of discussions, but I'll leave you to it this evening. They usually can get quite toxic and I don't want to engage in rude insults today. I hope that you have a nice evening.

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I have a model for you. What do you think?

youtube.com/watch?v=ywHSYPRbe18

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Ruhrreich was an Ashkenazi Jew from the Rheinland.

Very cute girl

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Yeah because you have ZERO facts to support your claim that he was Swedish and I have all the facts in the world to support that he was Finnish. You retard.

>Just look at Swedish DNA, why do you have more Finn in you than we have Swede in us?
You are proving that Rurik was a Swede

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No, retard, I am proving that Sweden used to be a Finnish land, Rurik was a Finn as were all the nobles in Sweden at the time. HIS HAPLOGROUP PROVES IT!

Whatever makes you feel better user :)

Rurik was a black woman.

Rurik was proto-Ukr
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>I'm proving that Rurik was a Finn because Swedes have Finnish genes

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RETARD
WHY DO THEY HAVE SO MANY FINNISH GENES?
HOW WOULD THAT BE POSSIBLE UNLESS FINNS WENT TO SWEDEN?
TO RAPE SWEDISH WOMEN?
HOW?
FINNS DONT HAVE SWEDISH GENES!

Thank you all for giving us another reason to annex you.

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Just asked a historian, he told me Rurik most definitley was Swedish.

What about Varangian guard? Maybe Finnish?

Rurik was frankish

Rurik was a gay sailor from Somalia

tas rite cr*cka

Rurik was a Norseman(Norwegian/Swedish/Danish). Definitely not a F*inn.

Germanic people ruled the Slavs, they operated with a caste system. Even to this day you can see the Nordic/Germanic element in the Russian nobility/upper class that is not present in the rest of the Russian Slavic population(99% are Slavic, 1% Nordic).

Sad to say, but Russians of course will deny the fact that we civilized them. You are welcome.

Primary Chronicle, archeology, norse names of rulers (Rurik, Igor, Oleg), etc. Rurik was a Swede. The Finns lived in the forests until the 20th century and had no influence on history.

You really are STILL missing my point? I am saying the ELITE of SWEDEN was FINNISH genetically! As proven by haplogroups!

Not a chance. The Swedes successfully assimilated a few of the viable Finns that they conquered and ruled. Finns are totally useless as civilization creators on their own, as proven by Finnish history were 99% of famous "Finns" are Fennoswede. Even today, the cultural and scientific elite of Finland is mostly Swedish in origin.

Why do the Swedes have so much Finnish DNA, cunt?
If Finns can't create a civilization, WHY THE FUCK ARE WE #1 HAPPIEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD? HUH SVEN? WHY?

All of Norrland and Lappland is basically just Finns that we conquered. If you look at the Swedish heartlands then there is very little Finnish DNA. Of course the Finns living in Norrland have Finnish DNA mostly, they're Finns after all. But culturally Swedish now. Gustav Vasa had haplogroup I1 and so did all his descendants. Erik Segersäll also had I1 which implies the other Ynglings also carried that same haplogroup.

There are many happy people in the world, but you are incapable of scientific discovery and have no ability for art.

>Why do the Swedes have so much Finnish DNA, cunt?

All people share more or less same DNA lol. It doesn't proof nothing.

WHAT HAPLOGROUP DID RURIK HAVE?

i.imgur.com/bj2mPIt.jpg
Sweden. Denmark. Finland. We all made it. WHERE IS NORWAY?

Finns dont share Swede DNA despite being conquered by them!

Nobody knows. They have not been able to find out. All we know is that people who claimed to be his descendants 200+ years after his death carried haplogroup N1c.

>norwegian siding with swede
skummel og rart

THEY DID FIND OUT.
THEY FOUND OUT THAT HE WAS FINNISH.

The element in your picture with the Finnish flag was discovered by a Swedish man living in Finland. Thanks for proving my point.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johan_Gadolin

Literally the entire Finnish history is the history of Swedish men living in a nation of savages they eventually civilized. You are welcome.

Swedes and Norwegians are the same people.

He was a Finnish man from a Finnish family born in Finland living in Finland which at the time was a part of Sweden.

>W-Why the name then ??? Finns can't have gay names!!
He was a part of a priest family. Finnish priest families took names like that.
He wasn't even a Fennoswede, so you're just pathetic and a liar. Finns ruled over Swedes. Finns now have the greatest country in the world. I bet that upsets you, doesn't it? Norway is always ranked below Finnland. You just have to settle for being #2. Cuck.

ITT: haploautism

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Pюpчo was a famous bulgarian raider and king, stop stealing our history please.

>All of Norrland and Lappland is basically just Finns that we conquered.
No, they're mixed as fuck. You don't know your own country

No, his father was a Swede born in Sweden and his mother was Swedish too. There is no such thing as a Finnish person in the history of science or anything else for that matter in Finland before the 20th century.

You don't even know your own history because you want to ignore the fact you do not exist in the context of cultural or scientific worth until the 20th century with Swedes spending 800 years peacefully civilizing you. You are still incapable of scientific discovery and art but at least modern society gives you the ability to maintain what was given to you with a small Swedish elite in your country.

Rurik was a black lesbian woman get on with the times

You don't have a source for your retarded claim do you? No. You don't because it's not true.

These fuckers actually respond to this madman lmao

Memes aside, Rurik was definitely a Finn and the Varangian guard was also Finnish.

I know Finns are most likely memeing, but in case of actual autism. The only information about Rurik is contained in the Primary Chronicle. And it clearly states that he was Scandinavian, just like the rest of Varangians.
And the haploautistic study, which you all like to quote, was made on 20th century Russian nobility, who claimed to be descendants of Rurikids. But there's absolutely no proof that they are actually related.

It boggles my mind how the most obvious baits get so much attention. Just LOOK at this Norwegian lad go!

wtf i love Ukraine now

>Rurik? Was Swedish.
Odd, does NOT look Black.
Probably not Swedistani

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Rurik was Ukrainian

His father
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakob_Gadolin

So in reality, the only truth here is that Russians are your Finnic blood-brothers.

10-15% Svealand Swedes have haplogroup N. I don't get this Finnish haploautism at all.

THE POINT IS, RETARD, THAT SCANDINAVIAN ELITE AT THE TIME WAS GENETICALLY FINNISH.

And yeah, I also forgot. The Primary Chronicle also differentiated between Finno-Ugrian tribes and Varangians and that they ruled not only over Slavs, but Finno-Ugrians, too. So...

>I don't get this Finnish haploautism at all

It's called trolling. Or baiting. Or rusing, you name it

The father of Jakob Gadolin, Jakob Gadolinius, was a Finn who escaped to Sweden during the Russian occupation of Finland. RETARD!

>He was a part of a priest family
Swedish priest names end with -us, buddy. Gadolin is not a priest name, just saying.

According to a DNA study, Rurik, the founder of the Rurik dynasty, seems to have belonged to the Haplo group N1c1 [1]. This haplory group is the most common among the peoples of the Baltic Sea Finns, such as Finns (60%) and Baltic (40%). According to Finnish researchers, the ruler of the ruler did not belong to the Finns of the Baltic Sea, because he lacks the DYS390 = 24 mutation, which is present in the current Finns of the Baltic Sea, but he had DYS390 = 23, and this would mean that he probably belonged to a native Germanic (varangians). ]

Other genetic studies show that there are two large haplroups among the descendants of the Rurik family: the descendants of Vladimir Monomah belong to the N1c1 group (130 people, 68%) and the descendants of Prince Oleg I Chenigov (altogether 45 people, 24%) belong to the R1a and R1b groups, which are typical of haplo groups in slavs, germans and celts.

Central Russians are about as Finnic as Swedes from Stockholm area where Rurik was from. I'm really tired of your attempts to Mongolify Russians, you Turk.

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Yes, both Slavs and Baltic people are incapable of producing men of leadership and genius. It is why to this day we question why so little innovation comes east of of the Germanic nations and why they were willing to be ruled by an elite of Germanic people. The answer is obvious if you look at history but most are not willing to admit it, but they know it's true deep down.

Based partajäbä fighting alone against a battalion of seething Scandinavians and east Slavs.

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central russians are irrelevant and more mongolic than finns ever were

Gadolin comes from Gadolinius.
FAGGOT

AT WHAT TIME, you absolute autist??? There are no studies made on Rurikids of the past. Only on their supposed descendants from 20th century.

Rurik was UKRAINIAN! Why isn't that clear for you???

No it doesn't. Why are you lying? If it did, it would be Gadolinus, not Gadolinius lol.

Fascinating.

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Gotland: Prehistoric time to Viking Age

The island is the home of the Gutes, and sites such as the Ajvide Settlement show that it has been occupied since prehistory.[12] A DNA study conducted on the 5,000-year-old skeletal remains of three Middle Neolithic seal hunters from Gotland showed that they were related to modern-day Finns, while a farmer from Gökhem parish in Västergötland on the mainland was found to be more closely related to modern-day Mediterraneans. This is consistent with the spread of agricultural peoples from the Middle East at about that time.

He is just trolling, the only way a Finn can survive with the knowledge of ALL of recorded Finnish history being the story of Swedish men doing things in Finland is by nervous humor.

Well, we Finns are the original Europeans, the original whites. So we settled Finland, Scandinavia, Russia, Baltics, Germany tens of thousands of years ago. However we did not have much technology because we were nomads , we were still the elites of the world. Then Arabs had their civilization etc, then greeks, then romans. Then it spread North and the indoniggers came with Arabic technology and took our land. Of course indoniggers are not as smart as we are ( AS PROVEN BY STATISTICS) so Finns remained elites. But we mixed too much with the indoniggers and the land was eventually lost to them as we turned into them. Swedish nobility was still almost entirely Finnish in the year 1000.

Ukrainians are exist for one century only. Before it they were just provincial Russians, and earlier just Ruthenians.

>to this day you can see the Nordic/Germanic element in the Russian nobility/upper class
fucking keked mate
you really don't see a lot of current russian elites do you?
I mean I wish, but the sad reality is that opportunistic individuals of various Russian ethnic minorities are the bulk of those who rule modern Russia (and the same goes for the past 100 years as well)