Should white people pay reparations for colonization?

Should white people pay reparations for colonization?

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No

Reparations should be paid in women

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Fuck no

Yes. White women to be in place of monetary

Based

unironically based

Of course a Pajeet would say this.
Sexually depraved incels - put them in a room with a bunch of white women, guarantee rape will happen.

Post bobs and vagan.

S E E T H I N G C H I N K

Sure, as soon as Mongols and Ottomans pay up too.

those didn't try to colonize.

No, they just expanded their empire by outright annexing whatever they conquered. Which is even worse than colonisation.

yes
no
fuck off

colonization is not the same as conquering, fucktard.

Yeah, it's much less harmful. Tell me why conquerors shouldn't pay reparations but colonisers should?

Hell yeah make wh*teoids pay a fuckton for colonising
t. A fellow non colonizer

Define "white"

Yes with mirrors and necklaces LOL

conquerors didn't made up BS morality rules how they were the saviours of blacks and amerindians by enslaving them and replacing their original culture because you developed philosophical essays how they lacked souls, inteligence, morality or any kind of BS that still has social effects today.

conqueror = I rape you.
colonizer = I rape you and also kill your family but also you need to be educated because you're a low IQ retard and inferior caste, also let me steal resources for centuries so I can be richer and I put some shitty made up nations that caused civil war after you gain independance, but let me also put you in apartheid states because you're also inferior and also let me tell you you deserved it because is your fault.

Did I mention that Joseph Conrad Is based already

>Conquest is good because it rapes and pillages until the country is sent back into the stone age
>Colonization is bad because the education and advancement it provides is racist
Both exploit natural resources as much as possible and both leave shitty made up nations when they're done.
Just look at what happens after a great conqueror dies, his state breaks apart due to the power vacuum and decades of civil war ensue.

I wish my country was colonized by the british or french

Pay up Lithuania

conquerors don't make shitty caste systems that still has effects today, they don't care about your race.

white people invented the concept of racism to justify colonization.

>conquerors don't care bout your race
Oh boy do I have a 1939-1945 gem for you

why ?

Because he's dumb and or delusional

Ancient racism wasn't about your skin color, but cultural and was more like modern day japan racism.

American and european racism was invented by whites.

because they are the master race
I wish I was british/french

>conquerors don't make shitty caste systems that still has effects today, they don't care about your race.
Stop posting and go buy a history textbook.
The Roman Empire, The Ottomans(to a slightly lesser extent to be fair), The Mongols, The Rus all treated the different people they conquered like slaves. Racism is a concept as old as time and if you think the conversion to Islam under Ottoman rule doesn't have lingering effects today you really need to familiarise yourself with the world more.

Why should Irishmen, Slovaks, Latvians, Croats etc pay reparations? They never colonised anyone.
Also, reparations are paid according to peace treaties like France after 1871 or Germany after 1919, not because hurr durr your country abused my country

You can have one (1) white gf if I can have one (1) pajeeta gf.

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they considered they belong to a conquered tribe, but they never made statements about all the people that shared the same skin color.

A person of the same race but from a diferent tribe could be treated diferently, because he may spoke a diferent accent or language or had diferent customs.

Modern day concept of racism was invented by whites.

*colonizes (You)*

>implying your average indian woman looks like that

big thank

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Caked in that much makeup maybe they do

>RELIGIOUS AND CULTURAL DISCRIMINATION GOOD
>SKIN TONE DISCRIMINATION BAD
Also you're just flat-out wrong. The Islamic invasions of India in the 8th century enslaved 100k+ Indians and helped create the caste system that's still relevant today.
White people were just more efficient at what they were doing. Their ships could cross the Atlantic ocean with ease and they had a massive technological advantage over native American populations which made colonisation on a massive scale possible.

>I don't care about your grievances, unless they are my grievances
well said macaco, now fuck off

Some places like japan and China and africa were forced at gun point to modernized.

Chinese, africans and japanese didn't wanted nothing from europeans.

Europeans did dirty tricks like making chinese drug adicts so they could weaken china.

well, I guess athens were racist towards spartans, when both tribes were genetically the same.

I guess is real racism like modern day american racism.
wow.

>Imagine believing this
Also hurr durr muh mudslimes didn't conquer entire india retard
Infact slavery was prevalent only in central india

And how is this any different from the Mongols just raping and pillaging everything they came across or Ottomans dividing Europe for centuries?
>Europeans did dirty tricks like making chinese drug adicts so they could weaken china.
Your understanding of history is terrible. The British opium trade was established because China didn't want to open its markets so the brits had to find something that the Chinese wanted. Trading opium for tea was simply more convenient than immediately starting a war.
It wasn't done to "weaken china" because China was already pathetically weak compared to any western power.

So doing it is ok as long as it was done by whites?

It was also all the other shit that whites did also justified because lmao everyone was doing it?

It's murder justified because there's millions of murders?

fuck off.

We still live under the consequences of european actions.

No, but I wouldn't mind if they do

Way to miss the point, retard.
If it's OK for the Ottomans and Mongols it's OK for whites.
If it's not OK for whites then it's not OK for Ottomans and Mongols either and they should pay reparations as well.
>We still live under the consequences of european actions.
Yeah, the fact that you have electricity and an internet connection is a consequence of european actions.

Poland is niether Eastern or Western European it is [spoiler]British[/spoiler]

No we should be payed for civilising the savages.

>So doing it is ok as long as it was done by whites?
Strawman is even worse than ad hominem desu

absolutely not

this. Go back to the forest if you don't like it, monkey boy. If anyone should pay it's the subhumans, who were allowed to live in the cities and the countries of the colonizers.

Nah, its ok bro.
Let's not fight ok?

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Ottomans and mongols still don't control most of the international comunity politics.

Ottomans and mongols aren't behind all the wars since WWI.

Ottomans and mongols don't have the political power TODAY as to own the IMF.

Modern day banking capitals aren't made on the mongol empire capital nor the ottoman empire capital.

Palestine conflict wasn't the fault of mongols and ottomans.

American racial issues aren't the fault of mongols and ottomans.

Modern day african emigration to europe isn't the fault of mongols and ottomans.

Mongols and ottomans didn't bombed Vietnam, didn't bombed Lybia, didn't bombed Irak twice, didn't bombed Afganistan.

Mongols and ottomans aren't the ones telling China what to do.

Mongols and ottomans aren't the ones who want to invade venezuela.

Mongols and ottomans aren't the ones who put bases around russia and want to make WWIII.

Mongols and ottomans aren't the ones who push racial supremacy concepts on the internet.

Mongols and ottomans aren't the ones who write entire encyclopedias how everything was invented by mongols and ottomans.

Mongols and ottomans aren't the ones who try to push for gay rights on muslims and black countries in africa.

Mongols and ottomans aren't the ones who dismiss non mongol and ottoman history and archievements as inferior.

FUCK OFF.

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mongols and ottomans were beaten in a war
our countries aren't ruled by turks or tartars bc we killed them
bc we weren't whiny little weak bitches

Why do u still use shit from the middle ages to cry about how mongols and ottomans also did shitty things when all the shit I mentioned happened in the last 70 years?

>Ottomans and Mongols did what they did in the far past and were worse at it, therefore it's OK
Being effective at what you're doing doesn't make the action any better or worse.
>Mongols and ottomans aren't the ones who write entire encyclopedias how everything was invented by mongols and ottomans.
Lol, flat out wrong. Learn some history and you'll see how the Ottomans also tried to appropirate everyone else's historical achievements. They just can't do that anymore because they're irrelevant nowadays after losing both Balkan wars and WW1.

You have a massive recency bias, just because something happened in the past 100 years doesn't make it any different from shit that happened 900 years ago. The dominant culture is always going to be the most oppressive because they have the most power.
But history doesn't just include the last 300 years in which western European culture is dominant.

colonization didn't happen in the last 70 years
it happened in the middle ages, right when the turk invasion of south-eastern europe
also bunch of your whinings are non-issues like complaining about how whites invented the world, while south-americans were too much of brainlets to contribute anything

timeline.com/europeans-invented-the-concept-of-race-as-we-know-it-58f896fae625

get some historical education fucktards.

>Cultural discrimination has existed for tens of thousands of years
>But it's different when the other culture has a different skin color
Europeans were just the first with the number and quality of ships to establish cross-Atlantic travel on a large enough scale.
Naturally cultural discrimination applied to the uncivilised natives on another continent.
It's qualitatively no different from the historical discrimination against gypsies, slavs, or jews.

there is nothing wrong with the concept of the race, your problem stems from you being inferior

Yes. Fuck those wh*tes colonizing Finland.

race as a concept didn't existed before renaissance.

barbarians were always foreigners.

There wasn't a concept of white race, It was in europe the concept of I belong to this city/king/region.

Same shit happened to other places, there wasn't a concept of skin color.

>people who couldn't realistically travel far enough to encounter someone of a different skin colour didn't have a concept of skin colour
>This somehow means that less civilised cultures are inherently better because they never even got the chance to encounter a different race
Sub-60 IQ.

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> who were the Zanj
> who was Al-Jahiz
> who was Ibn Khaldun

people on fucking greek philosophers wrote entire books about the known world which included sudan, most of europe, middle east, india and even tales of china.

They knew about far away places where people of other skin colors existed, fucktard.

Timbucktu was famous in europe since medieval times, It was the african version of el dorado.

Alexander fucking marched from greece until India.

READ A BOOK NIGGER.

and when europeans met with vastly different people and then people with different physical characteristics they created new concepts of foreigners, like different races
what is exactly your problem with this, how is this different than the turkish millet system other than you being butthurt that your envisoned half of your ancestors were the losers of these wars?

people had wars and defeated each other and the victims suffered, since history exists, because this is how the world works

there was a trade between north africa and places like Mali kingdom, there was famous black muslims scholars from mali in the golden age of islam and Mali usually sent some of their scholars to meca.

fuck off.

see
You still need to use examples of shit that happened almost a millenia ago.

I'm using examples of a couple decades ago.

RETARD.

i just want to say venezuela user is based and redpilled and that the slav faggots are retarded.

there was and still is a much greater evil pursued by european colonialism because unlike the mongols/other conquerors, they actually spent decades on how to best fuck places up.

mongols just did it and went off

the same people called "whites" dumb barbarians that were good for nothing but having their women as sex slaves in muslim harems

and they saw the same differences as the later colonizers and called them "burnt" and such? The only difference is that Greeks or Romans didn't strech so far to conquer those people.
and none of those examples are anything but memes

>Extremely minimal contact unknown to the majority of the population is comparable to full-scale closs atlantic trade
You just can't make this shit up
>NIGGER
That's rich coming from a Latino.

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mongols exterminated anyone they actually could and had resistance from
if the colonizers did the same there wouldn't be people to pay reparations to
since mongols and turks were BEATEN, they didn't de-colonize and spent money to make themselves feel better
the only mistake western colonizers made is they were too soft and the gypsy-minded parasites used it to propagate their inferior kind that couldn't trumph in a struggle so relied on pity and begging

Yes, because ottomans and mongols are comparable to things that happened while most of the modern day alive white people are born.

I'm not even talking about middle ages retarded shit.

I'm talking about things that modern day ALIVE whites are to blame for.

I'm going to sleep.

>but muh ottomans, muh mongols
>yeah nigger, is comparable to thing that happened 20 years ago

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>mongols exterminated anyone they actually could
false, after they looted places they set up and turned them into financial centers to make more bux. See baghdad, tabriz and bukhara after the mongols, all flourished

as for the rest of your post i'd advise you to learn english because none of the shit you wrote made any sense.

>Unironically embracing the recency bias
You're right, colonisation was a mistake, white people should've just taken all the natural resources and left you uncivilised.

the conquest of the americas happened in the same time as the ottoman empire, you fucktard, once again
the EFFECTs of what you call white supremacy lasted longer, because unlike whites, your monkey kind was too weak to liberate themselves. In case of your shitty continent it was even the whites, the colonial whites like Bolivar and the USA, who gave a semblance of liberty to your people.

You have no right to ask for anything, because you did nothing.

>false
false
They killed the people of Baghdad, and any place that resisted. And numerous people like Old Hungarian or Volga Bulgarians, complete civilizations disappeared, Baghdad survived, because there were people there, who were their allies and were spared, and then those parts were also repopulated from other areas, same thing with Poland and Hungary. But there were many other kingdoms and people that were completely wiped from history forever.
Maybe read up on the subject and stop being a complete brainlet, before you post again.

Stop replying to Kangaroos, they're the biggest possible shitposters on this board. Just ignore it and it will go away.

>ottomans
>about middle ages retarded shit
Learn history maybe?

>You still need to use examples of shit that happened almost a millenia ago
Maybe that's because since the industrial revolution, the West has been the most advanced and successful civilisation in the world? Post-Enlightenment Western dominance has meant that human rights (which were a niche concept invented by edgy French revolutionaries) have become UNIVERSAL human rights, that the preferred value system in the world is Western humanism instead of Muslim sharia or Chinese blind obedience to the Mandate of Heaven, that the generally accepted political system is representative democracy (again, a fringe French revolutionary invention) instead of total submission to the Caliph / Emperor / Khan, that slavery is forbidden and punished everywhere instead of a core element of the economy like in Asian, African or Amerindian traditions, all that is possible THANKS to Western imperialism and Western prosperity. If anything the West should have crushed other value systems even harder, like Romans did to the Celts, such that things like the Cairo declaration wouldn't exist.

To be completely fair Americans did prop up military dictatorships in South America because the democratically elected leaders were a bit socialist.
And that was a pretty shitty thing to do, although it has absolutely nothing to do with colonialism.

And considering the global scale of colonialism completely crushing every other value system was not really feasible, setting up local governments controlled by the colonial power was a lot more efficient than full conquest.

Whether or not white people should pay reparations is immaterial - white people won't pay them so we just have to deal with it.

We gave u jesus it is enogh

>Muh european values
Yes, the same values that make whites unable to stop non white inmigration to white nations and make an entire field of academia dedicated to destroy and deconstruct any hope of racial pride.
Now your race demographics are so fucked whites Will become as numerous as pure blood amerindians worldwide.
Wow.

Did u know europe needs 30 milion workers by 2030?

You know, the middle ages can arguably be determined to be between the "fall of Rome" to the industrialization period.

> Western racism is bad, there was no skin colour based racism before Columbus!
> fuck the West, fuck whites (I mean pure-blooded whites, because one drop rule because reasons) who are getting extinct, fuck their lack of pride in being racially pure
Make up your mind user

no

Can't speak for the eastern blok but we were heavily involved in assisting your colonization and we were vital in Britain's oppression of other peoples whether indio, indian or african. We SHOULD have to pay reperations unironically.

pay denbts
now