At what age the women of your country hit ‘the wall’?

JUST

14/15

They've finished their degree/committed to a career and there's a lot of pressure at 30 to find a man
After 40 they know things are fucked, biological clock isn't fair but it exists

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Could you explain?

It's built in misogyny.
And fertility issues start in mid 40s.
And it is exactly the same for men.
Old sperm is worthless and then the blanks come

>And it is exactly the same for men.
>Old sperm is worthless and then the blanks come
This is one of those redpills a lot of people in these types of threads tend to ignore.

>= 11 == 10/10

>Old sperm is worthless and then the blanks come
Completely wrong, go learn basic biology

At that age they've realized that they won't be CEO and a life of making spreadsheets awaits her, she's also not spent any time forming healthy bonds with the opposite sex due to 1). Working 2). preferring shallow, flings due to being brainwashed by society into thinking they're just like men and can fuck just like men. 3). Their beauty starts to fade and that tiny hole they've been plugging up to hide that fact becomes a giant one that gets harder and harder to fill be that with make-up or validation in the form of DICK. They often go into trad-thot realm at about this age, not fully committing but understanding the value of children/family but are already to far gone to commit to anyone

You should look up the risks associated with paternal age. And it's true, an older man can sometimes shoot blanks due to age.

>Old sperm is worthless and then the blanks come
I don't think it works like that

wow, incel bingo time?

16, that's why we have to fuck them while they are 11.

kek

They can shoot blanks with age but the sperm quality, assuming they're not blanks, is just as good as a guy in his 20s. It's really not uncommon at all to have good sperm until death

“The wall” is cope

Incel is a term used by incel weirdos or as we use to call them white knights or as I call them future sexual harassers

That's distinctly not true.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paternal_age_effect
Just a quick easy summary. You can find more if you google it.

SEETHING wh*Te roastie

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Depends ob lifestyle but 28 seems right to uni educated people. Dead end jobs also makes them wake up and leave their child fantasies behind

She's right, even past the wall a woman can still get laid, tons of men like milfs/matures, go to any porn site. The same can't be said of incels regardless of their age, and hot young women don't lust after old men the way some like to think (another cope).

It’s literally just “getting old” but redpill autists have a constant need to reinvent the wheel

I see. That sounds too specific and personal. It doesn't really represent everyone. But glad I asked.

>hot young women don't lust after old men the way some like to think (another cope).
things must be different in america because the reality I've seen doesn't match your statement unless you meant 70+ year old men

If you think a hot 20-25 year old girl will prefer a 50 year old man to a Chad her own age you are coping hard

It might be that it varies by location, I should have said that. But yeah younger women here don't want older men unless it's to bleed them of money and treat them like shit. I've worked with older men who divorced their wives and thought they'd have an easy time dating, turns out they didn't and just lost thousands of dollars to be treated like shit and cheated on.

And I should have said something like because it's true, even in other countries I have to think women want older men for money, not because they're really attracted to them.

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I'm 30, 7/10 face 8/10 unshaven after a cut, I lift and do martial arts, probably 8/10 overall. I get the majority of my female attention from 16-22 year old girls. I had one the other day giving me 'the look' and she couldn't have been a day over 16. Probably 14 or 15. Young women thirst like a race horse in the desert.

That's called having a crush user.
Also people thought I was 16 and I'm mid 20s. Unless you know their age you'll fill in the blanks because that's what men do, they always think every girl is flirting with them. "Does twirling he hair means she likes me? Does looking at me means she wants to date me?" Lol.

Damn this is some concentrated roastie cope. It's just a fact that men prefer younger women and men women prefer older men.

Hot young woman sleep with men in their late 30's and 40's all the time without any sort of compensation.

At this point no one wants to work for what men before them got for free.

those "hot young women" you're talking about, are sluts. nobody cares about those mentally deranged walking insults to women

This. The only reason a girl would ever even look at an older guy is if he has money.

>She's right, even past the wall a woman can still get laid
You're fundamentally misunderstanding women if you think they derive their value and self-worth from getting laid.

The wall is not about fucking, but about moving down in the social ladder. The walls makes no claims of not being able to get laid--and no sane person would think that--but instead says women can no longer acquire the men that meet their expectations

It's simply pointing out that the illusion of pseudo-celebrity status begins to fade, and women begin to be ignored by those their "princes" to their princess story, and begin to have to settle for less.

There will always be a men out there to fuck a woman. Provide them with money, etc. To argue against that is stupid because the goal of sex is a guy thing not the other way around, and if it were the case society would look a whole lot different.

I'm willing to bet you look younger, women of all ages like men in their twenties, or those who look like they do (and 30 is still young). I was really referring to 45 year old men thinking they're going to get hot 18 year olds and finding out the harsh, bitter truth.

The majority of male energy is centered around fucking these women. They'll debase themselves just to even orbit these thots. Men don't hate hot sluts they hate hot sluts fucking everyone else.

First of all, that has nothing to do with sluts with daddy issues fucking older guys

Second of all, you're confusing yourself with "the majority of male energy"

Sure if you're an ugly loser at 20 you'll likely be an ugly loser at 45.
Doesn't change the fact that being older is an advantage for men in a way it isn't for women, for reasons that go beyond wealth.

It really isn't, dude

There are entire billion dollar industries created for horny men, and in these industries younger hot women are consistently the ideal.

It really is, and only a delusional coping woman would say otherwise. Men and women have different societal standards when it comes to attractiveness, and age is treated differently for both groups.

>It really isn't, dude
then why do zoomers keep bitching about old guys "stealing" their girls

I can mind fuck all the white knights and females ITT with a simple question and send their minds rushing to that hamster wheel for that sweet, sweet rationalization.

Why do women date older men?
inb4 "not all women" muh exception-to-the-rule muh generalizations-are-all-wrong

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I'm aware that outside of fetish genres the porn industry generally hires younger women. What does that have to do with anything. Don't tell me just because there's a hot young girl on a beer ad that you think that means "the majority of male energy" is geared towards fucking the bill board

They'll say money while ignoring the fact that in a vacuum a bum younger guy will get less pussy than a bum older guy.
A bum older man is specifically more likely to get pussy much younger than him.

Maybe because the teenage twitter "incel community" of 250 guys is 18 years old and considers someone 22 to be "older"? Not sure dude, you may aswell be asking why Thanos doesn't have a girlfriend

Yeah it's different, but guys don't "age like wine"

Because 30 is only 3 years older than a 27 year old female. You realize we aren't talking about a few years, but decades wide age gaps right chump?

I think 28 is when things really go sour with some individual variation. But looks aren't everything anons.

SLAM DUNK!

>nooo girls dont ever like boys its JUST a """crush"""

lol women cope so hard its unreal. I actually feel sorry for your gender. You have to spend all your time playing this fake persona like you dont fart and this and that is 'creepy', it must get exhausting. Just say it like it is... you want a hard dicking from a young age. There. Liberation. You're welcome.

25-30 is not uncommon to date 18-20. The reality is women value things older man have i.e. status, money, experience. way more than what men value: physical beauty.

This is why old bitches are way, way more useless than old niggas. At least old niggas can fix a car and have physical strength an old bitch is just a nag who don't look good any more. It's not rocket science as to why you don't have to cope so much

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>a 5 year age gap
>older guy
you're coping hard to try and make it seem like 18 year olds are dating 45 year old guys, when you know that's clearly not the case and girls frequently balk at even that much of a gap

Listen I know your dumb roastie brain is coping on another level but it's not about men aging well. It's about the society (at least in the west) deeming the most attractive aspects of a woman being tied to her as a young adult, while for men it's other things. So the drop off is way more brutal for women than it is for men. Men, don't have the same drastic drop off in fertility too.
You can try to deflect by bringing up examples of 50+ year old men, but that doesn't change the fact that a late 30s/40s yo man can get women decades younger than him easier than if he were close to their age.

uhhh sweetie? are you sure you know what "older" means?

45 yos can fuck 18 yos, not date them. Why do women think men see LTRs as some holy grail, that's just pure projection on the women's part.

It's like she thinks men put a lot of stock into appearance.

Men cultivate themselves beyond that out of necessity. We aren't born with an inherent place in society.

They don't understand that sex is a physical urge for males, they tie it in with emotions.

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>The reality is women value things older man have i.e. status, money, experience.
Atomic cope
All that EVER matters is looks. looks fade as you age
take the blackpill

if this was true the incel community wouldn't exist, because they would all just hire hookers

Fuck why did god think it would be funny to invent aging

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Not him, but of course looks matter.
But lets be honest, if it did, then why are Arabs/Muslims still get white pussy, since they all look like they faces beaten in with a shovel and eyebrows that would make a hairy ape blush.

Humans are meant to die, user.
Aging is normal. Some just age better than others.
In the end, what matters is the journey.

So, stop being a basement dweller and live your life better. Be healthy, eat merry, get white pussy and sleep well.

I'd also add they start looking worse by 18

So 17 is the cutoff for maximum beauty

Lol you're such a dishonest person. You know damn well actual incels are usually young and not fully independent. Buying a hooker is not in the purview of the socially awkward and inexperienced

The incel community, while not realizing it, values status, not love or LTRs. Which is why they won't accept being a provider betabux because they have to win women like Chad or Brad.
Incels are a spin off of the PUA community, which is intensely focused on upping their status by the means of seducing hot women.

Incel is the new word for perceived misogyny, no one actually knows what it means

lol I'm sorry for whoever hurt you user

uhh, do you know what we were discussing ITT retard?

I mean the fact you use emotionally driven buzzwords says it all. If you were so sure about your claim you wouldn't need to be defensive over it.

Please be mentally well and take care.

Everyone's hurt, it's only women who make a big deal out of it and throw a hissy fit when they're older because they can no longer get their way, and a life spent of no one telling them how things are--not even their own fathers--leaves them unprepared so they invent boogeymen like the patriarchy, incels and such to rationalize it and as a result poison the well, so to speak by indoctrinating other younger, prettier girls out of spite.

Like I said before, women are tragic creatures. I can't hate them but just pity them. "whoever hurt you" is shaming tactics 101 living in a house hold full of women has taught me it's pretty much something you say when you're stumped.

women went downhill at a speed of sound once they're fully developed

Age in itself doesn't make men attractive, other factors do (namely money).

They really can't for the most part. This is absolute cope on your part.

>throws a hissy fit

Ok sure user, take care

>"whoever hurt you" is shaming tactics 101 living in a house hold full of women has taught me it's pretty much something you say when you're stumped.
I knew a turbo feminist (on the internet) that resorted to that all the time. She had fucked like five guys out of our tiny video game streaming group, then went on to call at least two of them "bigots" later on. What a fucking joke of a person.
No, I didn't fuck her, most of the group members were in an another country.

11-13 > oh shit she's getting hot
14-17 > sizzling, I need that pussy now
18-22 > primo, legal and still top choice
23-26 > ehhh good enough
27-30 > ok if drunk, cut off all contact after banging, radar on high alert for baby talk, issues, commitment stuff
31-39 > the odd anomalous milf/mature bangable, need to use fake name so she cant find you and kill you
40+ > senior citizen. total psychos, ragged pussy, maybe if you're blind and paralyzed.

late teens to early 20s

I'm dying SK english teacher. Thanks for the bitter passive aggressive cope posts. Going to bed now, have a good night :)

I know you're still here because you have to get the last word, let's just wait and see.

Immediately after high school.

>this is what incels actually believe
shouldn't you be making OC for your GamerGate board on infinitechan?

That’s pretty accurate.

>incel community
but you are sort of right. I wouldn't be betabux for a landwhale, porn is preferable to that.

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>when woman realize herself she get hit old wall
????AD - 1900's : 18-20 (thats why they married around that ages)
1990-current year: mostly 30-35

>when men become invisible by woman
most woman say around 39. but for most young as teens it might even 23-25.

sure you can "disprove" me by post some exceptions like celebs etc, but read again my "most" word above.

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based syrup-slurper telling how it is

Leftypol roastie cope seethe is real