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Election day edition

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Can't wait for Zehut to not win.

Zehut is getting no less than 6 mandates, mark my words.

today i picked up some bell peppers at the supermarket but they said "product of Israel" on them so i put them back

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The intel chip in your PC has parts made in Israel so you better take that out as well

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no wonder why intel is shit

no wonder why intel is shit

>your pc
top kek

I hope Hamas hid a bomb in every ballot box

Hi cousin

Hi neighbor!
Did you tell muslim brotherhood to fuck off today?

which party supports BLACK rights and TURKish supremacy?

צאו להצביע, קקות

יש תור למי יש כוח

עוד שעתיים לא יהיה

hello ireland and israel are friends

first for bibi

الموت لإسرائيل

don't y'all really like the palestinians?
porn license

why are you lads so mean to palestine? can you just be frens??

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>tfw working on election day in a part time job gives 200% because it's a free day
>tfw work in low level tech support when 2/3 of the company have a day off so there's no work
>get mad dosh for watching netflix with a coworker for almost 9 hours while getting paid as if it's 18 hours

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SEETHING mudshit

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ask Geert Wilders m8 he has Israel's back

>get mad dosh
מה?
מה זה Dosh?

They were mean to us first

₪₪₪₪₪₪

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no, you were mean to them first by invading their homeland

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What's the chance to netanyahu wins?

Fairly high, also I'm in the mood for walls of text so I'll explain.
In Israel we use proportional representation, it means every citizen votes directly (without district horseshit like in America and other countries) and those votes are then used to determine how many seats in the Knesset (Israel parliament) that party gets out of 120.
Also should be noted small parties need to get more than 4.25% (IIRC) of the votes or they're not getting in at all.
If no party gets more than 60 seats (which will 100% happen as it always does) a coalition needs to be formed, this is how it's done:
The president will meet with all parties and ask them who they recommend be given the task of assembling a coalition, they can nominate any party but everyone usually goes with the big 2 contenders. (with the exception of the arab parties that always nominate themselves on principle), this vote's strength depends on how many mandates (aka seats in the knesset) they got after the election.
(theoretically the president could give this task to anyone but in practice his hands are tied to whoever gets the most recommendations, kind of like how the queen of Britain can theoretically do plenty of things but in practice would never do them because then everyone would think 'well, do we REALLY need her around?')
The leader who is tasked with forming a coalition will then try to assemble a coalition of 61 seats in the knesset or more with the other parties.

Here's the twist in this election, Blue-white (the big opposition party led by former chief of staff Beni Gantz) has more mandates in the polls than the likud (anywhere between 2-5), but by all predictions if Blue-White can't get more votes than anticipated The Likud will have more mandates willing to nominate him for the task of forming a coalition, meaning the biggest party will be left in the opposition.
The right wing bloc has more seats than the center-left bloc, so it will probably win.

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Based

Meretz, the official party of the Ashkenazi Khazar warriors

100%
Bibi will die as PM

it's 3.25%

>The leader who is tasked with forming a coalition will then try to assemble a coalition of 61 seats in the knesset or more with the other parties.
Another clarification; in the event that the nominated leader can't form a coalition within a set amount of time (I want to say 2 weeks? but I'm not sure) the task will be given to the second most nominated party and then THEY will attempt to form a coalition.
This has happened before, and while it doesn't seem likely in these elections it's worth keeping in mind.

Netanyahu's victory feels inevitable to me because he has more 'natural' partners than the opposition, right wing parties, far right wing parties and the religious parties will always nominate him and know that if they don't go with him, they stay in the opposition.
This is a double edged sword, because it means those smaller parties can extort more from Netanyahu in exchange to helping him form a coalition, who probably doesn't want to play chicken too much with his partners after last elections, where he barely assembled a 61 mandates strong coalition, literally the minimum that's enough.

Gantz (the opposition leader) would have to not only rally the left wing and the center, but he'd also need to steal a party or two from Netanyahu's sphere of influence, this can only be done with very tempting offers as it's politically very dangerous, the right wing voters of a right wing party that chooses to 'defect' will remember this next election and may run off to a different party.

right, cheers.

>(I want to say 2 weeks? but I'm not sure)
50 days

>Autisimyahoo gonna win again
The hell is wrong with you people

right again, cheers again.

And since I'm procrastinating studying and have taken the role of king of knowing shit, I'll add another interesting bit.
This time the voting turnout in the Arabic population is very low, around 20%.
Most of these who don't vote (and a lot of those who do vote but don't vote to the arabic parties) do it because they say they're dissatisfied with the Arab parties, who seem to be busier with being provocative little shits and with Palestinians in the west bank and Gaza than with the welfare of the Arabic population in Israel (about a fifth of Israel's citizens are Arabic).
This is an interesting change to last elections where a union of the arabic parties (that came about as a response to the raised rejection threshold) came up as the third largest party in the knesset.
Now the Arab parties split again to two separate unions, only one has a realistic chance of getting in and even that one is uncomfortably close to the rejection threshold, only time will tell if they'll be looking at that threshold from above or below.

It's an interesting election, an opposition leader that spent half the campaign not revealing his stance on literally anything, Netanyahu encouraging the far right parties to unite so the right wing bloc doesn't lose mandates, a newcomer party that is both very libertarian and calls for the annexation of all of the west bank and all of gaza, and the Arab community in Israel basically going "fuck this"

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Я зa гaнцa

Mak me King o Israel an ye'll be walthie

Some extra info:
In about an hour, the exit polls come out, though last year they were inaccurate. Plus, soldiers and diplomats have their votes counted a day late, asnd there are enough of them to effect the final results

Will Bibi actually annex the WB or what that just "vote for me" shit talking?

The latter

That's hard to say.
The man doesn't really have ideals anymore, he just goes with whatever grants him the most political success, so if that's where the wind blows, he might.
It should be clarified he's not talking about annexing *all* of the west bank (yet, anyway), but the big settlement blocks, so we're not talking about a full blown military takeover of the palestinian authroity, just applying Israeli law to well established settlements.
My guess would be "no", because while he's not an international favorite he knows better than to push the boundaries with America, unless he knows something we don't I doubt he'll keep testing Trump's kindness, especially since Trump is insanely good to Israel and from the Obama administration onward the Democratic party is definitely less tolerant and friendly towards Israel.
Trump gave Israel a LOT of good shit (recognition of Jerusalem as the Israeli capital and recognition of Israeli annexation of the golan hights among other things), I can't help but wonder when and how he'll expect us to return a favor.

>no annexation
>no independent Pali state

so occupation forever? doesn't that get expensive?

Who cares, us proles pay for it

The time to annex is now, you will never have a more pro-zionist American admin than this one.
Even with the Democrats going full-blown socialist retard, his re-election is not guaranteed. Remember he won 3 key electoral college states by 80-100k votes.

> when and how he'll expect us to return a favor.

loans/bail outs to Kushner and tax exempt TrumpWorld condos in Tel Aviv, no big deal

Based

Were you expecting a decisive answer? out of a politician?
He won't explicitly say "occupation forever", but he's also trying to eat the cake while keeping it whole, that means promising some annexation and not delivering, promising some two state solution but offering no plan other than "lol fuck arabs" and riding on the image he built himself as "if ANYONE but me gets to form the government there will be a palestinian country from the river to the sea"
Is it true? fuck no, but that's definitely the mentality that benefits him the most.
That's the advantage of staying in power for a long time, at some point you keep going by your own momentum because the public will be kind of scared of replacing a veteran with a newcomer.
Say we annex everything before the next American election, then what? America is not likely to recognize it even under trump because it's so internationally unpopular, relationship with Europe would deteriorate even further, the "moderate" arab countries will frown upon it (and bib was bragging about improving relationship with those) and eventually a democrat will rise to power in America that will decide to stop giving Israel preferential treatment.
Israel could go full blown rogue state in the eyes of the world and frankly not even a majority of the Israeli population supports full annexation.
It's not the kind of move you should do without well established foundations.
Optimist that you are, I was thinking more along the lines of expecting us to give up more for his "deal of the century".
That being said, he IS a sucker for countries that praise him, Trump's even getting a major train station named after him in Jerusalem following the moving of the embassy, so maybe it's just that, he doesn't strike me as a very complicated man.

מי מהמפלגות תעלה קצבה ל-NEETs?

no you are not jewish, michael christiansson

צא לעבוד, פרזיט

How can I get an ashkenazi gf? I am nafri

first results are in:

no gf

How big are the Arab parties? If all the Arabs accepted Israeli citizenship and then voted in the Arab parties, what would happen?

כל מפלגה סוציאליסטית, אני מניח

If they voted like the rest of the population, they'd get about 24 seats, usually they get about half

אז כל מפלגה

Arabs are 20-25% of the population, so 24-30 seats

Do you guys take our elections into account when thinking about foriegn policy? Bibi can get away with a lot now, but does he take into consideration what happens if Trump is defeated?

the "deal of the century" is a meme, are you really expecting a real estate developer who went bankrupt 4 times and his idiot son in law to come up with a win-win solution for both sides?
Just put a golf course with his name on it on the shores of the Med and he'll let you nuke the WB and Gaza

לא זהות

shut the fuck up MAGApede

FUS ROH DAH !!! LOK VAH KOOR !!! KRAH DIIN !! ! :DDDD

Hello my friends please come and express your love to your french brother here:

I think that everyone who chooses likud either doesn't care about your elections or assumes that Trump/another Republican will win in 2020

get the fuck off this island

Based

>How big are the Arab parties?
Last elections they were the third biggest party (the union of all 4 of them).
These elections it looks like on half of that union (which is it's own union) won't get more than 4-5, if they're lucking to get in.
There are about 9 million people in Israel, a fifth of which are Arabic.
Arab voting turnout is very low, especially in these elections, some protest voting in an 'occupying government' but most are fed up with representatives from Arabic parties that care more about Gaza than Umm al-Fahm.
>If all the Arabs accepted Israeli citizenship
All Arabs within the green line have a full Israeli citizenship, those that have Orange ID (limited citizenship) are very few comparatively, so them joining the voter poll won't change much, Arabs in A territories in the west bank vote for the Palestinian authority, as it is a different country by all practical means.
If all Arabs voted for just one party They could easily be the 2nd or 3rd biggest party, but they don't, they're not as unified as the arab parties like to believe.
Not during elections, no, but I haven't a doubt the prime minister and cabinet absolutely do.
It might not look like it because Netanyahu was trying to appease his right wing voter base, but he kept (relatively) low profile when Obama was around, with Trump you're seeing a lot more right wing policies being pushed forward.
Pfft, no, and not because he's been bankrupt, but because he's so pro Israeli the Palestinians won't listen to him unless he offers them all of Israel with the exception of Tel aviv.

We're less than 10 minutes away from the initial results!
Soldiers and diplomats' votes will be counted tomorrow but we'd still have a clear view of how the seats are spread.
Get hyped

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ITS HAPPENING

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ynet דיברו על הפתעה גדולה
ניחושים?

זהות 119 מנדטים

זהות מקבלת את הקמת הקואליציה

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ZEHUT IS OUT
OH NO NO NO NO NO AHAHAHAHA

מדגמים כל פעם טועים מחדש, חכו לבוקר...

KaKKa?

>לפי קלפיות מדגם
Leftists like voting in polls more than rightists
I would wait with getting your socialist chub on

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COPE

I'm unironically an ancap, but feiglindrones are so insufferable that I am willing to having Nisenkorn as minister of finance just to drink their tears.

כנראה שאתה לא יודע מה קרה ב96

אבל לדעתי הם כן יקבלו 4 מנדטים

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Nisenkorn will be the worst thing to happen to our economy in a very long time.
I'll give you that feiglindrones are insufferable though, I don't like supporting the same party as הצל
makes me feel dirty

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Faglin.

who won? Left or rights?

Center by a bit

Feiglin is a hack, he would have thrown all the stoners and libertarians under the bus for a few more settlements

It may be decided by the soldiers' votes, so we won't know for a few days

ynet:

כחול לבן - 33

הליכוד - 27

העבודה - 9

חד"ש-תע"ל - 7

ש"ס - 7

הימין החדש - 6

יהדות התורה - 5

כולנו - 5

זהות - 5

איחוד מפלגות הימין - 4

מרצ - 4

בל"ד-רע"ם -4

ישראל ביתנו - 4

לפי מדגם Ynet זהות עם 5 מנדטים
יש עוד סיכוי לזהות

We all lose like always

no one so far, the estimates are only based on samples.
official counting has only just started, with votes from small settlements, soldiers, diplomats and those that voted in embassies being counted later due to logistics.
There's a saying in the Israeli right that goes "leftists like voting in polls more than they like voting for real"
current estimates by left leaning media (that's all media amirite folks) put the two blocs at 60-60 mandates, with each media having it's own thing.
nothing to be excited over just yet.

Name a better alternative
Annexing the WB doesn't come easy. Maybe he's laying groundwork for it, but wouldn't expect it in the next 10 years
All the Arabs living in Israel already have citizenship and voting rights, and they're about 20% of the population, but they don't all vote for Arab parties. Plenty vote for the Jewish Orthodox party (Shas) for gibs.
If you're referring to the hypothetical of WB and/or Gazan Arabs getting a vote, let's just say we won't be posting on 4chin

But I thought you were getting at least 11 :^)

ty, hopefully likud loses this.

Бeни гaнц выгpaл :)

Пиздeц Лe кoл хa дaтийм :)

Ceгoдня мы пoбeдили :)

Я зa кaхoл лaвaн хeцбaти

I like Israel. Do you guys think we can have peace in the near future?
As long as the giraffe man in syria is still in power and supplying the hezborats I think it is difficult. I wish us maronites would federalise and secede from this islamist garbage dump and build strong ties with our jewish allies like in the 80's. But is difficult.

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Say hello to the new head of the opposition

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Anyone else getting really fucking slow internet today

God willing neighbor we'll eat hummus together in Beirut one day and visit the Baha'i Gardens the next

Too early to celebrate
The only problem is hezbollah, but it's a difficult one to solve