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the only thing this map proves is that indian diaspora is superior to ind*ans that were born in actual india
might have something to do with the fact diasporafags have access to toilets

For some reason I get the feeling North Korea doesn't release IQ data on their population...

IQ is still rising all over the world snd subsequently so is productivity
gwern.net/docs/iq/2018-rindermann.pdf

These iq maps are literally guesstimates made up by actual white supremacist.

Madagascar has an IQ higher than much of the mainland but it's miserably poor.

Ever consider the results of his research persuaded him of views you would consider "white supremacist," and not the other way round. And all he does is aggregates research already done by many different people.

Lynn relies on way more than one study. Also he lookd at studies done in different locations

The guy is extremely biased in which score he accepts. If an African cohort does better then expected he discards it no matter what.

Doesnt matter desu. It has good predictive validity, and therefore useful to economists and others wishing to predict future trajectories and make informed decisions. Africans score how you would expect them to score on correlates of IQ.

>hurr making shit up
kill yourself already

>It has good predictive validity
lol

>Certain economists

One guy: Richard Lynn, a shitty neonazi who falsified data

And funny thing: indians created modern math but according to this shit they are dumb

>And funny thing: indians created modern math but according to this shit they are dumb

>Certain economists

One guy: Richard Lynn, a shitty neonazi who falsified data

youtube.com/watch?v=pElvQdcaGXE

>Doesnt matter desu. It has good predictive validity, and therefore useful to economists and others wishing to predict future trajectories and make informed decisions. Africans score how you would expect them to score on correlates of IQ.

user if a people you hate score better then you expected that is not justification to use shitty methodologies to mess up the data to portray said people in a shitty light.

Better education leads to better countries and we see this at all levels of development.

Some things you don't understand:
>avg iq can change over time
>Lynn isn't an economist
>Lynn identifies Ashkenazi Jews as being the most intelligent population, and east asians the next most, hardly a result of neonazi confirmation bias
>anyone from any race can make innovations, there will just be relatively more of them per capita in populations with a bigger smart fraction.

cope
BLACK SINGAPOREANS are literally superior to all of you wh*Teys and you are here seething like pathetic cucks
another W for the BLACK race.

White nationalist would be a more accurate term than Neo-Nazi

There's no evidence thst better education does anything but allows you to better exploit and harness existing talent. If that existing talent is lacking, then education is not going to help at all.

>Certain economists have asserted that the success of a society and economy is disproportionately affected by the proportion of the population who is deemed the "smart fraction" which is made up of people with IQs over 106.
What a load of shit. Economic success is obtained by either having resource control or taking it by force.
Take your cancerous Jow Forumstard graphs elsewhere.

>hardly a result of neonazi confirmation bias
Are you really this ignorant? It's called coping.

Exactly bro! For Mongolia, he relied on two obscure studies in Chinese on children who don't even live in the country, truly a bastion of accuracy and reliability.

questia.com/library/journal/1P3-1280412201/iq-of-mongolians

The most valuable resource in today's economy is human resource. First world econonies are service based and are only conpetitive because of the value of their human capital, ie, their average IQ, size of smart fraction, and number of geniuses produced per capita.

>Yeah i am not racist, i respect all human groups and cultures but think that each has their place on this beautiful world, asians and Jews have the highest iq'd and thats why we see how industrious they are
>Although, asians lack this certain creative spark that has blessed european peoples, dont get me wrong, they are wonderful people, but they are more fit for numbercrunching and accounting rather than being leaders, developers and inventors
>Pshh... user, btw jews falsify their IQ tests
>Btw, you need a strong protestant worth ethic to take adventage of IQ, the nordic race is gracile and just and meant to govern, its all just each according to their ability user, I swear

Ok. What do you expect he did instead? He found the only two studies he could find on the subject, which have large sample sizes, and he compared them to what one would expect from their genetic relations to groups whose IQs are more well-known. This example is also an outlier, as western researchers are not privy to much contact with Mongolia.

>He found the only two studies he could find on the subject, which have large sample sizes, and he compared them to what one would expect from their genetic relations to groups whose IQs are more well-known.

THAT IS NOT HOW YOU DO THAT SHIT! That's deceptive as fuck considering he's going around saying his shit is word of God yet his methodology is quite frankly shit you'd expect from an undergrad.

Who are you quoting?

>First world econonies are service based

Australia isn't.

>and are only conpetitive because of the value of their human capital, ie, their average IQ, size of smart fraction, and number of geniuses produced per capita.

Not exactly because there's a ton of Euroo states that have al that but aren't as comeptitive. IQ doesn't really matter since lots of shit has been outsourced to countries with less IQ. Size of smart fraction doesn't make sense, number of geniuses per capita is doesn't really make sense considering you probably has really naive PoV of what geniuses are or what they can do.

It ups the fucking literacy rate user, it teaches skills and gives them to tools they need to thrive in a working/researching world.

He shouldn't have claimed to have evidence for Mongolian IQ at all! How simple is that? The tests he got are just not very reliable. His entire map is also unreliable. There is no way North Korea and South Korea have similar national IQs. I wonder why that could be? And how did he even get the national IQ of China? About half the population is rural, and given how much lower rural IQ tends to be, it would be very surprising for him to get such consistent results across the provinces. It's almost like his method of calculating IQ is seriously flawed...

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A literal white supremacist? As opposed to a figurative one?

dont bullshit me, everyone who has had a field day on Jow Forums knows who IQ realism "redpilling" works and how it leads to white supremacy, if I actually gave a shit I could lurk to find the infographics they make

Yes, it helps you CASH IN on existing intelligence. It does not create nor increase it, however. Cuba, for example, has a literacy rate comparable to a first world country. It's not a first world country though, because literacy only helps you best exploit the raw human capital at your disposal. Their human capital is not first world material.

It's the SOLE REASON why you guys fucking poach educated people form other countries into your industry. If American education is lacking (which it is) at least it can leech off the other countries that do spend money on it's people for education with no coast to itself. Granted it will backfire in the longrun American academia and industry is filled with various ratios Europeans, South and East Asians as Americans start to fall off in numbers in those places.

So your ascribing moral implications to scientific findings that are by definition amoral. Data is data. What you think of it is your decision.

Maybe because it's an isolated country under communist rule?

Yeah we poach the high IQ elite from other countries. They're the very very far right on their IQ bell curve. That's why their kids are also intelligent in America, even when subjected to supposedpy bad US schools. Its because of IQ, which is highly heritable.

>It does not create nor increase it, however. Cuba, for example, has a literacy rate comparable to a first world country. It's not a first world country though, because literacy only helps you best exploit the raw human capital at your disposal. Their human capital is not first world material.

That;s because they don't have the same material wealth the US or other countries do. You can make the same shitty logic you posted by saying that Cuba has innate better raw human capital because it manged to get first world literacy rates without a lot of money.

>Yeah we poach the high IQ elite from other countries. They're the very very far right on their IQ bell curve. That's why their kids are also intelligent in America, even when subjected to supposedpy bad US schools. Its because of IQ, which is highly heritable.

No, you just poach regular people with education.

> That's why their kids are also intelligent in America, even when subjected to supposedpy bad US schools. Its because of IQ, which is highly heritable.

Up until 1 gen later then they fall

How strange, that Cuba isn't a first world country. I wonder if there could be anything besides raw human capital holding Cuba back, like a certain economic system hampering development, or an embargo imposed by the world's sole superpower. Nah. Must be genetics

> Bu.. but China!

China and Cuba use completely different economic systems. Also, why don't you try and find out how Lynn got his IQ for China? Isn't it a little bit strange that a country where half the population is peasants is able to compete with far more developed countries like Japan and Korea on national IQ? I'll give you a hint, Lynn didn't go around China surveying random peasants, he went to big cities like Shanghai and decided that the average IQ there must be the average IQ for the entire nation

and by fall I mean they go back to the American average. America literally tards people by your logic

No retard, there is no such thing as a "moral implication", we are talking about a deontological issue arising from questionable ethics in a particular display of scientific behavior, which by definition, to be amoral (the right term is ethical, retard), would require absolute methodology, and no hypothesis, which is paradoxical since would there be not be any hypothesis (analytic judgement), there would be no measured data (synthetic a priori judgement, in this case statistical), learn what the fuck you are talking about.

Data is data independently of if it's true or not, the only real value it holds is that it "exists" and has "entropy". Lynn enforces statistics, which are synthetic a priori tools and thus are not pure synthetic judgements derived from the transcendental aesthetics, if we are analyzing a body of data we need to have a bayessian approach.

1. Lynn's methodology is questionable
2. Lynn's results have not been replicated
3. Lynn's data doesn't have any control group
4. Deriving at theory from a sample size of 1, in other words a reiteration value of 0, is NOT scientific, given that there is no concesus
5. For IQ realism to be an acceptable theory, it would need to be self consistent; that is, apodictic, and its futile to discuss about it if it isn't, which isn't, so this discussion is not "scientific" either

you in a melborne mood tonight, bruce? tell 'em queen

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Material wealth today is a result of free market + IQ. When there are outliers, it's either because of oil, such as with dubai, or post commie countries that are still suffering from commie legacy, like Czech Republic and even east germany today.

"Free market" isn't a one dimensional stat like an RPG skill, retard

They fall when they interbreed with the host population, or unpoached members of their original country (through chain migration) If they remain derived purely of the original "poached" stock, they remain intelligent.

You can score countries based on economic freedom. If it exists, it can be measured. (Usually)

Maybe according to the Heritage Foundation lol

No I'm pretty sure your original objection was purely a moral one that didnt mention Lynn's methodology at all but instead whined about an ideology for which the data could potentially be used as evidentiary support.

This is bad econometrics. The cumulative level of rain fall is a good predictor of the accumulation of capital per worker according to this logic.

Of course if you assign poor countries a low score and rich countries a high score you can then after the fact say their income is rooted in their score.

>what one would expect from their genetic relations to groups whose IQs are more well-known.

Durr the people in nigeria sure do look like the people in gambia. Lets assign them the same iq

>success of a society and economy
This depends on very few individuals, literally several hundreds of thousand (

You are making bullshit up at this point.
I'm talking about immigrants of all types.

The happiest country I've ever been to was one of the poorest.

Not comparable. There are highly likely and indeed probable causal pathways between IQ and economic success, and the same can't be said for more purely correlative factors like rainfall, of which there is little evidence of causal pathways.
The causal pathway of IQ to economic susccess is partly supported by the fact that it exists on an individual as well as group level. Individuals with higher IQs identified as children have higher incomes as adults.

Economic freedom isn't a unifying variable that you can use to judge prosperity of a society. Take a look at Singapore for example - very high score for economic freedom, a large percentage of pop are millionaires, but also double digit levels of elderly poverty and destitution. Same with Hong Kong - high levels of economic freedom, but 50% of population lives in government housing.

Achievement of immigrants falls because the pressure to succeed lessens once a family becomes established. First/second generation immigrants usually either go hard at business or professional careers. Brin/Huang/Ryu created entire industries that employ half a million directly and power the entire world (search, compute, insurance), just as an example. Once the descendants of immigrants grow comfortable, this drive stops. Has absolutely jack shit to do with their genetic makeup. Read "The Outliers" to dispel the fallacy

Theres a 'causal pathway' (people who have actually studied this stuff call it a theoretical relationship) sure.

But the problem is is that your dependent variable has been mechanistically made to correlate with your outcome variable because the methodology behind it is crap.

Further more there is no control for the reverse causality in your analysis where level of development affects IQ.

Yeah, fixation index can be used as a sort of quality control. If one group scores 20 points higher, but the groups have a very small fixation index and thus are very similar genetically, then you might want to recheck those results because it would seem unlikely for there to be such a large gap between very similar groups.

Africa is the most diverse place on the planet genetically

I cannot see how two african countries can be described as similar genetically.

Somalia's iq is based on the iq tests of ethiopian jewish children languising in israeli refugee camps. How close genetically are somalis to ethiopian jews?

No, my original comment was a rhetoric figure, which illustrated how your original argument, of the following synthax:
p (tacit): Nazis are those who believe that whites are the smartest human group
q (tacit): Lynn's data is apodictic
r: Lynn's data asseverates that Asians and Jews are smarter than whites (V)
s: Lynn is a neonazi
~s (p ∧ q) ∧ r

as you can see, from developing the truth values for this argument, there is contradiction whenever the data is not real or nazis don't think that whites were the smartest group (which they didn't). Besides your argument has a fallacy of false implication, that being a neonazi implies IQ realism is mutually exclusive as an absolute measurement of human quality, which is a personal ascription that came out of you.

My comment, by virtue of evidencing the fact that neonazis don't consider Q as tautological, and that P is neither a satisfied argument, is purely a logical statement through a rethoric formae.

* ~s (p ∧ q) ∧ r
Jow Forums's rendered deleted the equivalence symbol

Reverse causality is in the process of being ruled out using polygenic tests. SNPs correlated to IQ now predict educational success (and IQ) better than any other single variable, such as socioeconomic factors. Between individuals as well as races, polygenic scores predict IQ using associated alleles.

Unsurprisingly, the groups one would expect to have less SNPs correlating to intelligence do actually have less, and vice-versa.

For example, Emil O.W. Kierkegaard recently did IQ and polygenic tests of Jews and gentiles and found IQ increasing polymorphisms are more prevalent in Jews, matching their phenotypic advantage in IQ. It was replicated elsewhere.

But peruvians are dumb look at these iq results recorded in a lunatic asylum in the middle of the amazon!

~s (p ∧ q) ∧ r

Okay, congratulations, brown people dumb
do you feel better now?

This doesnt actually explain away reverse causality or omitted variable bias.

Nor does it explain away the fact that iq results for most poorer countries are just plainly unreliable because their methodology sucks.

truth is, Q is the measurement of the niche adaptation to post agrarian and post industrial societies which requires a higher degree of memetics as the basic survivable rate, this is why people in these societies have larger formative periods and specialize in fields of knowledge, this doesn't discard IQ as a biological trait because adaptation IS evolution and IQ IS biologically inheritable, and populations with higher cranial indexes correlate to higher degrees of industrialization witj the exception of native Americans who have the biggest craneums yet have been under centuries of structural oppression.

Stop being so bedeviled by a measurement that simply signifies biological adaptation within the last 4 generations, all human populations except subsaharan africans could have high iqs if their societies were industrial , with subsaharan africans it would take more given that their geographic isolation due to the Sahara has kept them pleisomorphic (see insular action on evolutionary physiology), they would take a lot more generations given that they have been left out of the exchange/consumption networks,

Some countries colonies like those of Germany were straight up unprofitabl and Germany is a rich country now.

Kek, you don't even know what the term average menas

>Unsurprisingly, the groups one would expect to have less SNPs correlating to intelligence do actually have less, and vice-versa.

provide the study, and study that depicts any other group aside of non sub-saharians as existing within a linear distribution that correlates abundance of intelligence relates SNP's among populations, and measured intelligence

I dont see how it could not explain away reverse causality. The o ly way it couldn't is if you believe that phenotype encodes the genotype and not the other way around

>China 105 IQ
>North Korean 105 IQ
>people take this data seriosly because they are so desperate to shit on nigs
OHNONONOO AHAHAHA

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I shouted out Emil for the Jewish study

Who gives a shit about jews, you are stating that the groups one would expect to have less SNPs correlating to intelligence do actually have less, and vice-versa, then provide evidence of at least one study (that doesn't involve sub-saharans) where such correlation is described among vast human populations

>what is history

>East Asians are smart

>US Jews 108-113
Is the meme actually true? I'm scared

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Why so many conditions? I know one study off the top of my head, and that is Emil's study on Jews. Jews are a population. Their Iq (phenotypic) advantage corresponded to their polygenic score (genotypic) advantage, on a population level.

Look up Greg Cochran's paper: A natural history of Ashkenazi Intelligence (something like that) it's very interesting.

>Some countries colonies like those of Germany were straight up unprofitabl

They made massive money off German East Africa and "unprofitable" is extremely hard to define. Would you define public healthcare as unprofitable?

Emil, is that you?

>all human populations except subsaharan africans could have high iqs if their societies were industrial , with subsaharan africans it would take more given that their geographic isolation due to the Sahara has kept them pleisomorphic (see insular action on evolutionary physiology), they would take a lot more generations given that they have been left out of the exchange/consumption networks,

Not even considering the ton of Africans who are quickly adapting to mainstream technology and industry. It does not take generations to do that shit.

No, he would sound much more intelligent.

uhhh can you tell me the last kind of technology you know of invented by a sub-Saharan? A computer program? An App? Anything? Waze is an Israeli App. Apple was started by a non-white Caucasoid. Microsoft by a white. Africa is pretty much a technological invention desert. Where are there math geniuses? Ramanujan came out of nowhere from poverty stricken colonial India.

>is extremely hard to define
It's not hard to define.
profit>costs = profitable
costs>profit = unprofitable

German East Africa was very unprofitable. Alone the logistics made it impossible to make much cash of it. It was rather a ideological investment to show we empire too and shiiet.

Because according to your worldview this value theory is self-consistent, reductionist and material, and given that all humans are material beings (animals), should apply and be quantifiable in equal count or measure across all human populations, you are pretending that you can explain the degree of economic success of a society based on how many SNP's that correlate to intelligence they present, then provide cohesive bayesian evidence, a single study from a single population is not a synthetic judgement, its simply a worthless snapshot empty of evokation

>U.S hispanics: 95
>Mexico: 88
So I guess there IS an environmental impact for IQ after all

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The cost to run a colony is low. Especially if you can get private entities like missionaries or companies to take on the burden. There's also utility being a big factor. Malawi was ruled with the budget the same size as Glasgow's street cleaning budget.

The many fintech companies, financial companies, banks, and more? Steve Jobs was half German/half Syrian.