If I try really hard in school and pass all my papers will I make it? Does the effort pay off in the end?
If I try really hard in school and pass all my papers will I make it? Does the effort pay off in the end?
Nope. You're better off making friends with all the chad fratboys
Depends on a lot of factors
>Your major
>Your work history
>Your connections
>Your looks, gender, ethnicity
But if you consistently work hard you will go farther than most people
If you take the same approach with every aspect of your life, then yes. If you focus solely on work, you may work yourself into droneship. Beware.
I'm doing Bachelor of Business, majoring in Finance. I'm about a generic white male as you get. I don't have any connections and I don't have any relevant work experience.
this OP. Do not fall for the "succeed in school succeed in life" meme. You have to work hard to succeed in all areas. e.g. socially, academically and mentally
Rip
What did I do wrong?
Yah man, working hard in school is also good practice for working hard at life outside of school, if you want to be a wage cuck you want to start early and distinguish yourself from the crowd and that’s what’s school is for
I don't want to be a wage cuck though; I want to be an upper management guy who bosses around the Jow Forums type and laughs about them behind their back and makes 250k+
Oof youre fucked, go outside for once, talk to people, not just friends, actual quality people
bro. networking is the only way to get there. your major and grades aren't shit if you don't know the right people, i'm dead serious
It's only my first year of study; do I still have time?
it depends what you mean by trying hard, or making it. If by making it you want to have a job and get a wife and kids, sure. If that's not meaningful to you, just find what is and do it, it's not gonna be easy though because there's no clear path, usually it's high risk high reward
Literally this. Definitely do an internship or co-op while in school though as that can easily lead into a job.
If you don't have connections you will still have to wagecuck (and be good at kissing ass) for years to make that possible
you're gonna have to wagecuck and make connections if you're straight out of college, that's just how it is. Or you just start your business, but for that you either usually need money, a loan, or do the work mostly yourself and you probably can't do either of those three. And the work is no better than wagecucking, but you may make more money if you end up doing something useful
>If I try really hard in school and pass all my papers will I make it? Does the effort pay off in the end?
Yes, in fact at the end they reward you with a piece of paper with marks on it, you'll put in in a box and never look at it again, that is how important high school is
Did same sort of course, 30yo boomers I studied with are all at banks or similar on 150k+, regular students with reasonable grades who just applied normally for entry positions in final year, normies essentially.
The only thing that matters is connections.
I'm not a normie. In fact I don't think I've spoken to a single person I didn't have to so far. Am I fucked?
No one wants to wagecuck that’s the point of being a wagecuck all finicial bois dream of being at the top it’s just who can crawl their way there the fastest, you need to separate yourself from the pack while everyone around you is trying to do the same thing, it’s like going to a Jugalo Concert everyone is trying to be insane and wild to stand out and be the weird one but no one stands out because they are all doing the same crap, live your life in the library, do internships, but understand that you might be missing valueable connections while you are studying
Get out of your fucking shell if you're going to work in business/finance
It's a field where normies thrive
Became an account if that’s the case pretty good money and no need for social skills, but make friends in college because you can’t make any money if you kill yourself
I’m pretty sure we are talking about college/university
unless you're some kind of rain man level autist that can do numbers like nobody else, yeah. get out there and make some friends man, it'll save your ass.
How?
cultivate social hobbies. intramural sports, working out, hiking, climbing, etc. doesn't really matter how, just try new shit and bring others with you. that's a good start.
There should be at least one business-oriented club/meetup at your school
Look up opportunities to meet like-minded people
Make friends with people you like as well
Don't go to school just to learn from books
It can be tough making friends, but It is also just as easy as talking to people, college is set up so you make friends you just have to not fight the system, clubs are always a great place to start and very welcoming
Just get better grades than a normie and train to get jobs. All you are doing in your degree is learning how to pass exams, you also need to learn how to get jobs by working anything you can part time and constantly applying for better jobs.
Who are the people to try and get connections with? Most of the people in my classes are normies who don't even look like they're paying attention
>THIS
I fell for the work hard meme. All working hard does is get you working hard. More important is working on your social skills. Not gonna make it without them. Network and rub shoulders with the right people, you're gonna have to chad your way around people to get that bacon.
People make entire livings off of knowing how to work people, and imagine how rare that skill is going to be in the future with the upcoming generations too glued to electronic devices to bother learning face to face interaction.
Do yourself a favor and join a frat. Only thing I wish I did different in college. Thought I was too cool/smart for that but you need to learn how to rub shoulders with the right crowd.
I second joining a frat
I'm not in America; we don't have any frats
jfc you're more autistic than I thought. and not in the good way. i'm trying to help you man. seems like you're pretty behind on the social agility. so just as an exercise, go out and talk to random people. you need to be comfortable with that first. baby steps.
>But if you consistently work hard you will go farther than most people
>farther
aka terminal cancer with a fresh degree
Talk to random people about what?
Where you at boy?
are you being intentionally obtuse? or is that a serious question?
I obviously meant further. Why are you being autistic about one word?
This is a meme until you have been working professionally for a while. No graduate is getting a fucking job merely because they knew somebody unless it is some small place or manual labor.
My social skills are an absolute 0; don't assume anything better
no offense but that was obvious from your answers man. you got a long road ahead of you, but seriously, cultivate those skills. it's invaluable for your future.
You suck. Stop being so up yourself and talk to people. Right now you think your above the normies but desu your wellllll below
New Zealand; Massey University
>Stop being so up yourself and talk to people. Right now you think your above the normies but desu your wellllll below
What? Where did you get that from? I don't talk to people because I don't have anything to say
Just google Massey Student groups and their are a ton of fun and productive clubs you can join
I have no idea what the business environment is like in New Zealand but I could see Aerospace becoming a big deal there in the future
your calling them normies and acting like you are. Read between the lines, they arn't talking to you either.....
Im from NZ too and nothing gets your further in life here that being able to sink piss and talk shit with the right people. Our whole govt is basically founded on that.
it's pretty clear you consider yourself superior to the normies, just read your own responses. unfortunately that mentality won't help you win any hearts and minds. nobody likes feeling like they're being talked down to and I have a hunch that might be what you do. not saying that as an insult, just an observation. if you want to talk to people, you need to be genuinely curious about them. people love talking about themselves, so if you just help them with that, you're golden. you don't even need to say much, let others do the talking. just don't be a judgmental dick when they tell you stuff or when you express yourself.
This^^
i graduated at the top of my class (summa cum laude) from an ivy league institution and i still can't seem to get a fucking job
so no
in the meantime between interviews i just trade crypto, swipe on bumble/tinder, and shitpost on Jow Forums. unironically starting to enjoy this life
entrepreneurship is by far the most reliable way to 'make it'
i recently had an idea for unique product that will dominate a small market and im in the process of making a prototype and then moving forward with manufacturing. It's not going to be easy but the high prospect of success bought a lot of hope back into my life
It's mostly a waste of time. Most of them are on the same boat as you. Also, people find it off-putting if they think you're just being friends with them to get something out of them.
Solid advice.
Well that's the thing, you don't just make friends to extract value from someone. anyone can sense it and it's entirely off-putting. you'll only burn yourself trying to do that. I'm saying you need build and cultivate real relationships. Real friendships. And you have to bring something to the table, you can't just take. It doesn't work that way.
Implying I have any intention of staying here