Trump is threatening Europe again

We're trying to save you from your own innocence and stupidity.

Poles hate Russia. The USA allied with the Soviets, Croatia and Hungary didn't. Kys.

You deserved it, both fascism and communism are evil

>both fascism and communism are evil

Indeed.

have fun working your shitty factory job and standing in line for your load of bread like you're on welfare

this. Why is it always some irrelivant eastern or souther shitstain yuropoor country making these threads?

>Poles hate Russia
Which is funny because they ARE Russia. The same obsession with Christianity, the same commie blocks, the same alcoholics, the same misery and grey life, the same disdain for the rest of Europe, the same Slavic language and the same backward practices.
>I've met a lot of Poles who hated living under the USSR.
Yeah, and that's why like 4 million Poles fled to Western Europe the moment the Schengen borders opened up. They can't stand living in their own country either.

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>Europeans
France and Spen did that
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolutionary_War

menj aludni lacika, holnap isi

We blacks built America actually.

Yeah and you're the same as Romania

we weren't fascists though?
>allied with the commies, who killed more men than hitler, after it was clear that he is a genocidal maniac
>"we are the good guys"
>allied with hitler before the holla cost and the inability to give up the lost war to fight against the evil soviets
>"you deserve all the bad!"
simply ebin

but he'll listen to Sean hannity and lou dobbs.

Hitler was a good guy before all of that though.

kek you were fascist in every sense of the word, whether you liked it or not because the Germans disposed of your prime minister and put a puppet in charge.

the eu said time and time again they are free to leave, it's the uk that keeps postponing it
the ONLY thing the EU wants an answer on is if the UK wants a hard border on northern ireland or not, and that's a reasonable thing to ask about in advance, what the FUCK did he mean by "being so tough"?

anglo gonna ang

>threatening
just bants mate

Tbh Poland is Catholic Russia. Only if Poles Converted to Orthodoxy in 966. We would have the Great Slav Empire from Berlin to Vladivostok.

>the ONLY thing the EU wants an answer on is if the UK wants a hard border on northern ireland or not
Not really though, since we've both said that no one wants a hard border.
The only question is what the plan to avoid it is (and there isn't one).

>Not knowing what fascist mean
>Being with a flag with 50 stars and 13 stripes
Everytime

EU is not Europe you fucking retard
Neither is Hungary
Go back to Asia

>EU is not Europe you fucking retard

yes it is

>The only question is what the plan to avoid it is (and there isn't one).
that's what I meant, I mean if you leave it as is people will be able to go to ireland, go to northern ireland, and then go to UK proper, all this will do is take traffic away from your airports and into the irish airports

EU exists in Europe
It doesn't represent Europe, it only represents itself
If you truly love Europe, you don't want it to turn culturally homogenous

The EU are being tough. The deal they've proposed is shite and they know no deal is so unpopular there's a higher chance of a 2nd referendum/scrapping the whole thing. They have every advantage.

The easy option would been to just align NI to EU trade rules, but since May threw that option away we're stuck in this retarded postion and she won't fucking resign.

>because the Germans disposed of your prime minister and put a puppet in charge
that happened after the German invasion though? Are you legit retarded? You yourself said "puppet".

>The EU are being tough. The deal they've proposed is shite and they know no deal is so unpopular there's a higher chance of a 2nd referendum/scrapping the whole thing. They have every advantage.
please tell me what's so bad about this deal. You can always not take it and leave your economy even more crippled.

That's not the EU being 'tough' though, it's May and the Tories being cowardly spastics.

The USA is probably the most corrupt and unbalanced trading partner for any country on the planet.
That said, Europeans can get fucked.

the easy option would be for NI to secade, but I digress.
Is it possible to have one part of your country be a part of the EU trade rules while another one isn't?

The backstop genuinely is unnaceptable though, since we wouldn't have the power to end it, only the EU can, and since it would never be in Ireland's interests to end it, they simply wouldn't do it and we'd be stuck forever.

Pál Teleki was Fascist lite

>working your shitty factory job and standing in line for your load of bread like you're on welfare
How is that any different to working for Amazon or Walmart and collecting food stamps?

>Is it possible to have one part of your country be a part of the EU trade rules while another one isn't?
There's no explicit reason why they couldn't, only practicality. NI's border with Ireland would make it very practicle indeed.
The only obstacle is the DUP who would see it as NI being isolated from the UK, and they won't accept that.

lmao, your government promised to help them in 1956, then didn't do shit once it went down.

youtu.be/fOKJkjYMzN8

but yeah, you saved their asses, jackass

Is this still over China again? In all honesty if Trump wanted to fuck with Chinese trading he should've just went ahead with the TPP since that thing's whole thing's purpose was to fuck with China.

Why would you want to end it though?

well, you wouldn't be speaking russian, yugoslav history would probably go the same way if america didn't get involved

Yes because that would mean nuclear armageddon

>The only obstacle is the DUP who would see it as NI being isolated from the UK, and they won't accept that.
I forgot northern ireland is autistic. Why do they care so much about being part of the UK again? I mean, the republicans I understand, not necesarrly agree but I get why they hold the position they do. But Unionists? Why are they so into the idea?

Because we want to leave the EU.

>Just who does he think he is?

The president of the world's largest economic and military power.

>Fascist lite
meaningless drivel
we had a conservative authoritarian government that is clearly antithetical to the third-way, reformist socialistic actual fascism of the era

then why did you promise help in the first place? Oh right, it's because the american government charaded the fight against communism while manipulating people in between, not giving a shit about the freedom and suffering of the people you LARP you protected, so can it with your moral high ground, cunt

That's like 300 years of history I wouldn't be able to explain in detail, but it basically boils down to Catholic versus Protestant sectariansim although certain people would deny it.

The Unionist identity is centred around resistance to the Irish (see the parades for the Battle of the Boyne), plus they fear being a minority in a United Ireland and losing their ability to create their own archaic laws (gay marriage not allowed, abortions not allowed, Irish language act disallowed, etc)

not really, only shitting on the brits at suez and destroying european colonial power and the anglo-french after war renaissance was more important

so you're saying you DO want to put a hard border on Northern Ireland, just not now but later.
This is unacceptable from Ireland's point of view and thus the EU's.

>authoritarian
same thing

If they're aligned in terms of trade policies there wouldn't need to be a border, at least that's the idea.
And by border, I think you're misunderstanding what we mean. We mean like a guarded, military checkpoint, not just a political imaginary one like which exists in Shengen countries.

>cringe when lesser europeans speak as if they were germans or french, countries that actually matter in the EU

That would be Brazil my ustaša friend

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Why are you acting like our fight against communism was only in our interests? France and the UK were supportive of Containment doctrine.
>starting a war east of the Iron curtain
That'd be war user

>And by border, I think you're misunderstanding what we mean. We mean like a guarded, military checkpoint, not just a political imaginary one like which exists in Shengen countries.
that's exactly what I mean, obviously I wasn't there for the troubles but my understanding is putting checkpoints back in place will make people pissed again>(gay marriage not allowed, abortions not allowed, Irish language act disallowed, etc)
wait, they actually banned the irish language? is this enforced?

it's not you, dimwit, the USA itself was way more authoritarian back then
the government was authoritarian in an old fashioned sense, supporting nobility and restrictions on the elections, not in a fascistic sense, would you call Victorian-era Britain fascist you absolute retard?

Hungary independently exited the Warsaw Pact, the border control was disassembled, and by the way, the original Soviet occupation of Hungary was tied in theory to their presence in Austria, which was uplifted in 1955, but in Hungary they stayed without any legal reason, which was one of the grievances against the socialist puppet government

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As I understood it last, NI aside, we'd be part of the customs union but not the single market meaning we'd still have to abide by a shit load of EU regulations yet have zero say on them. Labour love their workforce protection and economic migrants, none of which is covered in her deal either. I believe we'd have to pay a shit load of money to them.

I'm actually glad the hard brexit MPs were so stubbornly against it. Might well have passed without them.

I am speaking russian anyway...where is your justice now?

way to miss the point, pinhead

I really don't understand what you want.
You want total, complete independence from any sort of agreements, trade deals or EU standerds?
And you want there to be a hard border (military personel check your passports ect) between NI and Ireland proper?
Then why does the UK keep asking for a deal if all the EU can do is give them one where they enforce one of these things?

sorry we couldnt save you

>Then why does the UK keep asking for a deal if all the EU can do is give them one where they enforce one of these things?
This is the burning question that no one can give a proper answer to.
The actual answer is that the Tories are internally split and have no driving direction, or faith in the PM. Yet, at the same time, they won't get rid of her because there's be an election and the Tories would get fucking slaughtered, so can't do that.
Basically leaving us in limbo.

gud b8

>wait, they actually banned the irish language? is this enforced?
Northern Ireland is a backwards shithole even by Middle-Eastern standards, it's fucking insane.

>EU
>Europe

Pick one. EU isn't europe, its a cancer on europe.

>says the Hungarian
Where's that picture of laughing girls eating salad?

Another reason to nuke you.

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>No, Don't trade with China!
>I'll put tariffs on Mexico!
>Europeans don't deserve to trade with us!
Who the fuck does he want to trade with then?

why does the UK government allow this? Surely they have power over them, they aren't a country like wales or scotland, right?
Even then, that shit seems insane. If my voivodeship wanted to ban the kashubian language that would get shut down right after being announced and half the politicians behind it would be impeached.

Whoever papa Putin wants him to.

Of course you could, you just don't want to do that back in 90s. And fact that russia is a dictatorship shithole now is completly your personal fault.

does the average voter know this? How does the average pro-brexit chav see this stalemate? Who do they think is in the wrong here?

Who gives a shit

Nope, NI has it's own devolved parliament, and sets it's own rules, it's why abortion is illegal over there.
It should also be noted, they haven't even had a proper government since fucking 2017, it's an absolute shitshow of a country that no one wants to deal with.

The chav's opinion doesn't matter, he probably doesn't vote anyway.
Everyone else knows it, it's common knowledge.

>they haven't even had a proper government since fucking 2017
...how?
>Everyone else knows it, it's common knowledge.
aside from the president of the united states apparantly

>I really don't understand what you want.
Nobody does, it's such a divisive issue hence why nothing has progressed in 3 years.
>You want total, complete independence from any sort of agreements, trade deals or EU standerds?
Hard leavers want it all gone. Moderates want the trade agreements and sovereignty.

Not the other guy who mentioned a hard guarded NI/Ireland border but I do not see that happening at all. Decades and decades of violence led to an agreement that stipulated the old one be removed.

>Then why does the UK keep asking for a deal if all the EU can do is give them one where they enforce one of these things?
Because ultimately parliament does not want to leave the EU and will vote as a majority against practically anything. I don't know where we go from here.

>...how?
webm related.
Feel free to read about it if you'd like - independent.co.uk/voices/northern-ireland-power-sharing-stormont-collapse-two-years-no-government-sinn-fein-dup-brexit-a8718756.html

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He's just a mad dog chasing his own tail. He has no end game or long term goal. He's just a boomer with dementia.

Only REAL allies we've ever had are the Anglo sphere and Japan+South Korea

im sorry for single handily toppling the USSR, please send me away for my heinous crime

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Anglosphere union when?

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why would you want to federate with south africa and america

America has a big ass army that we could use to bully euros. I agree witb not letting South Africa in though.

gotta be the worst geographically placed union imaginable. I'm in

better than having western europe under US rule and filled with niggers and muslims now compared to eastern Europe

Kurva Anyatok.

>my puppet is being mean to me!
what did western europoors mean by this? rofl

This... can't be militarily tenable. I mean, with America having 40-odd servicable carriers more than the next nation down the line, sure, but how long is that going to last once we start bullying people? You've really got to love an alliance that requires to to sail or fly the furthest distance possible on the globe to get from ally to ally, though.

You know, in all of my shitposting on this site I really don't get why everyone thinks the EU and the US are going to have to fight to the death for cultural dominance of the earth. America is the biggest financial market and that's why they're the loud, retarded center of the media universe but at the end of the day, all of Europe and America put together are still outnumbered by the Chinese or the Indians. The two of them put together have half the world population and the only thing saving Europe or the US are inflated defense budgets and the fact that they hate each other just as much as they each hate us. I'm not saying everyone has to accept the Americanization of the world either, but do Europeans really want to live under Chinese overlords so much more that they want to fight the US first?