He's right you know

He's right you know...

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don't talk about ir*land you will summon the amerimutts

Big if true

that's going to be a based from me dawg

damn... he was right... the amerimutts are here! Hide! run away! Abandon this thread!

shit too late to delete the thread, what do i do?????

You called?

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I have an announcement to make my great-grandfather (paternal grandmother's father), was from County Armagh in Ireland and he was a proud IRISH MAN and not british

Henry VIII just kinda fucked Ireland over 500 odd years ago. Southern Ireland wanted to go, Ulster wanted to stay and so they did. Two countries.

One of the many things I think is very interesting about UK is that instead of having states you have countries. Whole countries as states. I'm going to England this summer and Ia m looking forward to it

uh ireland gained independence 100 years ago

I am an irish celtic australian and i disagree with this post.

what am I reading

You left out the part where they forced the Irish out of Ulster and gave their land to Scottish Protestants who settled in Ulster and who's descendants live there today.

why do retarded foreigners have such strong opinions about ireland when you clearly have no clue? nothing he said was wrong.

>You left out the part
He left a lot out because his point was entirely incoherant, your point was irrelavant to whatever his was.

he said henry VIII planted ireland, which is true, and that ireland was partitioned which is also true. it's pretty obvious he didn't mean one directly followed from the other

Oh wait, I get it now. You were talking about two different events - the way your post is structured makes it look like the two sentences are are point.

Nothing I said was wrong either, orangey :-)

Yeah, I get that now, I was confused.
Also I'd say King James ! fucked things up more than Henry did though.

>such strong opinions
I was tought basic history in school.

Bullshit were you taught the ins-and-outs of Ireland's relationship with Britain in school, Tomasz.

>Bullshit were you taught the ins-and-outs of Ireland's relationship with Britain in school, Tomasz.
I was told when it became independent

james was definitely the most at fault for the genius idea of plantation.
but, if you want to get to the true root of it, everything goes back to the norman conquest

our history education is very good actually and yes, we were.
Basically the anglos conquered them into serfdom, when they stayed catholic as opposed to the protestants of england they were treated horribly with england setting up plantations, the UK then got a bunch of lowland scots to move into what is today northern ireland for population control, the actually irish parts of ireland left you and the protestant majority northern ireland chose to stay, with the catholic minority being repressed, and here we are today. Is this not correct? Have I missed something?

No, that's pretty much it.
The plantations though were more of a Scottish venture than an English one though.

And as points out, 'England' at that point was ruled by Normans.

>The plantations though were more of a Scottish venture than an English one though.
The Ulster ones were. There were plantations prior to that with English settlers that all failed

Sure, but they failed.
It wasn't until King James that the occupation really got going.

I have family in irealnd (please don't bully, they're nice people) and I plan to visit them sometime. Once I'm there I might as well go sight seeing. Any nice places I could visit where there won't be many tourists?

>nice places I could visit where there won't be many tourists
I'm not well traveled around Ireland so I wouldn't know of many hidden gems desu. For starters, you could check out Dublin and Belfast and contrast them against each other. Granted, these places are going to have tourists