How did China leapfrog the West so quickly? Even India superpower by 2020 meme failed miserably.
How did China leapfrog the West so quickly? Even India superpower by 2020 meme failed miserably
Ryan Ortiz
David Russell
Litigation. India has to prove to its people that a decision will benefit them and then get the votes and bribe politicians. China just orders it, and it begins. Bare in mind alot of China's growth is artificial, most factories employ tens of thousands and has them do fuckall but still get paid in full so that the economy doesn't implode. It's the reason their money isn't traded outside of China in any major capacity.
Evan Rogers
West is stuck with neo liberal democracy while China gets authoritarian state capitalism
Asher Miller
When will Abe cut old farts' benefits and introduce a law that will encourage people to have children so there will be more than 50 million people in Japan by 2100?
Isaac Bell
They allow foreign investment but refuse to sell foreigners land. They also understand that basically all western companies are extensions of the US intelligence apparatus and so have isolated certain key parts of their society from foreign powers (social media and all internet sites widely used by chinese citizens are made and run by local chinese companies.)
Kevin Clark
Japan is already overcrowded as is, why do you want their living conditions to suffer even more? Maybe rent prices will go down in the next few decades now.
Evan Bailey
this, an authoritarian government can make decisions much quicker. Also obviously large population is a big plus. Being behind for so long gave them plenty of time to see what works and what doesnt throughout the world, whether in terms or tech, policies, or infrastructure. As they just started putting it into place a few decades ago they can put in more modern shit than in the west which has older infrastructure already in place. Lastly, they have a culture of stealing tech and reverse engineering things which helps as well.
Jack Perez
They didn't unless you take CCP propaganda releases seriously.
Asher Sanders
>Lastly, they have a culture of stealing tech and reverse engineering things which helps as well.
China's rise is proof that intellectual property only holds society back.
Eli Gonzalez
Colton Sullivan
Meanwhile in America
Carson Kelly
If you live in the big cities.
Kevin Baker
did you even read the article? it is actually just click bait shit
Lincoln Ortiz
The worst place you can find in the US or Europe doesn't match the ass-backwardness of rural China. That's where they literally still believe giving birth to a child on a quarter moon is good luck and where they use traditional medicines designed to drive out evil spirits from sick people.
Carson Miller
It's meaningless. Even Nigeria will overtake first the EU than China, simply because they will have more people. As long as morality and in turn the legal framework of mankind is dominated by this version of humanism, just shitting out babies will triumph over any other form of accomplishment. Even if you don't take good care of your children, someone else will. If you produce more people, there will be more scientists, engineers among them, because others will sacrifice everything to care for your children, find the talents among them, give them opportunities.
Sensible nationalism is dead, hyper-tribalism is alive, Africans have the power to flood the whole planet with their kind and take over all the collapsing societies like Europe and China, where the people chased material wealth and comforts instead of passing on their genes as much as it is biologically possible. They gained power for a short while, but then redistribution will slowly osmose all that wealth to great poverty of the negro human wastes.
Owen Reed
>american thought processes
Jason Thomas
It's not clickbait you are just a brainlet. It was talking about how the political structure of the US is devolving into that of a third world nation (e.g. its political elites are more concerned with funneling money to themselves than actually improving conditions for their constituents.)
Jackson Cook
Nathaniel King
Cheaply manufactured products=extreme profits. Plus the state controls everything so they can manage it well, not to justify totalitarianism.
Brandon Sullivan
>That's where they literally still believe giving birth to a child on a quarter moon is good luck and where they use traditional medicines designed to drive out evil spirits from sick people.
To be fair, we have those kind of people too.
Ryan Gray
>manage it well
If by that you mean lining party elites' Swiss bank accounts.
Jordan Gonzalez
>muh billionaire party members
Yeah sure would suck to have a government run by people who are far wealthier than your average citizen.
Eli Jackson
>T.
Isaac James
China's just doing what the asian tigers did except they have 1.5 billion people
and they can get shit done because of their system. Which isn't always good because of people like mao but still.
Ryder Phillips
Aiden Torres
Wasn't that supposed to not exist under communism?
Bentley Green
Double dubs checked.
It's not that China has advanced, it's that the West has fallen behind. With so much money committed to eldercare and military, we have hardly anything left for infrastructure and education. We're also carrying the dead weight of mandatory diversity.
Angel Martin
You've been brainwashed by your amerikkkan jewish government to make you think that communism is bad
Nathaniel Powell
Look it's the schizo Population Hungarian guy.
Adrian Hernandez
ITT: Desperate slant-eyes
James Thompson
If you think an authoritarian government is more quick and efficient, then the Soviet Union is still standing.
Easton Moore
Pretty simple, actually. They steal everything conceptualized in the west but not made yet because of prototyping, testing, bug fixing, etc and then they just rush it to production with zero regard for safety or quality.
Aaron Ramirez
The USSR was dismantled from within though.
Angel Nguyen
>this is what western labor aristocrats actually believe
Intellectual property rights are bullshit. The fact that the west relies so heavily on them to maintain profitability speaks volumes to how ossified and stagnant their societies are.
Grayson Mitchell
>leapfrog
Average chinaman lives like a slave and they're shit tier in science compared to the west.
Caleb Edwards
>How did China leapfrog the West so quickly?
western greed and outsourcing
Christopher Rogers
Beijing has 22 million people so it's like asking if a median sized nation can be entirely poverty free.
Carter Thomas
Genetics.
John Moore
Is that what happens when you're not a communist party member?
Aaron Moore
...
Zachary Kelly
well they are but no matter what a planned economy is going to get raped up the arse by a market one. China combines both. So they can just make shit happen in a way that we can't because there are actual checks on power and rights are a thing that exist.
Daniel Reed
Elijah Russell
Lies. Vietnamese are backstabbers who won't accept that they were jungle apes before China civilized them.
Propaganda made by a Japanese fascist.
Ethan Parker
>Japan is already overcrowded as is,
Hardly, their infrastructure seems to handle it just fine or at least better than the west.
The only time it seemed overcrowded in Japan was because of tourists like me.
Caleb Gray
>most factories employ tens of thousands and has them do fuckall but still get paid in full
Ok so how do I get in?
Charles Howard
Per capita income in China is Mexico-tier, China hasn't leap-frogged the West.
Kayden Gomez
The thing is that it's not really slowing down. Also it has avoided kneecapping itself with foreign debt like so many other developing nation so its future as a major world power is pretty much guaranteed.
Jayden Allen
>What is past-tense
I didn't say it wasn't in the process of catching up. Also US has niggers and spics whereas China is 90% Han-Chinese and other minorities are racially similar, that isn't a fair comparison.
Leo Clark
Most Chinese are far more ass-backward than those even.
Adam White
china will rule world one day and i am not even chinese who is saying this
Jack Campbell
shut up cheng
Lincoln Williams
India is more crowded than japan
Jose Baker
Not really, many indians still live in rural areas and small towns.
While urbanization in japan has been going up, despite a declining population.
Carter Jenkins
China..
>steals lands of ethnic groups and forces them to learn Chinese and forget their language
>enslaves own people in factories to produce goods for the world
>moves factories coastal so the smog is blown to other countries
>refuses to let foreigners own property or businesses
>sends their golden spoon kids to other countries to buy up property they don't even live in
>sends poor immigrants to other countries to move into neighborhoods, refuse to learn or use the local language, and only offer jobs and housing to other Chinese immigrants aka check out the former white neighborhoods in Brooklyn is entirely Chinese now, all the signs written in Chinese, staff refuses to speak English, landlords won't rent to non Chinese
>so fucking racist and uncultured and dirty and loud and cheap and rude and educated and they steal everything
>historical music and food is all they offer the world but that is history, modern chinese cannot compare
你们觉得这里是中国? 这里是美国啊. 你们很笨的. 你们不会英语吗? 你们在美国不会英语吗? 别住在美国. 快回力中国. 我讨厌你们都啊.
Jack Phillips
china provide affordable products for everyone. without ancient chinese inventions the world will still be medieval. world cannot survive without china
Jaxon Gomez
shit I forgot
>keeps fishing in everyone elses waters to steal their fish and sea mammals just to sell back to them or feed their overpopulation of people
>they fish in Korea, Japan, Southeast Asia, South America, North America coastal waters.
Matthew Flores
Ancient China is fine.
I told you China today is a problem.
Carter Cox
He's right though. Demographics is destiny. 50% of people will be African by 2110
Eli Morgan
It's IQ rates.
China will rise to about the level of per-capita income of Japan, which will give it several times the GDP of USA +Europe +Australia combined
Jaxon Murphy
not really lets see your complaints.
>steals lands of ethnic groups and forces them to learn Chinese and forget their language
no they were part of china for many dynasties
>enslaves own people in factories to produce goods for the world
most countries have lower wages and lower gdp per capita than us so.......
>moves factories coastal so the smog is blown to other countries
no korean like to blame us for their pollution. its pathetic
>refuses to let foreigners own property or businesses
that rule was recently relaxed
>sends their golden spoon kids to other countries to buy up property they don't even live in
who cares those countries get lots of money for it
>sends poor immigrants to other countries to move into neighborhoods, refuse to learn or use the local language, and only offer jobs and housing to other Chinese immigrants aka check out the former white neighborhoods in.
who cares if its that bad kick them out or depor tthem or whatever
>so fucking racist and uncultured and dirty and loud and cheap and rude and educated and they steal everything
just ur opinion
>historical music and food is all they offer the world but that is history, modern chinese cannot compare
ummmm have you even heard of cpop
>keeps fishing in everyone elses waters to steal their fish and sea mammals just to sell back to them or feed their overpopulation of people
no one "owns" ocean its free to use for everyone also look at ming dynasty maps, many seas are part of china
Hudson Russell
China was caught stealing MILLIONS of patents from the USA.
Apparently they put a couple of RAT's in some AutoCAD machines in major companies. Which means that they have access to many many blueprints.
The Chinese cheat, lie,scam, steal and it's rewarded in their culture actually, they are quite literally the ultimate Jews.
Nathan Price
Manchuria used to have their own language and ethnicity as distinct from Han as Korea is today. China basically wiped them off the map. Same happened in Tibet. China is a super aggressive expansionist colonial power
Bentley Young
Are you a CCP worker ? Or just a patriotic person?
Camden Evans
>tf
>tp
Cooper Miller
true.
Mason Myers
>world cannot survive without china
Landon Robinson
no im just annoyed by people lying about china. we are hated for no good reason
Leo Rogers
>we are hated for no good reason.
Jose Robinson
I think most people seem to hate your government rather than the people themselves.
The same can't be said for India :(
Ethan Barnes
China is just copying the US dumb fuck. its really easy from their point of view to just copy America's rise to power minus the red tape and years of debate to install a redlight.
Justin Scott
How come all these other countries aren't "just copying the US"?
China is able to do this because of their IQ levels, that's why their society is this complex, this rapidly developed. They are actually able to build a complex, well-functioning society. I guarantee if you look up crime rates in China they will be significantly lower than the US, probably lower than Europe
Camden Phillips
this is why
Brayden Martin
Justin Johnson
>China they will be significantly lower than the US, probably lower than Europe
Jesus christ Jow Forumsasianmasculinity you are mad delusional
Camden Baker
because the US picked China as its factory from 1985-2005 with the biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the world. pretty dumb decision to finance a communist dictatorship in hindsight. we could have easily put our toilet seat factories in India and it would be the complete opposite with India as the rising world power.
Josiah Bell
Nope, India has far lower IQ levels, they will never rise to the wealth of China
Brody Green
>no they were part of china for many dynasties
No they weren't. The modern country borders weren't even around back then. So the land wasn't considered "China" it was just villages for different ethnic groups and their cultures. You drew an arbitrary border around them even though you discriminate against non Han chinese.
>most countries have lower wages and lower gdp per capita than us so.......
They have lower comparable wages. Oh other countries are bad too so that cancels the reality? Tell me why is everyone flocking to cities to work 6 days a week while living in a dormitory to send half their wage back to their countryside families. Because that's their dream?
>no korean like to blame us for their pollution. its pathetic
That's why there is actual proof. And that's why you are moving all the factories to the coast where Siberian winds blow it East? If you have no smog problem explain Beijing and Harbin. Explain why you don't move factories the other direction. Explain why your children have lung cancer?
>that rule was recently relaxed
Let me know when foreigners get to own companies on mainland.
>who cares those countries get lots of money for it
You steal housing from local people and drive up market prices. Nobody benefits from this.
>who cares if its that bad kick them out or depor tthem or whatever
It is illegal to refuse to rent or hire someone based on race. You act like I personally can deport them.
>just ur opinion
See, you can't even argue against it.
>ummmm have you even heard of cpop
Yes, because they copy everyone elses music. Have you heard of a dictionary? Are you too uneducated to know what the word "historical" means?
>no one "owns" ocean its free to use for everyone also look at ming dynasty maps, many seas are part of china
If your arbitrary land borders have meanings then coastal seas have meaning. Oh we get to use ancient borders? Then Europe belongs to Italy, because Roman borders.
Dylan Gutierrez
your post literally contradicts your statement. if IQ levels determined wealth then why was England and America richer than China? Obviously its not so black and white otherwise America would have never been rich in the first place. the mistake is we put our free market resources into a dictatorship. if we funded india, india would be rich. I've literally never met and India who was unintelligent. India is poor because they never got any factories due to their endless supply of people.
Connor Sanchez
lol no. India is a hopeless 3rd word shithole that will never improve.
>democracy for 1 billion+ people who speak different languages.
it's like the Indians are clinically retarded.
Jace Collins
The Lynn IQ maps are intellectually dishonest.
I wouldn't say IQ itself is a faulty concept but being able to recognise and solve patterns is but a part of what constitutes intelligence. For argument's sake, let's consider IQ as the only indicator of intelligence, even so the IQ maps that are commonly posted in this website are by Lynn who has manipulated data to a massive degree to supplement his racist ideologies. He did this via various methods, first of all by age differences in the various samples collected. He'd do IQ tests on little children, he even did IQ tests on patients in mental institutions and painted that as the actual representatives of the country's IQ. On many occasions he ignored good IQ results and only selected the bad ones, especially in sub Saharan African countries.
You should read up more about Lynn's IQ studies and their attempts to spread misinformation.
Unfortunately, Jow Forums just sees a map/infograph and makes no attempt to research to see if it's even true and just starts spreading it around.
Nicholas Ward
Oh even more!!
>they keep funding and supporting North Korea
>they trick Korean escapees into sexual slavery in China
>they make people disappear if they even speak up against the government
>they massacre their own people then make it illegal to talk about it
>they pimp out their celebrities to producers
>they have no support for poor people, who live in apartment building basements in knock up houses during the warmer parts of the year
>they let gangs use disabled people to beg for money on the streets
Aiden Hill
The Democracy was installed by Anglos. Democracy is not free market. If we built the factories in India; India would be rich, but we built it in China.
Benjamin Allen
I;m sorry but about about 80% of all technological discoveries and inventions in recorded history came from people of European ancestry.
Gabriel Ward
Lynn's findings have been replicated by Rushton amongst others. You can complain about his methodology, but other methodologies have returned the results, so whatever the faults of the method it didn't seriously plague the data.
Michael Sullivan
Factories have been built in India since the Portuguese partially colonised the subcontinent in the 17th century. 16th century even.
Logan Anderson
I don’t intend to disagree with you for the most part but..
>>moves factories coastal so the smog is blown to other countries
This one is factually untrue. It makes no sense on the economic level to do so. Contrary to this claim, recent annual data shows the air quality in coast China has been steadily improving.
P.S. NASA has revealed that a quarter of the world’s increase in green areas in 21st century is attributed to China.
earthobservatory.nasa.gov
Joshua Johnson
>complaints that Chinese workers have unsafe conditions
Did you ever read The Jungle where it talks about the horrors of the meat packing industry in the US?
>complaints that Chinese products are unsafe
Did you ever hear of the DC-10 crash in 1979 or how Ralph Nader wrote a book about the poor safety of the American automobile industry?
>complaints that China oppresses its citizens and denies them human rights
Why were black people kept as slaves for hundreds of years?
>complaints that China oppresses Tibetans and other ethnic minorities
What happened to Native Americans?
>complaints that China poaches endangered animals
What happened to the passenger pigeon? Why did American hunters almost wipe out the buffalo?
Bentley Edwards
Urban Tokyo has the same population density as urban Madrid, I wouldn't call that "crowded"
Logan Moore
I could stare at this map for hours. It's so data-heavy, you can understand half of the world's problems just glancing over it.
Dominic Edwards
>I've literally never met and India who was unintelligent.
My guess is you've never been in a taxi or similar locomotion.
Jackson Jackson
The Jungle was a fictional farce written by a communist. The writer, Upton Sinclair, had never entered a meat-packing house at the time of writing.
Jonathan Myers
doesnt explain why italians are smartest 'white' people but live in a modern shithole
Jose Lee
Italy's IQ is held up by the Northern Italians. Also Italy is not a shithole, it has a higher gdp per capita than South Korea and has historically been the richest region of Europe.
Hudson Wilson
and where should those factories be built?The strength of China is their central planning and more importantly the ability to carry out such planning in a timely matter.
Corporations don't have time for BS like land acquisition and environmental concern and fairness in distribution of wealth.
Do you think infrastructure projects in the scale of China's will fly anywhere else? I can already hear
>what about food, water, healthcare, pension
>why does the train not go through our town
>why does X state have all the chip factory whereas we only have chemical plants
plus, shit like this
commondreams.org
150 MILLION workers went on strike. Like what the fuck?
also some crackheads would go abroad and learn about (((((macro-economic))))) then incite people to adopt the policies of the nations that grow 1-2% a year.
The CCP don't have time for your ((((economic)))) """""models and theories"""""
Pic related
It is ironic that the Chinese are often accused of copying the West while the only thing that makes them the superpower they are today: economic policy is the anti-thesis of everything the West lives by
Austin Barnes
It wasn't fictional and everything was correct.
Jace Anderson
No
>The fictitious characters of Sinclair’s novel tell of men falling into tanks in meat-packing plants and being ground up with animal parts, then made into “Durham’s Pure Leaf Lard.” Historian Stewart H. Holbrook writes, “The grunts, the groans, the agonized squeals of animals being butchered, the rivers of blood, the steaming masses of intestines, the various stenches . . . were displayed along with the corruption of government inspectors” and, of course, the callous greed of the ruthless packers.
Kevin Roberts
I'm continually amazed at how terrible American public education is. Some commie writes a fictional book about factories grinding people into mincemeat and your government teaches 7 year olds that it was groundbreaking journalism justifying current overregulation of US industry.
Chase Harris
I wonder what the ((())) will do about China if they completely supplant the West.
Camden Long
>Squints eyes
>Clears throat
Veey, my ferrow Wongs. Us Asians must unite against the white man.
Benjamin Lopez