cheer up French anons, there are lots of anons here who still love you
besides the real church is the one in the heart of every French Christian, and no one will ever take that away from you!
Cheer up French anons, there are lots of anons here who still love you
David Adams
Tyler Carter
Imagine her taking a ugh....GROSSDEUTSCHESSCHWANZ
Jordan Lee
Sweden
No
Asher Hughes
> French Christian
Tuga the only french Christians left are the portuguese expats
Adam Lewis
Thanks.
Honestly the worst was averted, I would've cried if the church collapsed before the firemen managed to save the structure. It's a piece of heritage gone, but we've rebuilt the Reims Cathedral after a fire once. I just hope the renovation will do it justice.
John White
Did famed French philosopher Louis Cachet set fire to Notre Dame?
John Parker
>Tuga the only french Christians left are the portuguese expats
so Paris is still 90% Christian then lol
very very happy the interior and the relics are saved
don't worry France, it'll be rebuilt!
Liam Jenkins
For what we know it could have been one of your countrymen, fucking tugas live for construction work, you stole all the jobs to the poor Rumanians here
Christopher White
that's mostly the older immigrants, younger immigrants tend to have college degrees and move to EU countries like France, Luxembourg and Germany because wages here are shit
but maybe it was a 50 something year old Portuguese construction worker that fucked it up lol
Jason Myers
So when are you leaving GuP tuga?
Jason Carter
next year when my university course is done
I love Portugal, but I'm not staying here to enjoy low salaries and constant strikes
William Jackson
Imagine being Fr*nch right now. Imagine seeing your Fr*nch church in flames by some useless construction worker, who took all the jobs from the useless Fr*nch ""people."""
Imagine smelling like STINKY CHEESE and SURRENDERING. Imagine my post if it said anything original. Now, imagine being Fr*nch again and you can resume crying.
Justin Watson
it's euro time right now on Jow Forums so most of us are sympathetic, last night was full on amerimutt shitposting, the worst I have ever seen. You could see the envy and hatred they have for european culture and history.
Bentley Cox
imagine being a literal who country with my country's flag on top of yours, a country so irrelevant that people forgot to put it on maps
Elijah Mitchell
I thought it was only an issue in the countryside while Lisbon having a more "european" lifestyle, I also hope I leave this forsaken country in the following years
Gabriel Cox
>heart of every French Christian
All dozen of them?
Landon Reed
Australia has a lot of wild fires and surrendered against emus, you're not one to talk.
Mason Mitchell
何よりこれで戦車に乗っちゃうのがかわいい
Adam Flores
what did he mean by this
Noah Garcia
nah m8, we're emigration champs
Justin Hughes
!
Jason Nelson
Fuck off they exist. I have a friend who's family are all dieheart christians but you burgers wouldn't know, you probably can't even place the fucking Vatican on a map
Cameron Howard
see what I mean literally doesnt even make sense
Jose Green
Christianity is fucking disgusting and all Abrahamic religions should be given the same respect as my little pony.
Eli Clark
If you can't understand that post, then you need to to go back to school
Ayden Sullivan
Idk why people are as sad as they are, yeah it sucks the roof is gone but the important bits like the Rosetta windows and all the arches are still there right?
Andrew Miller
20% is pretty high.. We have 9% but it's get more common and apparently more or less every two out of every thousand leave to live abroad.
Juan Gonzalez
with those numbers we could fit right in with the former Yugoslavs
Sebastian Hughes
b&r
Charles Ward
Jonathan Bell
Sure we'll restore it. The problem is that you can't fabricate antiquity. The 13th century roof is unfortunately lost.
Isaac Gomez
Quite sure they also burned, actually
Nicholas Thomas
l'm sad l'll probably never see it irl while l'm alive
Easton Roberts
what is there to understand? Are there only 12 french citizens? Are you referring to minorites (smaller percentage than yours) who are citizens anyway?
Zachary Ortiz
it's not fair
any other building in Paris could have burned, why did it have to be la Notre Dame de Paris?
William Clark
Same. I never visited it even though I've been to Paris several times, because I had other things to do and I thought I could go another time. I'm frankly dejected right now.
Jace Murphy
the relics are saved, the towers are undamaged. It needs a new spire (only 200 years old) and new roof. It will be rebuilt and it will be glorious
Ethan Jackson
GOD HATES THE FRENCH
Jayden Thompson
Well the roof is certainly the biggest loss here; it was a medieval masterpiece. So I hope that whatever they build to replace it will do the cathedral justice.
Jordan Rodriguez
watch the 1st 10 seconds, the Cathedral appears
youtu.be
you haven't been there have you? because l remember you told me you didn't go to Paris.
>Same. I never visited it even though I've been to Paris several times, because I had other things to do and I thought I could go another time.
what the fuck, but the interior where Napoleon enthroned himself is relative recoverable it seems...
Aaron Sullivan
no he doesn't, if he did why did he send Jeanne to save them then?
Liam Lopez
I have been to Paris, was there in 2015 actually
I think you might be confusing me with another user
Henry Morris
ah so you've already seen it, l've heard the rose window is great, how was it? l like rose windows(Oriental tourist tier impression)
Colton Jones
Do it again he who shall not be named as of recent
Alexander Williams
>what the fuck
I never went to Paris as a tourist, that's why. I had to juggle between stuff like visiting family and the places I wanted to see, which was tedious. So I've been to the Louvre, Versailles, the Eiffel Tower and Les Invalides, and Notre-Dame was supposed to be next. I messed up.
>the interior where Napoleon enthroned himself is relative recoverable it seems...
I guess so...
Luis Perez
it was beautiful, but I'm going to trigger the French anons by saying I thought Mosteiro dos Jerónimos (which is Portuguese Gothic monastery in Lisbon) was prettier
Jaxon Foster
>So I've been to the Louvre, Versailles, the Eiffel Tower and Les Invalides, and Notre-Dame was supposed to be next.
how important is the Cathedral for French people? how do you rate it on a scale from 1 to 10 bother historically and touristically?
>but I'm going to trigger the French anons by saying I thought Mosteiro dos Jerónimos (which is Portuguese Gothic monastery in Lisbon) was prettier
hahah, l just checked it and the courtyard is great.
Cameron Reed
>Grandpa is posting sakura taisen
Owen Perez
>best example of French Gothic
>Nappy's crowning place
>Hugo's novel
10, the only places I would rank higher are the Louvre, Versailles and possibly the Reims Cathedral
Anthony Bennett
Hired a helicopter and am going to be doing a poo on the ruins tomorrow at twelve. Nothing will stop me
Christian Foster
over the hills and far away
Henry Robinson
what about a French Mistral surfice to air missile?
will that stop you?
Cameron Campbell
>Hugo's novel
Q-quasimodo... haven't read Notre Dame de Paris yet.
>10, the only places I would rank higher are the Louvre, Versailles and possibly the Reims Cathedral
b-but what about this...?
Nathaniel Wilson
>Louvre
I think that glass pyramid looks dumb and out of place
what do you think about that?
Hunter Barnes
m.youtube.com
praise jesus
Luis Wood
>haven't read Notre Dame de Paris yet.
It's not too late, mon chou.
>b-but what about this...?
Well you said "both historically and touristically". From a purely touristic standpoint, I'd rank the Mont higher, but Notre-Dame has more historical significance.
Oliver Sanchez
honestly l like the pyramid, Grand Projet. it's provocative in a good way for me
Caleb Robinson
I 100% agree, it's not even pretty. Versailles also had some dumb structure that looked out of place right next to the gardens when I visited. It was so useless that I don't even remember what it looked like, and I think they removed it.
Luis Jackson
>It's not too late, mon chou
J'ai commencé à lire madame de Bovary pour toi, je ne sais pas quand je le lirai hahah
>From a purely touristic standpoint, I'd rank the Mont higher
(´・∀・｀) l want to go there with you as it represents France for me. also the jigsaw puzzle took me 40 hours
>but Notre-Dame has more historical significance.
yeah, things like Carcassonne and Rocamadour have less historic values than the Cathedral of Notre Dame too prolly. Avignon must be 10/10
Zachary Turner
>J'ai commencé à lire madame de Bovary pour toi, je ne sais pas quand je le lirai hahah
Superbe... je vais surement avancer plus lentement que toi parce que je suis en période de révision, par contre. J'ai deux épreuves ce week-end, et quelques autres le lundi et mardi, et puis nous pourrons faire avancer ce エロsimulreading...
>(´・∀・｀) l want to go there with you as it represents France for me.
Let's add that to our list of things we want to do together then. It's getting quite long...
>also the jigsaw puzzle took me 40 hours
Oh, you've finally completed it? The last time you told me about it, you weren't anywhere done.
>yeah, things like Carcassonne and Rocamadour have less historic values than the Cathedral of Notre Dame too prolly. Avignon must be 10/10
Yeah, they're still beautiful places though.
>Avignon
youtube.com
Nathaniel Collins
there's nothing inherently wrong with a modern style, but dumping it right smack in the middle of the courtyard looks very out of place
Tyler Hughes
>J'ai deux épreuves ce week-end, et quelques autres le lundi et mardi,
ah tu feras quoi?
> et puis nous pourrons faire avancer ce エロsimulreading...
ouaip... uwu
>Let's add that to our list of things we want to do together then. It's getting quite long...
yees when l finally go to France again.
>Oh, you've finally completed it? The last time you told me about it, you weren't anywhere done.
yes, one friend partly helped me do it and yet it was such a pain in the ass lol
ah the 3rd wheel thingy, does Portugal have such things too?
Ethan Jackson
In addition to the many Muslims celebrating the fire, a large number of progressives and racial minorities from the English-speaking countries are also claiming that France deserves this tragedy
Sebastian Cook
I don't think so, but Germany apparently has a really bad one
Xavier Cruz
hate the progressives a hell of a lot more then I could ever hate a muslim
they are truly sickening individuals
Matthew Cruz
>ah tu feras quoi?
Épreuves = exams!
Matthew Lewis
hahah, Reichstag Berlin has that kind of modernistic dome on top of the neo-classical building
Luke Hughes
>Épreuves = exams!
oh je vois! till which point have you read Madame de Bovary? l read till the point where Charles and Emma made their first love
Lucas Bell
that city has got bombed so often I'm not sure any of the building are original lol
Robert Bailey
I read until the part they're invited to a ball and Emma falls in love with high society.
Joseph Cook
Shut up Kiwicuck.
Cooper Young
l got sad when l heard Nuernberg burned to ashes and the today's one is basically totally rebuilt. also "Nuern" is a Japanese onomatopoeia when you shit, so l associate scatology with the city along with Meistersinger and Nazis
Jacob Hill
Every city with a pop of +100k was completely razed and most of the architecture that was 'preserved' are Disneyland-tier reconstructions. If you want to see the remains of authentic German architecture you have to go to smaller cities.
Easton Gonzalez
>I read until the part they're invited to a ball and Emma falls in love with high society
ok then, l will catch up with you by our special day. Flaubert is really good at describing food, remember the scene where the marriage is carried out? the depiction of their wedding cake... enhanced by my adoration for French cuisine, l was almost drooling... this absolutely bucolic scene will contrast with and enhance her decadence...
Michael Lopez
>also "Nuern" is a Japanese onomatopoeia when you shit, so l associate scatology with the city along with Meistersinger and Nazis
hahahahahahaha
Charles Lewis
I'll be visiting Berlin later this year
is it true you can still see differences between West and East Berlin?
Brayden Lewis
you don't even know how Nuernberg comes off to me, when l hear the name of the city, die Meistersinger von Nuernberg echoes in my brain, and then the image of defecation follows the solemn overture, and then Hitler starts speech in them, and then finally the red town comes up in my mind
youtu.be
Justin Mitchell
>ok then, l will catch up with you by our special day.
オッケー Flaubert is really good at describing food, remember the scene where the marriage is carried out? the depiction of their wedding cake... enhanced by my adoration for French cuisine, l was almost drooling... this absolutely bucolic scene will contrast with and enhance her decadence...
Oh, description is definitely Flaubert's forte. Have you ever heard about how obsessive he was about making perfect sentences, with perfect descriptions and stuff, so much that his bin was filled with rough drafts that would make a very fine novel by themselves? He was an absolute perfectionist, more so than any other European author.
Zachary Brown
that's pretty damn funny Japan
Charles Diaz
your 9% are pulling the strings in the usa
Matthew Ward
>Have you ever heard about how obsessive he was about making perfect sentences, with perfect descriptions and stuff, so much that his bin was filled with rough drafts that would make a very fine novel by themselves?
l read that he basically packed himself in some rural village with his sister and mother. no wonder he went kinda paranoia and went turbo obsessed with carving and polishing his literary sculpture. it's kinda off topic but there's this famous French literature Japanese scholar 蓮實重彦 Hasumi Shigehiko, and he wrote "On Madame de Bovary" which is made of fugging 2000 pages. l once saw the book and it was thick enough to hit people to death. ca veux dire le roman est assez profond...
Tyler Gray
absolutely "killable"
Benjamin Clark
>l read that he basically packed himself in some rural village with his sister and mother. no wonder he went kinda paranoia and went turbo obsessed with carving and polishing his literary sculpture.
Yep. Also unrelated to this, it's interesting to note the inspirations that led Flaubert to make the characters of Charles and Emma. His father was a surgeon, so he had a vast knowledge of medicine, allowing him to portray the "médecin incompétent" Charles, and Emma, I think, was based off a short story he read on a journal, and the characters from novels belonging to the romantic movement he once loved, but decided to go against by doing realism.
>there's this famous French literature Japanese scholar 蓮實重彦 Hasumi Shigehiko, and he wrote "On Madame de Bovary" which is made of fugging 2000 pages. l once saw the book and it was thick enough to hit people to death. ca veux dire le roman est assez profond...
>translated Deleuze, Derrida and Barthes
>helped Kitano with his career
Wtf he sounds super based. I didn't know him.
Brayden Ramirez
It's not as big as my Code civil des français™ but it looks more compact so definitely more dangerous...
But yeah, Madame Bovary is probably very deep. We'll know when we've finished it.
Brandon Peterson
>but decided to go against by doing realism
what did he mean by making her go against romanticism, did he want to shit on it :thinking:
also when you give some novel a read, do you roughly grasp how the story goes on, how it is reviewed, and what it tries to express by reading book reviews?
Ethan Rogers
>We'll know when we've finished it.
uwu
Isaiah Wright
>what did he mean by making her go against romanticism, did he want to shit on it :thinking:
Well she's a reader of romantic novels herself, so she's a romanticist in a realistic setting. It's not shitting on it per se but marking a break from the movement, maybe?
>also when you give some novel a read, do you roughly grasp how the story goes on, how it is reviewed, and what it tries to express by reading book reviews?
Only after I'm done reading it. I try to learn about the author a bit before reading though, it obviously ensures that you have a better understanding of the book. What about you?
Austin Moore
>Well she's a reader of romantic novels herself, so she's a romanticist in a realistic setting. It's not shitting on it per se but marking a break from the movement, maybe?
ah l misread your post, l didn't even know she was a dreamer by the point l read the novel,
>Only after I'm done reading it. I try to learn about the author a bit before reading though, it obviously ensures that you have a better understanding of the book.
> What about you?
unless it's entertainment, l make it a rule to grasp how a story starts, goes on and finally ends, and then give read book reviews, and start reading it at last, as for me entity of a book has a meaning in every chapter, and without knowing what l stated above, it's a bit hard to "integrate" the whole part of the book. without them l tend to read a book brokenly, ending up understanding it less efficiently.
although l said so, not even knowing Madame de Bovary likes to read romantic novels contradicts my statement lol
Easton Diaz
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Jaxson Stewart
>ah l misread your post, l didn't even know she was a dreamer by the point l read the novel
Oh don't worry mon chou, it becomes apparent soon.
>l make it a rule to grasp how a story starts, goes on and finally ends, and then give read book reviews
I think that's the correct way to go about it. The most important thing is to have your own reading of the book, and then you can complete with what critics and reviewers have to say, but it's completely optional.
>as for me entity of a book has a meaning in every chapter, and without knowing what l stated above, it's a bit hard to "integrate" the whole part of the book. without them l tend to read a book brokenly, ending up understanding it less efficiently.
Hmm, well I can't say I've ever felt that way about chapters. I've always thought that their significance depended on the novel and on the author. But that's an interesting way to see it.
Hudson Torres
>Hmm, well I can't say I've ever felt that way about chapters. I've always thought that their significance depended on the novel and on the author.
l think "every chapter" is a bit exaggerated, l should've said "the beginning, the middle part and the ending". well although l said l tend to acquire preliminary knowledge, it's basically a bit more than the outline of Wikipedia article on some book after all. and good book reviews are good guidance for deepening my understanding while l am in the process of reading it, but it depends on people after all... in fact the way of my perusal is pretty different.
can you recommend me 1 French novel?
Samuel Powell
So that's your thought process when you read a book...
>in fact the way of my perusal is pretty different
Yeah, that's pretty specific. I like learning about your quirks, though...
>can you recommend me 1 French novel?
How about Liaisons dangereuses by Choderlos de Laclos? It's a very original novel.
Nathaniel Clark
>I like learning about your quirks, though...
w-when l speak English and talk about somewhat complicated topics which necessitate complex English structure, l tend to repeat the same sentence and it gives people a stupid impression (´>///Liaisons dangereuses
ah ok, then l'll give it a read within 3 months mon chipie o_o
Hunter Morris
>w-when l speak English and talk about somewhat complicated topics which necessitate complex English structure, l tend to repeat the same sentence and it gives people a stupid impression (´>///ah ok, then l'll give it a read within 3 months mon chipie o_o
Nice. It's the only epistolary novel I've read other than Lettres persanes, and it tackles the themes of libertinage/decadence in the French nobility right before the Revolution. So I'm sure it'll interest you.
Leo Cooper
>if you do this in front of me, then expect a headpat coming out of nowhere
Je rougirai... En fait j'ai des amis online que je parle avec en anglais, et je parle l'anglais de temps en temps en réalité aussi, honnêtement je le butcher rarement dans le deuxième cas car je peux utiliser la langue physique éloquente. Mais donne-moi headpat même quand...
>So I'm sure it'll interest you.
l knew the book but it didn't really intrigue me as it gave me an impression of mere romance, but if you like it then it's worthy of reading
Evan Ramirez
>Mais donne-moi headpat même quand...
Mais bien sûr, je n'ai pas besoin de raison pour t'en donner... *ナデナデナデナデナデナデ*
>l knew the book but it didn't really intrigue me as it gave me an impression of mere romance, but if you like it then it's worthy of reading
Lel, it's pretty much the opposite of romance.
Nathaniel Smith
Tu peux causer avec moi par phone ?
Nathaniel Baker
>peux
*veux
Mais les deux sont essentiellement le même quand même
Brody Wilson
Are you asking my phone number, chouchou?
Oliver Wilson
O-u-i, mais je préfère ce style épistolaire quand on texte. Ceci dit on a à décider comment on téléphonera