Japan's immigration policy

Hey, Wang. You are not welcome here.

They could also lower costs so people can afford to have kids... you know.. instead of selling out to the globalism jew

They shouldn't bring any immigrants in period. At most give people work visas for a year.

They already do that. There is plenty of other asians in Japan from my knowlege. Japfags can explain better?

In the case they're not able to satisfy their immigration needs with other Buddhist Asians, they should prioritize Filipinos and Whites.
I'm not Asian. Please give serious answer :(

Same type of Asian doesn't matter. If you think SEA people look the same as East Asian you're wrong. You could talk about exceptions but then that would also apply to people in India, Nepal and Bhutan who look East Asian. The Nepalis are South Asian looking anyway for the most part. So are the Burmese, half of them are SEA looking and half are Indian looking. Appearance doesn't matter, culture does and that's why they are taking a lot of Nepalis and Burmese.
I'm South Asian, you mong. Obviously the average Japanese is gonna have a bit of a culture shock seeing groups of Sri Lankans in their country.

Yeah, well that's probably not gonna happen. Everyone always said that Japan was never gonna let immigrants in big numbers but their PM already opened up the way for bigger immigration and nobody even cared as far as I'm aware.

At least this way they wouldn't become Europe-tier.

Your English skill is not literally native one.
Try harder, dog shit.

>they should prioritize Filipinos
Fuck no
Have you ever interacted with Filipinos?

japan has loads of africans from africa so i don't think so

They don't need migrants, they need robots

You should've mentioned you're a pedantic South Asian in the first place. Fact of the matter is that SEAs look closer to East Asians and that's just the way it is. Yeah, okay there are some Asian looking people in India's northeast but that's not who people think when they think or talk of Indians.

>I'm South Asian
What are you doing in Mexico? Tourism?

Yes. What do you dislike about them?
Is there any way I can talk to a non-autistic Japanese?

That's literally what they are doing. 5 year visas. The problem that a lot of anti-globalists (idk, that's what they call themselves) have is that this is usually the beginning. It's just gonna get more lax and relaxed and people will be able to apply for residency or profession-based visas etc. This is how it starts. And I'm not even talking about the people that are gonna overstay their visas if anything.
There are other sorts of problems too, with whether family members should be allowed to come or not.

Is "autism" the only slur you know?

No, but I wish I could get a real answer from you instead of autistic screeching about Chinese

>Yes. What do you dislike about them?
They're the Mexicans of Asia
Come into your country, have tons of kids all that are fat, then segregate together and stink up the place

Japan has a rate of up to 161 autism cases per 10,000. It's the most autistic nation on Earth.
As an autistic I wish I was born there tho

Why not bring the japanoids from all over the rest of the World (like Brazil or Peru) back?

>have tons of kids all that are fat, then segregate together
There's a group in America that doesn't do this?

No one wants to work in Japan because they are abusive as fuck to their foreign workers. They had pilot project and Japanese companies actually worked the temp workers like slaves.

They are already doing It
Btw many of them does not resemble the local culture

How do you feel getting ruled your economy by those "autistic" immigrants? lol

No feelings in special.

We don't need Chinks, Muzzies and wh*Toids

simple as

That's not my experience with them.
Didn't know that.

Why don't Shinzo Abe legalizes rape and forced impregnation to raise the population like the doujin I read once?

They already do that, but obviously looking to other countries would increase the scope of people to choose from.

Also, a lot of those "Japanese" are mixed with the locals already and are pretty much not Japanese anymore, either in culture or in appearance so I think that would kinda defeat the benefit of bringing in people "close" to them.

Most immigrants in Japan aren't Buddhist.

No, I'm saying that in my experience, the majority of Nepalese and a significant amount of Burmese IN Japan are not mongoloids. I didn't write that clearly, my bad.
>Fact of the matter is that SEAs look closer to East Asians
never said otherwise
>okay there are some Asian looking people in India's northeast
It's not just the north east, it's the north (north of cow belt) and east as well. And it's not "some", at least 70 million. Anyway, India was just an example, I don't think the average Indian has any intention of going to Japan anyway. It's mostly the Middle East for all the laborers while the educated ones go to the Anglosphere so Japan doesn't have to worry about India.
>but that's not who people think when they think or talk of Indians
yes, we're used to it.
Sure but we are talking about the immigrants that Japan is currently accepting. They released a list of countries (or at least that's what all the news sites were alluding to) and iirc, it was Nepal, Bhutan, a bunch of SEA countries and a few more. Japan isn't denying any African people, but they aren't gonna be taking in many immigrants from them. Plus don't they have a bad reputation? In India, Nigerians have a reputation of peddling drugs and all that.
Studying Spanish and chilling. Wanted something different.
There are a lot of cases of people being abused and having to change jobs because of their abusive bosses. There is this agency in Japan that protects the rights and interests of these migrant workers and one of the head lawyers has said that unless the government gets its shit together in protecting migrant workers, this is never gonna work out. Even people that are sponsored by the Japanese government from different countries to train in Japanese industries get abused and put into manual labor.

It's all a bit of a shit show to be honest. And automation isn't a solution, at least not for another 20 years.

What about other non-Chinese non-Muslim Asians?

Like if you HAD to allow some groups into your country, wouldn't you prefer if they were also Asian and with a Buddhist background?

>Chinese are smart people. Why do you hate them?

lul

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Yeah, I think it would be better if you prioritized Buddhist immigrants, don't you think? Since Japan's culture has a Buddhist influence it would be easier for them to adapt

I Wonder If japanese ppl in America also go to live in Japan. There are many japanese in Hawaii

what is to be gained from an increasing population when automation is going to put more and more people out of work? Japan is in a great position to have a naturally shrinking population at a time when that will benefit the countries stability in the long run.

That's an interesting take on this whole immigration bullshit

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No it's not

Japanese culture is about submission. I think it the more important aspect of their culture: shut the fuck up, follow orders and do whatever your god (also known as: boss, senpai, customer) tells you.

Yes, I wonder how the government is gonna fund the R&D with all this automation, the implementation and the maintenance when people aren't working. Who is gonna pay taxes? Who is gonna spend in the economy? Are people gonna be comfortable without someone in the service industry? I imagine people in hospitals would rather have someone living next to them too.
How will people get their wages if they aren't working? UBI? We all know how successful that has been. I don't think any government in their right mind would let their people have all the free time in the world.
Tell me this, why would industries deal with automation when manual labor (from anywhere) is cheaper? Manual labor is still the most important part of manufacturing today. Don't let the machines working in automative factories fool you.

a country that suffers an economic crisis can recover but a country that suffers mass immigration might not

Why isn't Japan investing in engineering human clones? They can pay poor woman to be womb for rent and the state can be the artificial children legal guardians.

Robots can't do dirty jobs like construction or farming and that's what Japan needs right now.

>why would industries deal with automation when manual labor (from anywhere) is cheaper?
There is going to be a point where it is not cheaper
yet

I've only really heard of Brazilian and Peruvian Japanese going back and the wiki page only mentions legislation allowing Japanese descendants to go back in reference to South America
If there's no need then my post is just irrelevant and you can ignore it

>We all know how successful that has been

It worked in one town in Manitoba.

>yet
and won't be for many years user.

>just ignore opinions you disagree with
is this how leafs actually think?

so you still want a large population of foreigners sitting around out of work when it does happen?

What is the cow belt? You mean the region in the Himalayas?
I think that if immigration has to happen it should be from countries that are culturally and ethnically close.

Obviously it's not entirely without its faults but at the end of the day it's much harder to discriminate against people who share a similar culture and look kinda the same as you than against someone who's you can tell it's foreign from a mile away. The effects of immigration and the feelings of getting replaced will also be much more pronounced if the immigrants stick like a sore thumb.

The population of foreigners in Japan is tiny as fuck and still would be tiny because no one wants to move to Japan.

And then it will just move to a cheaper location. Industries are moving from China to India and SEA. China itself is outsourcing manufacturing to Africa. China is still the big dog but China is transitioning to a service economy. As long as Capitalism exists (AND climate change doesn't fuck things up drastically), it will keep going to the cheaper option. Right now, not only is automation not at a stage we can call ready for society, manual labor is cheaper. Regulations are also more lax in developing countries.
And it's not just domestic reasons too, you know. It's also geopolitics. Japan's economy is in the gutter. South Korea is growing at 3% a year. India is gonna overtake them by 2025-2026. And China is obviously the boss here. Geopolitical clout depends on military and GDP among other things. Not per capita incomes. Their government obviously doesn't care about the whole "world is overpopulated" shtick. They care about the economy.

>because no one wants to move to Japan.
hahaha........ what?

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>but at the end of the day it's much harder to discriminate against people who share a similar culture and look kinda the same as you than against someone who's you can tell it's foreign from a mile away.

Holy shit you really think that was ever the case? People discriminate over frivolous bullshit if they can.

Where are you from? If you don't mind me asking
I just don't want like half the replies to be like "Okay, but how about they don't take any immigrants" "But user they should invest in automation. Fuck immigrants!!"

Maybe they don't want to emigrate because they are already in 1st world.

>lol humans are evil
>you'll always be discriminated for something so might as well introduce even more ways to discriminate and increase tension!
Fuck off with your platitude bullshit

Just import qts from Mongolia that can work at farms (women there are use to share the burden of hard work with their husbands) and breed with mens in the rural areas.

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Would you say Japan recovered? They seem more like in a coma to me.
Cowbelt - Bihar, UP, Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh. It's called the cow belt because they are the most religious and backwards states. Also least developed. Cow lynchings, rapes, weird ass stories of Indian people doing weird things, etc - 99% chance it's from the cow belt. They are also called Bimaru States (an acronym of those four states). Bimaru means diseased.

What are you talking about? Islam is perfect for Japan.

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When automation becomes cheap enough, it will eclipse the traditional overseas shipped goods model. When you can build products anywhere at the same generally low cost of labor, you will have many situations where it will be far cheaper to build the product at the location where it will be sold rather than build it overseas and have it shipped.

Shoo shoo
Come back when you're Majapahit again

So people in Uttarakhand and Himachal Pradesh look Asian?

>Would you say Japan recovered?
i'm talking about the future, not the past

People specialize. More jobs will always appear and automation wont snuff out the need for people, that's what they'd gain from an increasing pop. But I do actually agree with you that the nation is in a populatuion sweetspot at the moment.

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This, islam is perfectly compatible with the japanese society.

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Lailahailallah Muhammad Rasulullah

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How do you know it's automation becoming cheap and not other places being more expensive?
Regardless of what happens in the future and how it happens, now is not that time and like I've said, if Japan has any geopolitical ambitions, they'd be smarter to do something about it NOW rather than wait for an ideal future while everyone else in Asia takes over.
And if automation develops to a level that can be used in society, you're gonna run into problems I've stated I feel like automation has become this sort of crutch in these kind of discussions. It's a non factor right now and Japan doesn't have the time. I guarantee we would have less of these discussions if Japan's economy was still going strong as far as developed economies go, but their economy is in the shitter. SK has an even worse problem with population but their growth is at least going strong (they have their own problems though)

Please don't post content like this, there are better ways to disparage them without showing sad animals

Yes. Islam will bring back the glory of the Japanese people. Right now Japanese society is pacified by the western secular devil, causing them to lose their way. Islam will fix this.

In that case chinese workhorses would be great immigrants then wouldn't they?

>Japan doesn't have the time
time for what? Do you seriously think that a decreasing population is going to ruin them? You are delusional. Population is no signifier for success. They can be successful with a small population it they want to be, many countries do so.

Half the population in those states have SEA features. Himachal Pradesh is also where the legitimate Tibetan government is so you have a lot of Tibetan people there. Kashmir has many regions, different religions and different people. Some are mongoloid. East has a lot of SEA looking people too. NE is mostly East Asian looking. NE is just more well known for this because the vast majority are mongoloid while in the East and North you have other populations as well.
They haven't recovered since their lost decade(s) (if you wanna count till 2010), there are accusations that their economic data is fudged, their economy is in the shitter. Senpai, I don't think they are in a position to recover atm. They've had 8 years since to do so and nothing has changed.

Inshallah Islam will rise in Japan

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It's okay, in that case die of old you and the rest of your country. Disgusting autistic insect.

allah willing my brother

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It's ruining their economy. What don't you get? The government doesn't give a shit about trying to be successful with a small population, you moron. They've already started accepting immigrants since early last year and they are planning to increase the amount. All those countries with smaller populations aren't as influential as Japan. Those countries count having developed infrastructure, education, high per capita incomes a success. Japan doesn't. Stop thinking in the point of view of what you think is correct and start thinking in terms of what Japan wants. Whatever they are doing right now is literally opposite of what you're saying.

you seem a little mad bro.

chile wtf

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>They can be successful with a small population it they want to be, many countries do so.

they tend to rely on foreign workers user.

Japan isn't some lone closed off island anymore. Their neighbors are getting stronger both economically and militarily. If you think Japan is okay with being shoved off to the sidelines because "hey, at least we are developed and our per capita income is 40k" then you're wrong and you know you're wrong. Immigration helps with whether you like it or not. And the whole, "muh terrorists" and "muh africans and their crimes" doesn't really work because they're careful with who they accept.

the cancer has metastasized

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You are retarded. Japan has history of discrimination against it's minorities. Why the fuck do you think it's any different today, especially in society that never really confronted it?

Literally who gives a damn about the economy? What good does a higher GDP do for the average citizen if is not directly improving their quality of life? If a Japanese citizen can live a safe and peaceful life now while their economy is "in the shitter" then what reason do they have to potentially threaten that quality of life by increasing immigration? More immigration will net the japanese lower wages, higher housing prices etc. Why would a person want that just to raise the GDP?

There are more important things than economy

i think he's just being a contrarian

Hahahaha
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Japan will be more prosperous with Islam.

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They don't seem to want more people. They need workers yes but they don't want them to settle. Also IRL japanese life sounds awful.