Anyone here studying in pharmacy school? I feel like I'm too dumb to get accepted into med school, so pharmacy is my next choice. How would you rate it?
Pharmacy school
As a former/drop-out bio and chem student, I was under the impression that anything pharma related is among the hardest fields of medicine/science.
>I feel like I'm too dumb to get accepted into med school, so pharmacy is my next choice.
kek that's exactly what women do here
I am doing pharmaceutical sciences ye. Don't study pharmacy if you want knowledge. Ultimately go do pharmaceutical sciences or something that focus solely on creating new medicines as bachelor and then do medschool in masters. You'll be the closest thing to the concept of god. Pharmacists are retards lel.
Become a registered nurse or something instead. Much more interesting work and much higher in demand (presently and in the future).
In my country when you get a MSc in Pharmacy you specialise in Pharmaceutical Science so there is that (i only applied for the 5 year BSc+MSc program). Idk if studying pharmaceutical science by itself is even possible
How is being a nurse interesting
For one thing, you could end up in this job.
Women are the grand majority of all med school students all over the western world to the point some enforce positive discrimination towards men now
Hmm. I can't google in finnish for you lad. Study something related to drug research, they're under many names. It is not possible you're not allowed to get a MSc in medicine if you do that, since the course has lots and loooots of anatomy as well since well you're finding out what kind of medicine cures diseases lel.
Yes wiping old people asses, how interesting
That's not what registered nurses do. You're thinking of nurse's aids.
That's pretty fucking cool actually. Didn't know waaambulance workers were nurses though. How big is the chance though? Most clean up shit and puke and draw blood.
Idk about Sweden, but in Finland pharmacist are in a huge demand too and average salary for master's degree holders in pharmacies is some 4500, even more if you work in industry. I'm interested if people recommend it and to hear opinions from those that have studied pharmacy as it certainly seems like a better option than nurse school.
most nurses here are idiots incapable of doing basic math but consider themselves to be far more important than medical doctors
Please give me an explanation to your course?
Would that mean your main source of work would be in the Hospital or Medical dispensaries?
Nayrt but I did some jobs in hospitals and they seem to be doing lots of stuff
Depends. If you only have a BSc you'll have to work in a pharmacy as a de facto dispenser for the rest of your life. If you get a MSc you have different options to work in pharmacies doing managerial jobs, hospitals, pharma industry etc.
In Finland the system is different. In the five years pharmacy program, one of the specialities you can take for the last two years is pharmacology and then you can even continue for a drug research, chemistry, toxicology etc. phd program after that
That's just a middle of the road salary, same as here. Their demand is decreasing in the future because it's easy to centralize. It just seems like a boring job, standing around in some pharmacy in a mall or whatever, selling topical creams and chewing gum in between refilling actual prescriptions.
Maybe. Just saying though, it's an option for you. I personally would never touch any field related to medicine. I am really disgusted by most people and I do not wish to serve them.
Not bad tho
Damn. If you're sure about that I just wanna say I'm very lucky to have been born in this swamp autistic shithole to pursue my path to be a medicine-elixir-doctor-man.
It's a specific nurse specialization here that you take at university. It's probably competitive, but in large countries like Sweden and Finland it may be more common than in say the Netherlands.
Idk man, 25% of MSc's in pharmacy here (to which I'm applying) work in industry. Only like 50% work in pharmacies, but they apparently have managerial level positions, like bossing around the regular pharmacists and pharmacy technicians.
Regular pharmacist work 90% of the time in pharmacies doing the boring stuff you tell me.
>That's just a middle of the road salary, same as here.
For people with similar levels of education obviously.
If you become a pharmacist can you make medicine?
Is 47k a month (i guess it would be that much when converted to SEK) a good salary for a master's degree holder in Sweden? I think pharmacist working in industry can get paid 60k a month there after gaining some experience.
Yeah, if you work in a pharmacy you'll be making medicine from time to time. If you mean research, then you would usually need a phd (and moving out of the country as virtually zero research is done here)
Belgian bro here
How do I enter medschool in the netherlands?
Other flags: how do I enter med school in your cunt?
I actually am in pharmacy school and have the last final (OTC products/herbals) of my 1st year in 1 hour
Are there any regulations as to what kind of medicine you can make? Like say Anarex for example? Do you need special permission to get some of its ingredient because they might constitute as a narcotic?
You have to sit through a super hard exam which consists of physics, chemistry and biology in Finnish or Swedish. Don't do it, it's pretty much impossible unless you know one of those two languages. I'll be taking the exam next month and i have been studying since last summer, yet i probably have no chance of getting in. Consider Italy, the exam is considerably easier, education is in English and the tuition fees are the same as in the Netherlands (maybe less in some schools)
>Pharmacy. How would you rate it?
420 blaze it
My grandma was one. It's a comfy job imo
Good luck user
Idk really, most of the stuff comes ready from central pharmaceutical places, you have to work in those if you want to make more medicine. In normal pharmacies you get to mix up medicine from time to time, though apparently they don't even do that anymore in smaller pharmacies in bigger cities, seems to be much more prevalent in big pharmacies and small cities.
It has special admission tests etc because all of Europe wants to study medicine here.
You have to take a test for which you need to be physically on site (to fuck with people who apply for 40 universities at once) and from there on get a draw based on your score
Do you need to take a different test in each university you apply to?
Yes.
Once again this is done to make it as hard as possible for foreigners
huh, here in the US we have the MCAT (medical college admissions test) but its universal and can be used to apply to any medschool.
Lol, here it's made hard by the fact that you can't take the test in English
They don't want the best, they have all these weird tests to make sure foreigners that apply for every med school we have don't make it.
Utrecht only has a 21% admission rate because half the admissions are a bunch of Italians and Romanians that don't show up
>mfw last year of nursing school
>mfw reading this thread
so this is what normies truly think of us...
nurses are pretty awesome iah
what speciality of nursing do you want to practice user
I dropped out. The masters course was good though but the people I hanged out with were toxic
probably pediatrics, it's the most rewarding work imho
I hate foreigners who only come here to study so fucking much. Fucking leechers. And they don't even have an interesting culture/personality like huemonkeys do as they come from some bitter eastern european shithole.
you should consider moving to the US
I know at least one of my friends is planning to move to the US and another who wants to move to Canada, but honestly I was thinking of moving to Ireland to avoid non-EU paperwork
I normally couldn't care less except when it's Spanish and Italian putas terrorizing the bike lane, however med schools cost a lot of money and ours are top tier. We shouldn't let any graduates leave the country
Not in pharmacy but i my undergrad was biology equivalent and i want to enroll at some point. Do it if resilience is a virtue and you are good at testing/memorization of terms/professional standards of ethics. Itll make or break you
Ah yes male nurses... Last time I was in a hospital, all the male nurse did was pick up my urine sample and bring me breakfast. What a great job.
That's pretty much what all hospital nurses do here. If you get to be a school/policlinic nurse though, you can consider yourself quite lucky. Medics have it ok too.
Chemist working in pharma here, gotta say I wouldn't recommend medicinal chemistry. I don't work in RnD myself, but this industry has long hours, a lot of paperwork, and a company will not think twice to burn your ass if something goes wrong on a process you were involved in. A buddy of mine is in pharmacy school, seems to dislike it quite a bit (I guess he puts in ~70 hours per week doing schoolwork).
But, it's a good job when it's all said and done.
I am and its shit
It's good that I'm only in the 2 year diploma programme or I would've killed myself
It's probably because the syallbus here is really outdated and the textbooks are shit
Why not get into medical school user?it seems more useful/fun
I'll try to get into med school, but I'm a total brainlet when it comes to physics and that is like one third of the exam
Use the feynman technique and practise a lot of problems
I just started pharmacy last week
Seems to be a tough degree but there also seems to be a huge demand for pharmacists here
I dunno if I'll be happy with it, if it's too hard or I don't wanna do it anymore I might become a paramedic or study something easy
btw I also tried to get into medicine but wasn't accepted so yeah...
How many years do pharmacist study in Germany?
Almost finishing pharmacy school, how hard is it to find a job? I heard its very competitve
Nurses lmfao thats like willingly become a slave
You do the grunt work and the doctor takes the credit
Go to a different country to study medicine, in western europe its extremely constricted and competitive. But I guess its free in finland.
ive visited every pharmacy within a 5 mile radius several times over in the last couple months to buy boxes of 8/500 cocodamol
lmao stupid pharmacycucks, to me you are nothing more than drug dealers with a card reader
>"dont take this medication for more than 3 consecutive days, don't take any other medication that may interact with it"
>"okay, i won't"
>go home and proceed to take the full box in one go while high on benzos and drinking alcohol
Regularly 8 semesters, so 4 years, but many need more time
Plus you have to do one year of apprenticeship in a pharmacy afterwards so all in all 5 years
In America pharmacy is not stable at all due to over saturation. Its extremely hard to find a job, and they will only give you part time/no benefits/no raises/no paid overtime and drop you at any moment because theres plenty of other grads with $200k student loan debt willing to work for shit pay.
You better be cold-water extracting out that paracetemol or you can expect long term liver damage, especially combined with the alcohol. Sometimes those "pharmacycucks" say those things for a reason
Pretty gud
yeah, of course i cwe it
unless i get 30/500 ones, then i just pop them
>Anyone here studying in pharmacy school?
About to finish my second year; pretty interesting stuff so far, would recommend
Don't give up already on going to med school though, you should study as hard as you can to get into it and if you fail you can start pharmacology with a clean conscience
>implying the pharmacies don't know fully well what you're doing and allow it to happen anyway to get more money out of you
Why do you think the opioid """crisis""" is still underway and growing worse each year?
Big pharma is leagues ahead of you
oh the thread is still up
I did ok on my final if anyone was interested. Made a B in the class but ill take it
do they have an equivalent here in the states? That seems much more specialized than general nursing.
I'm torn between career paths. I enjoy learning about STEM related curriculum but I don't think I would enjoy being stuck in research. And on the other hand I enjoy working with my hands/field work but don't like the idea of poor pay/menial work.
No but my friend's brother did. Its 7 years here.
Is it treated like a master's degree after that?
It's called state exam here (Staatsexamen)
Apart from most other degrees that have switched to the bachelor and master syst a few are exempted, I think medicine (regular/dental/veterinary), pharmacy and law are the three big ones that are not bachelor/master but Staatsexamen here
>I feel like I'm too dumb to get accepted into med school
It doesn't matter if you're smart or not. Medical school requires memorization and only a bit of analytic skills to link between the diseases and their symptoms.
Interesting, here it's the exact opposite. Especially if you are a man, they'll literally drag you to work.
Congrats user! What are your plans after graduating?
That's what caught my interest with pharma school. Unlike pretty most chem/bio/physics related degrees you have a certain job that you can work at, where unemployment is non existent, the pay is good (comparable to that of engineers and architects, even to doctors if you are lucky enough to land a industry or national agency job) and you you have lot's of different sectors to choose from when looking for a job. That is the situation in Europe though, apparently there's oversaturation in the USA, but your salaries are very good, more than our doctor salaries here.
hope to get into nuclear pharmacy, have some family friends that own a pharmacy that does the cancer drug compounding for a couple of hospitals and that greatly interests me
In my country the hard part is getting in (lot's of useless stuff in the entrance exam like ecology and physics). From those that get in, literally 99% graduate.
Same here. That way they can make sure the worst retards stay out so dropout rates aren't high