Is Warsaw the cringiest city in Eastern Europe?

Just go to Danzig if you want to visit a good looking polish city

>Polish

btw Gdańsk is one of the ugliest and most neglected cities in Poland outside the several tourist-dedicated streets (all of them are fake post-war reconstructions though)

Didn't like Russians showed Koreans how to build brick houses?

t. brainlets

But moscow is a beautiful city?

People dislike for no reason

Anything pertaining to Russia is worth resentment.

>cities
O czym ty pierdolisz rumunie
kto do kurwy mieszka w miastach
miasta są dla ciot

Actually Russians dislike it the most so other nations just follow.

Having said that, Moscow offers rather low quality of life - cold climate (it[s not anything you can change unfortunately), expensive real estate, relatively low wages as comparing to prices, endless traffic jams, ugly architecture outside the very centre. It does have a handful of advantages but they don't tip the balance.

>cold
oh really now
>ugly architecture outside the very centre
dumb fucking polack, moscow outside TTK is the best part

>rumunie

that's excessively rude, he's Macedonian, a direct descendant of Aleksandar Veljković

forgot pic

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>oh really now

maybe not now but for almost half of the year

>moscow outside TTK is the best part

i don't see how 30-floor blocks with no urban planning and maintenance around are the "best part" but whatever

Except for the salaries he is right actually. I’d also mention Moscow has decent infrastructure tho.

Eбaлo зaвaли.

>tries to emulate Moscow
Yeah, no.

>brap

No need to prove anything to anyone on the Internet about Russia. Especially the Poles

>Eбaлo зaвaли.

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Tyпaя либepaхa oпять выcиpaeтcя.

>Yes, i grew up in Warsaw. How did you know?

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Wow, Warsaw is so green, qt

It would look much better if those “skyscrapers” were removed.

Salaries might be high for Russia but when the rouble's value fell following the sanctions, salaries in Russia are not high even comparing to other eastern European capitals.

It would look much better if g*rmans didn't destroy whole city.

its just devalvation that makes them looking tiny. Real inflation in russia isnt as hard

Pre-war Warsaw is overrated and romanticized for no reason though, it looked mostly like Łódź.

tfw meeting a polak that's not constantly burrhurting over russians in every post for the first fucking time in my life
Wow, just wow.
Btw nice job you do there, Polaks, bringing all white immigrants from Ukraine, Belarus and Russia but forbidding to come for sandniggers and gypsies. Bravo Polaki

They are higher than most of estern European capitals.

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>Absolute state of West Balkans

>Real inflation in russia isnt as hard

when it comes to basic goods like locally produced food it's not big indeed, but prices of imported goods have risen accordingly, like computer parts, imported cars, imported, sophisticated food etc (moreover, here you need to pay a 'smuggler fee' since some of the products are sanctioned so they need to be imported to Russia half-legally or simply illegally and it obviously costs more)

well, maybe you're right if we take all eastern european countries into account (I had mostly eastern EU countries in mind) but still, in 2013 Moscow's wages were the highest out of all capitals in eastern Europe and now they're only slightly higher than average.

Yeah but it decreases wildly meanwhile there's a constant growth of salaries in Poland
Im a bit butthurting when people bring such maps to the table because we obviously should've been make out country much richer and failed.
1k$ salary in THE CAPITAL CITY (it's 400$ in some Ivanovo for example) is a pretty pathetic result desu.

btw i'm a little butthurt when I see how high salaries in Chinese cities are, it's unbelievable how fast they're developing

Cape Town is also interesting but I guess they only took whiteys' wages into account, disregarding salaries of the black majority

maybe the city proper but the townships are all black and I'm pretty sure CT metro with all townships and 'colored' neighborhoods is majority non-white

>>No one visits it, everyone visits Prague and Budapest instead

It's actually worse, I'd rather visit Krakow, Stettin and whatever other Polish cities there are than Warszawa.

why do Russians prefer to use USD over EUR, even though they trade with EU countries much more and they hate America ideologically?

What's the best polish city or town to visit? No memes.

>Yeah but it decreases wildly
Only in your mind.

Yes, Chinese cities show decent growth, which makes me butthurt as well.
Really makes you believe Asia will become world’s most prosperous region in XXI century.

why? if you want to visit Kraków you could visit Zagreb instead, they're basically the same, all these historical cities in central Europe are like 'you saw one of them - you saw them all' and that 'map of every European city' applies to them

meanwhile Warsaw is simply different, quite exotic for a central European city and that's what makes it interesting imo

no youre right i deleted the post, I looked it up

Wołyń :-DDD

That's what we got used to after the 90s I guess.
>they hate America ideologically?
Do you really think 'ai-dee-yolo-gee" has anything to do with people's opinion on dollars lol.
People the same everywhere, they see dollars - they want them

>Only in your mind.
Are you an idiot? Prices been increasing as fuck since the very beginning of the year.

No memes!

Wrocław is a very nice mid-sized city, fun to spend a day or two in. Kraków is bigger and has more stuff to do.

Alright, thanks

Oh fuck i thought u were ukrainian
I'm blind

Imo Poznań, extremely underrated and unknown outside of Poland even though it's definitely the most European city here, the best maintained, without third world run down neighborhoods like in any other city here, also it has beautiful architecture and wasn't as much destroyed as Wrocław, Warsaw or Gdańsk (even though it got its share of destruction as well).

Toruń is also a gem, as it survived WW2 intact and it has a stunning, cute medieval old town (but nothing more).

>Do you really think 'ai-dee-yolo-gee" has anything to do with people's opinion on dollars lol.

i'd think it would have something to do with the government approach to dollars, like the government would try to make buying dollars harder 'not to support ebul Gosdep' and switch to the euro instead. Also, most of Russians do their shopping in EU countries, not in the USA so euros feel like a natural choice, dollar/euro rate has been quite unstable recently.

I have a friend from Poznan, maybe I could tag along with him some day. Torun sounds interesting as well.

Do they have an IKEA? If not they're 3rd world

Poznań does of course. Toruń does not because it's actually a town but there's IKEA in Bydgoszcz, it's like 30 km from there.

>to make buying dollars harder 'not to support ebul Gosdep'
No, it would literally be a suicidal thing to do.
>Also, most of Russians do their shopping in EU countries
Strangely I thought we mostly do our shopping with China :^)

Would you recommend watching a film about Wołyń ? I heard it's good

> not-updated shitgraphs
Its actually 464 euro here
Real inflation accounts the imported backet too. Also depritiation stimulates foreign investment, as russia is big market enough some companies might start producting that stuff there for russian market only, but they also stimulate exports too. I even remember Putin opening Mercedes factory which is actually 2x smaller than a fucking chinise pneumatic factory Vucic marked building the same week

>tfw Beograd has a IKEA and we don't

youtube.com/watch?v=tZEFIJvoeCc

Good visually but makes us look like pussy ass victims who didn't stand a chance against bandera's guys

The net salary in inner ring sofia is over 900 euros now and the gross is 1200.

this is republic avg
Too bad they got cucked by domestic industry. Imports of furniture have grew when it opened in 2017 and been falling since then

The movie is good but brutal

>prices growth due to extra taxation proves salary decline

fincan.ru/articles/49_srednyaja-zarplata-v-rossii-po-godam/
That’s average Russian (not Moscow) salary. The only “wild decline” happened in 2014-2015 when our meme currency was at the bottom.
So where is your “wild decline”, retard?

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Pshek's theory is that if your city doesn't have an IKEA it's 3rd world

I'm wrong, the average in Sofia is 820 euros net. Still 100 lower than Moscow

nsi.bg/bg/content/3930/статистически-райони-област

>Look under Югoзaпaдeн paйoн Coфия(cтoлицa)

>Strangely I thought we mostly do our shopping with China :^)

maybe if you live in Blagoveshchensk. I don't mean wholesale trade but going shopping like normal middle class families do every weekend (people from Spb go to Finland, people from Kaliningrad go to Poland or Lithuania etc.)

>Also depritiation stimulates foreign investment, as russia is big market enough some companies might start producting that stuff there for russian market only

yes, but it also raises prices and lowers quality of production. As a Yugoslav you should know it well, was Zastava's quality ever as good as original Fiat it was based on?

>I even remember Putin opening Mercedes factory which is actually 2x smaller than a fucking chinise pneumatic factory Vucic marked building the same week

so is that any reason to be proud if the factory is so small?

Aerodrom will never be first world, deal with it.

you oversimplify my statements like usual but I still like you

Too bad it already is

i know, love you guys. I also do that stuff. I remember beeing butthurt about not having air conditioner back in january cuz i viewed it as an indicator of development and that i ruin our image
I also remember calculating what part of each paid tax euro goes to public infrastructure. And spending more in the end of month than its start cuz statistics would show my spending a month earlier

> I remember beeing butthurt about not having air conditioner back in january cuz i viewed it as an indicator of development and that i ruin our image

Actually having air conditioning on the walls/facade of your commieblock makes it look way more third world than not having a/c at all.

I'm sorry it's not. It lacks not only IKEA but also red bike paths, underground cables, elevated bus stops, trams etc. etc.

> As a Yugoslav you should know it well, was Zastava's quality ever as good as original Fiat it was based on?
Yes but i firmly know that Fiat Automobili Srbija doesnt lag behind group
> so is that any reason to be proud if the factory is so small?
Nope it rather tells you that fucking mercedes factory is small compared to it. We are talking about biggerst greenfield investment in serbia where ratio between investment capital and employed people will be on the lvl of recent new autofactories in USA

Where do you see overhead cables 3rd worlder?

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Cute but an air conditioner can be bought on a server salary in belgrade (300 euros)

>Nope it rather tells you that fucking mercedes factory is small compared to it

well, it's rather hard to compare such different investments directly as they have different targets

of course it doesn't change the fact that I do admit Serbia can profit from milking two cows at once, as a unique member of the free trade zone with the EU and Russia

nevertheless, I think you'd benefit more from the full membership in the EU even if it entailed termination of the free trade deal with Russia.

that's basically several streets like that

I hope you will ever come to Poland too see how new neighborhoods are designed here. You can also read Varlamov, he's been to Poland recently.

There are only ultra shitty old areas (usually with houses) that aren't urban with overhead cables

I don't see them anywhere

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too bad im also opsessed about ruining the average country's driving park outlook by having a fucking Euro 3 shitbag. I also realised im a highschooler and that i want to get laid

don't worry, based Zoran Radojcic ruins it more as he doesn't buy new trams

>Blocks your path

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>prices growth due to extra taxation proves salary decline
Higher prices - same shitty salary - less purchasing power. Is it too complicate to you?
>That’s average Russian (not Moscow) salary.
Do you understand what the term 'average' means? Are you serious?
Anyway, I hope your job at Olgino at least pays off, chmo.

> well, it's rather hard to compare such different investments directly as they have different targets
Its not in order to get capital and techological intensity of investment just devide total value of investment/employed workers for that

> nevertheless, I think you'd benefit more from the full membership in the EU even if it entailed termination of the free trade deal with Russia

Makes me question EU membership first time in awhile. We do infact have something investors care about- free trade with EU, i dont see reasoning behind losing the same with Russia and Turkey only for some meme benefits like title and not waiting on border. But i still believe EU fonds would outplace the loss

Because Prague and Budapest have a bigger historic center than Warsaw, sounds reasonable as Warsaw was torn apart in the war and came under commie rule after it.

Because it's the best city in the world.

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Go back to 2ch, pathetic /po/rusher. That’s the last stronghold of your manyamiroque.

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>Its not in order to get capital and techological intensity of investment just devide total value of investment/employed workers for that

But at the end it doesn't mean a more technologically intense factory will be more beneficial to the country as it provides less jobs to the locals and if it was granted tax reliefs (I guess it was because it's a usual practice) then the country receives very small profit from presence of such a factory.

> i dont see reasoning behind losing the same with Russia and Turkey only for some meme benefits like title and not waiting on bord

EU cohesion funds, infrastructure funds, supervision of the EU institutions and courts that keep your government under control so it wouldn't impose excessive measures on its own citizens

unfortunately, in most of EE countries the citizens need to be more afraid of their own governments than EU institutions.

>and Turkey

Turkey has a FTA with the EU so you won't lose anything. The only country you can lose is Russia.

>Warsaw
>the only cyberpunk city in Europe, outside London's dildo

Fuck off Orthodox retard.

>harmony
Who gives a shit you Putin-dick-sucking bastard.

>btw i'm a little butthurt when I see how high salaries in Chinese cities are, it's unbelievable how fast they're developing
Because they're stealing technology from Britain, Germany, USA, etc. and not recognizing IP laws.

We are pushing against that, which is why China's economy is stagnating right now. We are curbstomping them.

t.stinky san-franciscan subway junkie

>es a shit you Putin-dick-sucking
why are you against Putin?

>which is why China's economy is stagnating right now.

>China's economy grew 6.6% in 2018

ok, praise the trump

Workers are mostly highly paid in techonologically intense industries which outplaces lack of large number of workers. Not to mention high-end added value factories need alot of suppliers and chances are them might result different industries emerge. This factory is an example of it as it is planned it would bring additional 2 plants for raw material refinement. Its worth to stay that its also brings know-how and that they are sustainable at long run as techonogically intense industries take larger part in global trade and overall usage of it products and are less prone to automatisation and allocation due to lower costs of labour in other countries

Tell me about EU fonds What share of gdp do they cover in CIE countries. What investment do they support. Im serb tier uneducated about functioning of EU stuff

>trying

>that's what makes it interesting imo

Not for me. I rather enjoy "all these historical cities in central Europe" instead of soulless
international style glass and steel skyscraper scenery. If I wanted that I'd go to USA, Asia etc

Euopean cities should maintain their European character.

San Fran can sink into the sea for all I care.

Because he is destabilizing a very stable international system for selfish economic gain. I personally wish Russia to have economic prosperity because I think Russia has a lot of talented people, especially in mathematics, scientific, and engineering areas. However, oligarchs have captured that economic gain and corrupted it. The average Russian citizen does not gain from the Putin-oligarch treason.

>relying on chink stats
You should be looking at electricity consumption data, which clearly depicts a decline in Chinese economic activity. Plus, they are busy building empty houses to inflate their GDP in terms of real estate. It's not real growth. They are buying out real estate in the USA, Canada, Germany, and UK too. They know their money is fucked.

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