Why do Swedes worship Finns?

danish boys...

How sad that you'd have to lie about your germanic heritage

>Rurik was Finnish
He wasn't

have sex

Imagine going to all of this effort just to try hold the insecurities as bay.
Yikes!

>blond genes
It's all so tiresome, Pekka.

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>Finnish kings
I've tread the saga of the orcadians, a 14th century fabrication to give the earls of Orkney a certain divine right to rule, and I never recall any "finnish" kings, only that the origins of Scandinavian royal families were supposedly from these godly beings of nature, like "fire", "frost" and "storm". Looking it up again, I suppose it says that these beings also ruled over Finland including Gothland/ Gotlnd/ Jutland, but nowehere does it says they were Finns
There is a much more credible source to the origins of Scandinavian families called Ynglingatal, which supposedly was first composed in the 9th century, and it makes no mention of these supposed Finnish kangz

Every country has their retarded we wuzzers

Rurik was just a ruler. He didn't bring any genes and shit. And the Russians ruled the Russian land and not someone else.

Sure. Do you have a fairy tale about the ancient state of Finland? Finno-Ugric tribes were everywhere in these territories and they did not appear from Finland.

>ancient state of Finland
Makes me wonder why Finns never managed to make their own country without the guiding hand of the Swedes, but they supposedly managed to create all of the countries in Scandinavia and Eastern Europe

OBSSSSEEEEEESSSSEEEEEEEEDDD

have sex

Swedes didn't do shit .
We were civilized by Russians.

So you were only civilised in the 19th Century? That's pretty bad.

Yes.
When was Australia civilized?

The 19th Century by the British. Don't tell me you're comparing yourself to Abos, though?

Doesn't make sense, Slavs are not civilized themselves as of 2019.

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Unbelievably redpilled post

And who civilized the Brits? The Romans.
What about if the Romans had not made it to Britain? Would they civilize themselves? No.
Almost everyone was civilized by someone.
The fact that Finland was not civilized by Sweden is not the fault of the Finns, it is the fault of the Swedes who saw this land as worthless.
When the Russians started putting a lot of focus here we were civilized. Sure, we already had some civilized people who often spoke Swedish.
If Russia had not civilized us, we wouldn't have gotten our independence, at least not that quickly.

Now, we have had civilization for about two centuries and independence for one century.
And we are the happiest country in the world two years in a row.

Other countries have had millennia to build their countries and make them great because they were civilized by someone. And they are worse than us.
What does that say, Australia?
It says that Finns are the absolute master race no competition everyone else is a subhuman compared to us.

i agree

I just find it sad that Swedish colonisation makes you seethe so hard that you're prepared to say that you were uncivilised barbarians until the Russians came along, lmao. Just admit that you were civilised by Swedes.

If we had been civilized by them, we would have had Finnish literature, Finnish identity etc.
No, we only had a few people.
First Finnish book was in 1500's, by some guy who studied in Germany.
Yes, Germany did more for our civilization than Sweden.
Sweden never focused on civilizing us, they just brought a small group of civilized people here who gave us Christianity.
Perhaps there was a city or two that could be called civilized during the Swedish era, but almost all the country was uncivilized.

Russia saw Finland as a great location for development, which helped us a lot.
And I hate Russians more than Swedes, just to be clear.

It sounds like Russians came from far away. And not just the local tribes that gave birth to "civilization" where it was most convenient.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rus'_people

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I fucking hope not

i kiss swedish feet

>we would have had Finnish literature
There is, but in swedish.

These Russians aren't any blonder though

>Russians
>blonder
Lold. The most common hair color is "Rusyi" ("Pycый") here.

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chad coach

Not any darker either.

Everyone is blonder at that age than after puberty
not sure what you're trying to say though Russians have much darker hair on average

>Russians have much darker hair on average
haHA

Finns unironically think that they are "white master race" LoL.
Even with a population equal to St. Petersburg alone you are no lighter than any other Europeans.

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have sex sw*doid

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Those light hair maps suggest that 80% of Finns have light hair (light brown to blond) and it seems pretty accurate to me. I don't think they include immigrants though, which can be seen in this picture too

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These guys have brown hair.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Finns are majority blonde that's a meme no country is. Light brown hair is most common. Finns have lighter hair in the sense of dark brown and especially black hair being much more rare here than in Russia.

You know it's Moscow right?

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Gringos.

This map is drawn by some retard how he felt it should be. Russians' hair color is equal to Latvians, not to Slavs, even the most southern ones are lighter than Belarusians according to Soviet research in 1950s.

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>Soviet research in 1950s
I finally understand where you get all your false data

Cope.
And
There's no difference in color on average, your cross-flaged blond larping is cringe.

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You are taking your cherrypicking very seriously. Have you ever thought that maybe you blond hair is just a another gift from Finns

the funniest part is there's been no swede post till now

Oh shit now of course you are much whiter than the Russians. Pure Aryans "master race".

youtube.com/watch?v=9kT9GXNH-6g

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oh there are

>another gift from Finns
BHAHAHAHAHAHA

>same color on average
>gift from Finns
>your proofs prove nothing, look at meme map
forum.molgen.org/index.php?topic=4263.0

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Yes my brother, you are well known mutts of the Eurasia with mainly Slav, Finn and turkish blood.

Magyar conquerors from Urals had blonde hair
The area known as "Russia" used to be much whiter back in the day

Ethnic Russians and their descedants are one of the most European people, my Asian friend.

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>you are well known mutts
Everyone are mutts

Im honestly hoping that even you dont belive that shit. Less than 5% percentage far siberian admixture is much lesser bad than a huge chop of a near-eastern. You got any real non cherrypicked statics or proofs, that wont end on a russian circle jerk forum?

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Rurik was slav.

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He posted it again!
He creates we wuz threads to be a laughing stock on the board but ruskies don't believe his blond larping :(
Cry me a river Finngrel

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Even the trees and animals if we go deep enaf, still other races have lived longer on a closer each another making them on a understandable non muttish compared to some big scale mutts.

how baltics have asian haplogroup?

You map actualy speak good for us, and no i didint start this thread or hadnt start any thread in years.
Last untouched peoples of North i may say.

The haplogroup migrated west over thousands of years as hunter gatherers and by the time it arrived in the Baltic it didn't have with it Asian admixture, just like 100% R1b niggers in Chad don't have European admixture.
Finns and Arkhangel Russians have a little bit of Siberian admixture from a different migration across the Arctic.

Haplogroups don't matter. Look at Africa for one lmao

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Obsession with hair shade on this incel board is retarded. In 2000s black hair dye was popular here

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In the light of archeology, it is clear that Finland had at least a reasonably significant power structures comparable to the small kingdoms and were connected to the Frankish Empire, the Swedish Vendel culture and perhaps the small Kingdoms of Anglo-Saxon.

Also they have found some few pieces of runestones and it is common knowledge that Finns had certain type of "rune rods" that worked as calendars, they have found plenty of those and some occasional writings in the Baltic Finnic languages in Russia.

And christianity has been here way before the Swedish crusades started and there were freelancer missionaries, this has been known for a long time thanks to oral tradition and they quite recently found a church in Kaarina that is way older than any crusades.

So our civilization went backwards thanks to Swedes. The reason why nothing too big never happened here was because we didn't have the population, but who knows what would have happened if we had been given more time even 100 years.

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>In the light of archeology, it is clear that Finland had at least a reasonably significant power structures comparable to the small kingdoms and were connected to the Frankish Empire, the Swedish Vendel culture and perhaps the small Kingdoms of Anglo-Saxon
Is there any proof that these small kingdoms weren't ruled by Scandinavians?
>Also they have found some few pieces of runestones
Made by Scandinavians
>The ring-sword is a particular variant of the Germanic migration period swords
So the ones found in Finland belonged to Scandinavian kings

>Is there any proof that these small kingdoms weren't ruled by Scandinavians?

There isn't really any proof that they were, of course some kind of connection to Germanic people is undeniable

>Made by Scandinavians

No proofs.

>So the ones found in Finland belonged to Scandinavian kings

No proofs. We only have sagas and oral tradition which are not valid sources but certain names are clearly not Germanic.

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Anything pointing it would be?
Just a undiscovered history

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>No proofs.
Runestones are inherently Germanic, unless you're implying that North Germanic was used by Finns for certain purposes.
>No proofs.
Ring swords are inherently Germanic too, at best (for you) they found their way to Finland through trade, at worst they belonged to Germanic kings/nobles (probably Kvens)

>two autistic retards going at it over irrelevant bs
Why does this keep happening?

Wow no need to be rude :c

How do we make finland more germanic?

Aside from changing your language, there is nothing more you can do.

It is over

More refugees

There wasnt germanic movement in finland that time.

Kvens also were finnic, at that time germanic Finnic-Germanic borded located very long time on a north of a lake Vänern, or so called area where Temperate broadleaf and mixed forest turned into a Taiga.

>Runestones are inherently Germanic, unless you're implying that North Germanic was used by Finns for certain purposes.

There are more runes in the world just than futhark. I dont understand your logic that runes are only a germanic thing.

>Ring swords are inherently Germanic too, at best (for you) they found their way to Finland through trade, at worst they belonged to Germanic kings/nobles (probably Kvens)

We have also found shit tons of items from Baltics and so far away as Perm. People used to trade and this is nothing different from your beloved Scandinavians. Does it mean that if a Swede had Frankish luxury item that they automatically belonged to Franls or were ruled by Frankish elite? No.

And it is proven that they produced swords locally in Finland as well as imitations of a certain types, and this was the case also in Scandinavia. Models may have come elsewhere.

>kvens were finnic
absolute state of uralic gooks

Chances are they weren't modern day Scandinavians either in a strict genetic sense. Probably some mutts of Finns, Scandis and aboriginal populations.

Kvens were Germanic, and Finnics and Germanics didn't share a border at the time. Germanics and the Sami did though, but the border was in the mountains further north than Vanern

Kven = Kainuu you oil pumpping transsexual

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>"let me tell you about you country"
Borders at time wasnt marked on map but on nature and highlight of the nature, also your wrong on second statement.

It's funny how Scandinavians are allowed to wewwuzz as much as they want and Finns are not when your only sources about your own people back then are pretty much made by English monks few hundred years after the shit happened.

>There are more runes in the world just than futhark. I dont understand your logic that runes are only a germanic thing.
Can you post some examples of runestones in Finland written in an Uralic language?

>People used to trade and this is nothing different from your beloved Scandinavians.
I thought you were originally implying that ring swords were produced by Finns to prove that Finns were on the same level as Scandinavians technologically, but I suppose you were actually using them as evidence of your power structures since the swords apparently only belonged to kings and nobles

>Does it mean that if a Swede had Frankish luxury item that they automatically belonged to Franls or were ruled by Frankish elite? No.
No, but to be fair there is no evidence of Franks reaching as far as Scandinavia whereas it's confirmed that there was considerable Scandinavian influence in Finland during this period, possibly including Scandinavian kangz.

>Borders at time wasnt marked on map but on nature and highlight of the nature
Yes, in this case the border was the Baltic Sea. But Finnics and Germanics didn't live side by side at this point, while Germanics and Sami did

>no Runestones from Finland
>b-b-but ther wuz kangz and shit

He claimed that there were runestones in Finland, not me

Again, do you have any proofs for your claims?

guess what ume samis call norwegians and swedes
kven is of a germanic origin, hvein, not from some random gook province in gookland

He lies almost as much as you then

Well I'm not talking about language but other things. I think it's likely Kvens spoke Germanic or were bilingual. Genes is another thing, "racial purity" is always some incel power fantasy. We know there's been people moving between Finland and Sweden continuously for 5000 years.

>The Norwegian historian Yngvar Nielsen, commissioned by the Norwegian government in 1889 to determine this question to settle contemporary questions of Sami land rights, concluded that the Sami had lived no farther south than Lierne in Nord-Trondelag county until around 1500, when they started moving south, reaching the area around Lake Femund in the 18th century.

Name itself tells nothing, many nations have given name by other peoples wich they are known even today such Finland and Russia. Kvens are different case since they doesnt exist as we know them anymore.

What matter is the peoples.

No, neither of us are lying