Are Christians persecuted in your country?

Are Christians persecuted in your country?

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>egypt
>persecuting christians
Kek Egypt used to be one of the most progressive and western Arabic states, fucking christoids should stop making up shit about them being persecuted.

They deserve to be persecuted

Yes we molest Christian children and their parents if they come here while fleeing the drug wars we finance.

Why are Europeans like this

i can tell you for iraq and syria all of those got free tickets to the west by NGOs so they left.

Christians in the UAE? Lebanese/Assyrians living there?

t.Muhammad Al Muslim Brotherhood

Filipinos, Ethiopians, Westerners...

I can guarantee you he is browner than we are

arab christians do have a persecution complex tho, its very autistic

>me xtians aren't persecuted
why are all arabs such filthy liars? Why can't they ever owe up to all the horrible things they are doing? They constantly terrorize, kill, rape people, they had slaves longer than anyone else, kidnapped and traded blacks and whites.
Yet they haven't won a war since the middle ages. They haven't invented or discovered anything since the middle ages? Maybe they are sly, manipulative, weak people, who relied on the ancient population to gain their achievements and victories and since they exterminated them they never amounted to anything?
How come people only now start to realize how disgusting, sly and worthless they are? How come when the oil was discovered on their lands, the more noble and worthy people didn't just move in and exterminated them to the last man to claim all their resources? Aztecs were cruel, but they had culture, how come they were defeated and driven to almost complete extinction yet arabs got a free pass?

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but all you said could be applied to euros.

>literally be persecuted
>lol why do you have a persecution complex bruh
Okay Iraqi

but they weren't though, especially not in recent history. people make it out to be like its some mass organized effort. and arab christians are just as subhuman as their muslim/non christian brethren.

>especially not in recent history. people make it out to be like its some mass organized effort.
Okay, so I guess that part when ISIS when around targeting Christian villages just didn't happen.
>and arab christians are just as subhuman as their muslim/non christian brethren.
Lol. Come back when Arab Christians are going around killing random people all over the world.

>Okay, so I guess that part when ISIS when around targeting Christian villages just didn't happen.
ISIS also killed Tengrist Yazidis and muslims tho (shi'ites and sunnis alike). They played a part in the civil war that killed up to a million people.

>Come back when Arab Christians are going around killing random people all over the world.
>killing random people all over the world
very autistic poltard argument. You can try to larp Islam as one entity but in reality its full of splinter groups, ethnicities and other subhumans. It's not so easy as your western propaganda likes you to think Juan.

should also mention that 99% of christians had vacated by the time of 2003 so if anything the ISIS label is least applicable to them.

BS

I'm Chaldean. My family wasnt persecuted in Iraq or anything like that at time but the middle east is a shithole and we integrate to the west better so most of us just wanna get the hell out of there. Also Saddam Hussein was very good to us and used to send money to Chaldean expats and fund our churches

but its true, they started leaving Iraq specifically in the 70s. During the sanctions time in the 90s like more than half of them left as they got free asylum in western countries.

It's the same for most of the other countries (Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and Palestine) as well. Although Lebanon still has a good 30-40% of their current pop. still Maronite and Roum. But that used to be way higher.

>ISIS also killed Tengrist Yazidis
We're talking about Christians here, aren't we? But you're right on the fact that Muslims certainly seem to dislike all non-Muslim minorities, be they Christians, Jews, Yazidis...
>very autistic poltard argument.
You literally said Christian Arabs are just as subhuman as the Muslim ones and that's just pure absolute bullshit.
>You can try to larp Islam as one entity but in reality its full of splinter groups, ethnicities and other subhumans.
If they're all retards as you yourself imply here it's kind of a moot point to mention it, isn't it?
>It's not so easy as your western propaganda likes you to think Juan.
Why do Muslim MENAs often like to think any negative image other may have of them is the result of propaganda or some grand conspiracy by the West?

They're often the butt of the joke, but they're not persecuted

pretty much this.

whats the state of your people right now in diaspora?

They act like they are, hilariously.

State? I was born here and my family and our friends all live here in Michigan. I've visited Iraq twice when I was a kid

>Christians here, aren't we?
no yazidis are pagan.

>But you're right on the fact that Muslims certainly seem to dislike all non-Muslim minorities, be they Christians, Jews, Yazidis..
>that muslims
yes dear because jihadis are the same as the rest of the population xD.

>said Christian Arabs are just as subhuman as the Muslim ones and that's just pure absolute bullshit.
in terms of personality and traits wise yes. they are the same race after all. a rich christian is just the same as a rich muslim.

>f they're all retards as you yourself imply here it's kind of a moot point to mention it, isn't it?
epic bro. good one

>Why do Muslim MENAs often like to think any negative image other may have of them is the result of propaganda or some grand conspiracy by the West?
Because its mostly true. The west needed this propaganda to dehumanize and wage war in that region.

you operate on this stupid notion that there is some sort of a difference between the two or how everyone in the region is out to get your beloved christcucks. the reality is that nobody gave a shit about these things (religion and ethnic divides) during the majority of the 20th century, people embraced nationalism. even when they did become sectarian nobody gave a shit about christians because they formed barely any of the population by then so it was mostly sunni shia. finally, even back in 2005 Al-qaeda released in their missive warning not to attack christian churches as it would be used against them as counter propaganda.

>used to be
t. mahmoud abdou allahdeen

like whats up these days? has the younger generation been fully deracinated? i've never heard much of the kildan and their lives in the US.

Okay

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t. brown looking mexican andy looking subhumanoid.

i try to educate you and you go back to what your mental capacity can understand. fair point, sometimes these are the ways things are meant to be.

I live in Dearborn, Michigan which is the arab capital of the US. The arabs that are dispersed elsewhere usually acclimate to whatever their city is like.

do you speak arabic? keep up with the community etc?

>fund our churches
you mean mosques or actual christian churches? saddam funding christian churches sounds a bit crazy

I can speak and I can read slowly. Yes we keep up with everything my mom sits around watching every egyptian soap operas and news from al bilad

ever heard of google you fucking retard
a chaldean is a christian

Chaldean Churches. Its not that crazy, Notre Dame burned and the gulf state princes all sent money to rebuild it

"Chaldeans" were never referred to as a sub-group of Arabs in any book, article or paper of the Western world until the rise of Baathism, Pan-Turkish homogeneity, the Islamic Revolution of Iran, and the erasure of Kurdistan. In short: not until recently and only out of ignorance and bias. I'm sorry you've probably been brainwashed, but those are the facts.

Thank you Nikolas Nassim Taleb Kweli from freeing me of the burden and humiliation of having to call myself an ar*b

thats nice cool stuff.

t. retard

You sound oblivious. You speak of how Christians and Muslims in the Arab countries are the exact same then casually want to talk about a segment of the Christians there who just happen to speak an entirely separate language from the Muslims of Kurdistan/Iran mere miles away like it doesn't have any bearing on the idea that Christians and Muslims there are the same, when that is rarely seen anywhere.

>t. retard

Damn, if I knew you aren't serious and are just another shifty poster I wouldn't have wasted my time typing out .

t. Ahmet "I love the AKP" Mehmetoglu

but those that speak their own language are only one subset. there are so many different types of christian.

and genetically speaking those northern aramaic speaking christians are related to the muslims of the north. you may know them as assyrians in their own villages/towns. the language is kept alive by the church.

chaldeans and other nestorics speak solely arabic but maybe syriac/neo aramaic if they decide to study it enough

Detroit made Saddam an honorary citizen for building Chaldean Christian churches there m

>chaldeans and other nestorics speak solely arabic but maybe syriac/neo aramaic if they decide to study it enough

That's why I can show you an encyclopedia from the WWI period stating that "nestorics" speak solely Syriac/Neo-Aramaic but maybe Arabic if they decide to study it enough, right? God, you're right, I am a retard.

>That's why I can show you an encyclopedia from the WWI period stating that "nestorics" speak solely Syriac/Neo-Aramaic

The arab christians are a remnant of those from the pre islamic conquests yes, nobody denies this. They were either rich enough to pay jizya or sponsored by wealthy christians to pay their jizya etc. but as a race they aren't any different

so in their communities, the majority adapted to speaking arabic. thats it really, all im saying

You just said "there are so many different types", yet you can't acknowledge that some just simply aren't Arabs. I have nothing left to say until you refute . You can't, by the way. Looking up "Chaldeans being called Arabs" shows it started in a French book in the 1970s when the official propaganda became that Iraq = Arab, after centuries and centuries. The whole thing is a moot point anyway since Chaldeans aren't a subgroup of Iraqis either, no more than Kurds are. The majority of the Chaldean Catholic Church was in what's now southern Turkey and western Iran for half of its existence. Should we be surprised that a dictatorship wants everything located in it to see itself as belonging to it? That's why I'm politely letting you go on arguing when you're obviously wrong. Because I can't blame you for being misled when the people themselves, like , are brainwashed and persecuted.

yes thank Allah
we are Orthodox Muslims

>are brainwashed and persecuted
Fuck off dude i'm very well aware of my chaldean heritage and my grandparents can speak the chaldean aramaic dialect. Its not persecution as much as modernized adaptation and i'm not gonna go out of my way to not call myself an arab and correct people around me so I can be more accepted in the west. I hate hate people who do that shit and so does everyone else in my family and church.

>Its not persecution as much as modernized adaptation and i'm not gonna go out of my way to not call myself an arab and correct people around me so I can be more accepted in the west. I hate hate people who do that shit and so does everyone else in my family and church.

Brainwashed.

No, but they should

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You know nothing about the middle east outside of what you read on the (((interwebs))) so fuck off

The fact that you're lying shows my job here is done. You get the picture deep down, whether you admit it or not.

>let me tell you about your country and your people

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what do you mean by arab exactly? someone who speaks arabic? someone who descends from the arabian peninsula?

based and iraqipilled.
not a cuck

stupid and wh*tepilled.

so cringe beyond cringe.

this is pure wh*te arrogance at display.

I wouldn't go that far, but there are dozens of anti-christian attacks every week and everyone just looks the other way

>what do you mean by arab exactly? someone who speaks arabic? someone who descends from the arabian peninsula?

It actually does not matter how I define the term Arab. Because I'm not denying anything about that or saying that in practice anyone is not an Arab. The issue comes down to genus and species. The issue is about theory, not practice, even though there are many cases in practice to prove they're not all Arabs as the other troll is pretending. 'Chaldean' is not like 'Iraqi'. It is not like 'Hejazi'. It is not like 'Shami'. It is not like 'Maghrebi'. It's something completely separate. It is not a species of Arab, it is a species of Syrian Christian/Syriac people. And it's really quite simple from there, because the consensus from generation is that there's a left hand and a right hand, there's India and China, and there's an Arabic language and a Syriac or Aramaic language. One is not a dialect of the other. Add to that the fact that the area most 'Chaldean' Catholics are from was not. Even. Called. Iraq. Until the 20th century. And we reach the point where disagreeing with whatever I say henceforth will just make you look stupid. Cases like that guy are common, I know. Which is why they're disappearing.

Jesus.

No. Data don't lie.

An Arab is someone who descends from arabiesed people. Full stop.

t. Abul bin Mohammad al Cairo al Istanbul

You got blown the fuck out by this guy

fuck christcucks we wouldn't have this pest western 5th column problem if our ancestors weren't lazy pieces of shit and genocided them
they even had a a couple of crusades to show them it's necessary

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No he didn't. He's insane if he thinks we're some kind of special "species" that is distinct from the rest of Iraq. I'm proud to be an Arab christian and thats the end of it. Real persecution would be like how black people are treated in the america and the west. Not cause we stopped learning aramaic and realized arabic would be the most efficient language to use in the region

Biji Biji rojava

Just because I know for a fact that Egypt doesn't persecute christoids doesn't make me a turkish Muslim.

So you're a Kurd instead? Lol

Christians religion is inherently hostile to other religions

but you are a different species
homo chrstcuckus pestos
feel victimized now bitch

Based. I think there are different types of Arabs based on historic medieval cultures e.g. Iraqi, Yemeni, Omani, etc...
But on a wider sphere we are all arabs. Some arab cultures have christian or Druze heritages. Some have Ibadi or shia. And so on. Each are part of their own local arab culture. So it is what it is.

t. Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi

And I never disagreed with that. It just does not apply to the ethnicity under discussion. Someone who admits his family and friends are in the Arab capital of America - choosing to be there - saying that not one but two genocides recognized by U.S. Lawmakers to have happened in the last century - not even counting the entire period that Saddam Hussein was ALIVE, in between them - has absolutely nothing to do with the fact his grandparents speak a different language from his parents, who speak a different language from him, if he even admits that it's not "adapting" for a culture to disappear from the face of the earth, doesn't change the facts. Not one fact. All the facts.

Germany used to be a European nation where you could walk the streets without getting harassed by 3rd worlders

>t. West Sydney resident

yes, christians aren't save here.

what fact? nobody denies that they are ethnically and culturally different but they all merge into the same race in the end. same characteristics and in the end, during the peak of the nationalism under Saddam, one people.

You are trying to split a hair's end here, which nobody denies.

Further more, "genocide" is a cringe term. Languages and cultures die out to be merged/replaced with new ones. The very same christian one merged from something else before that etc.

And btw, read up on the Lahkmid's of Hira or the Ghassanid's of Jordan.

Lovely how I talk to you, he tries to back you up talking to the Canada flag instead of me, then I talk to him and now you're backing him up.

>what fact?

The facts that no one besides Chaldeans themselves consider them to be an Arab group, that no book or paper around the planet called them a group/type of Arabs until the 1970s, the fact that brainwashing leads people to shout how much they don't exist, the fact that I've begged and pleaded with you two to prove me wrong, dhow me something that proves me wrong, but jusr go in circles, and the fact that this level of ignorance being so widespread doesn't just happen by itself.

>the same race in the end.

Which is?

>Further more, "genocide" is a cringe term. Languages and cultures die out to be merged/replaced with new ones. The very same christian one merged from something else before that etc.

I'm not debating whether they're genocided or not. I'm just pointing out how brainwashed people must be to think they can wave their hands and just make the facts disappear.

>And btw, read up on the Lahkmid's of Hira or the Ghassanid's of Jordan.

I've heard of them. It has little to do with my argument because I never said "Arab Christians/Christian Arabs" don't exist.

Shame
The greatest Arab ever was a Christian

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>The facts that no one besides Chaldeans themselves consider them to be an Arab group
WHAT WHAT WHAT. SO A PEOPLE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES, ONLY WH*TEOID PROFESSORS MUST?

>hat no book or paper around the planet called them a group/type of Arabs until the 1970s
Ok but consider the context. Iraq was untouched by European powers till the dissolution of the Ottomans. So yes, it's sad to see that the Chaldeans didnt get catalogued into your little scrapbook of ethnicities.

>, but jusr go in circles, and the fact that this level of ignorance being so widespread doesn't just happen by itself.
WHAT IGNORANCE? What am I saying that is wrong? That they are related to the ones they lived with for centuries if not more? Well no shit.

>Which is?
The Chaldeans are an ethnic subgroup known as Kildan in Iraq. They are a conglomeration of old nestoric christians of the area as well as the
pre-islamic conquest nestorians that dominated the area. many of the old nestorians actually converted to islam (nestorianism itself influenced islam alot) but anyhow.

Therefore, this Chaldean ethnicity is just part of a mosaic of the Iraqi peoples of Baghdad and below up to Basrah (places that they inhabited) in Iraq. So yes, they are related to the shi'ites, sunnis and other christians in that area, separated only by this distinct religious identity.

>Therefore, this Chaldean ethnicity is just part of a mosaic of the Iraqi peoples of Baghdad and below up to Basrah (places that they inhabited) in Iraq. So yes, they are related to the shi'ites, sunnis and other christians in that area, separated only by this distinct religious identity.

Is Wikipedia blocked there or what? You're mixing up the ancient Chaldeans with the people calling themselves that now, who as I said earlier can be easily proven to speak Syriac every day, and who are not from the location you said at all (Baghdad-Basra).

>He thinks figures for christians taken from official documents are actually correct

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>who as I said earlier can be easily proven to speak Syriac every day, and who are not from the location you said at all (Baghdad-Basra).
Chaldean is a christian mystery mutt term, yes it also includes some nestorics that came from the southern semetic part of turkey and the north. but what I said still stands. Besides, they'be been around for long. (modern chaldean). No, not all modern chaldeans are turkish-iranian nestoric mutts.

yet if they come here we're supposed to build a mosque and rename the street paljal bahminder sukih road

Sadly no

the ones who cry loudest arent the ones being persecuted

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