How is abortion viewed in your country?

How is abortion viewed in your country?

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mostly negatively

Something like half yay / half nay

>i fucking LOVE science

>i fucking LOVE science

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touched a bit in the head pals?

>i fucking LOVE science

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>Anglo reading comprehension

>first South American country to legalize both weed and abortions

Us commies love actual freedom

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It's just a lucrative industry, wich is kept illegal by evangalicals in the senate for tax avoidance purposes.

There's like 100 persons in your country

I thought Germans were supposed to be intelligent.

Roasties will do anything to justify them killing their baby

Do you need some kind of blatant sarcasm disclaimer to recognize the irony in that tweet? Are you that retarded?

still have more white people than both Finland and Germany combined

Militant abortionists are amongst the most despicable people I have ever met.
Self-centered, materialistic, self-entitled, better-than-thou.

get off of my board you slut

Do you not know sarcasm when you see it?

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Catholcuck doctors make women suffer (at least that's what some women claim) or refuse to perform abortions.

Retard
And I’m saying this as someone pro-choice

fucking based

Abortion very early seems fine. Abortion after it's a big chunk with legs is insanity.

I don't understand what woman would do that, a wicked one for sure

The capital has a very big population density and no one cares about the rest of the country.

you have to wonder about the people that insist it isn't a human being

Uruguay seems like a cool place. What’s life like there? Is there are significant class divide like most of LatAm?

ok but doesn't ensoulment of the fetus take place after 40 days, not at birth

>I freaking LOVE science

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Cope

The abortion debate is retarded because both sides are completely disingenuous.

Abortion until neural system development is fine.

Why, it basically comes down to the same thing. If you are pro-choice, you are saying that some 3 months old fetus isn't a human yet... well neither is sperm

But one leads to the other.

What's the substantial difference between a fetus that looks more human to one that is lesser developed? Purely appearance? Is appearance what determines the humanity or the sheer fact both are fundamentally human life? See.

>BOTH SIDES BAD
>ME SMART

>Why, it basically comes down to the same thing

One is sperm that does nothing and the other is a zygote that will become a fully formed baby in 9 months if you don't kill it.

It’s nice, weather is great and it is safe to walk around the city for the most part (unless it’s like 1am and you are wandering around with your phone in your hand).

>Is there a significant class divide like most of LatAm?
The middle class is the majority and we have a good standard of living, I’ve never met any super rich family or anything of the sort, but if you’ve graduated college you’re pretty much guaranteed to make a good living.

Differentiation takes less than a week to begin.

Eh. People Barely talk about it. It's legal here but you need to get permission that your abortion is "justified", but they give permission to almost anyone.

Have sex

Seems like it is split pretty evenly. I will say I think more people are a lot more pro abortion than they let on but it's a subject that gets the anti side (and those sympathetic to it that might be more on the fence) extremely emotional. Unfortunately, it is one of those topics that ends up emotionally charged so people can't even discuss rationally, a lot of the time.

What’s the weather like? Does it get as humid as Brazil?

>used to fine with abortion
>then girlfriend got pregnant
>she had to have an abortion, I agreed it would be a good idea
>started to have nightmares in the weeks after
>her abortion was at 20 weeks
>started looking at pictures of 20 week old fetus, fucking disgusting to me and made me feel really sick
>tried to talk to gf about it
>she raffs in my face
>starts making fun of me for being so soft and loving fetus that isn't even alive
>whenever i was cooking dinner she would slap ingredients out of my hand and say 'woops i ruined your 'meal name'' for example if I was making a pizza she would knock the flour on the floor and say 'guess I am a pizza murderer, that flour was a pizza'
>got really annoyed at her
>became determined to get her pregnant again
>started trying my very hardest to impregnate her, putting holes in condoms etc
>wanted to make up for the baby i felt bad about aborting
>she left me because i tried to get her pregnant by convincing her i was into female chastity belts then buying one and smearing the inside with my cum before putting it on her vagina
>months of planning that move, even made her put me in a chastity cage for several successive weeks

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I have, overrated desu. Should've waited until marriage.

>she left me because i tried to get her pregnant by convincing her i was into female chastity belts then buying one and smearing the inside with my cum before putting it on her vagina
>months of planning that move, even made her put me in a chastity cage for several successive weeks
hahaha holy shit dude

I always enjoy your stories.

It’s humid but nowhere near Brazilian-level humid, in summer it gets as hot as 35C (98F) and in winter it goes as low as -7C (20F) in extreme cases.

Everyone say is bad because of "Christian values" and "think of the children". But everyone knows someone that did one. Resuming: everyone is against until needs one.

I think I would have believed it, but there are two parts that went too far.

>whenever i was cooking dinner she would slap ingredients out of my hand and say 'woops i ruined your 'meal name'' for example if I was making a pizza she would knock the flour on the floor and say 'guess I am a pizza murderer, that flour was a pizza'
and
>she left me because i tried to get her pregnant by convincing her i was into female chastity belts then buying one and smearing the inside with my cum before putting it on her vagina
>months of planning that move, even made her put me in a chastity cage for several successive weeks

if it wasn't for that i'd have believed you desu

Except for rural and suburban retards people view abortion as a good thing in this country.

That's right user!

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Strange, but boomers are more pro-choice because the Soviet Union promoted abortions.

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me moms try to abort me but it didnt work and everything with me is fine and dandy

>except for the people who actually have families and kids, people are just fine with killing kids

>i fucking LOVE science
Neck yourself for posting this shit.

legal and strongly encouraged in case of rape
illegal and currently subject of the complaints of a billion radical feminists in case of unwillingness

>liberation of women
>abortion
it's they choice to get pregnant. The fetus is effectively a prisoner until he's able to be birthed. Woman is responsible for whatever happens to it until then.

If those people were willing to take in a lot of unwanted, damage and likely handicapped kids then fine, but the truth is they don't.

>all these mouthbreathers who think that the guy in the screencap wasn't being ironic and trying to make a point when he said "i fucking LOVE science"

>Are you that retarded?
It’s an anglo

>abortion is mora-

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Uh, nah, because you're still enabling the shit lifestyle habits of people who are fucking around and having kids they don't want, which is ultimately the problem.

Thing with you pro choicers is you never seem to understand that problems have causes, they don't just manifest out of the ether and are totally impossible to turn back.

mostly okay

>it’s they choice to get pregnant
>implying birth control is 100% effective
>implying sex education is a thing in every community

Imagine being a neet incel and thinking you can argue about what women can and cannot do.

Pretty based take

>implying birth control is 100% effective
>implying sex education is a thing in every community
it's their choice to assume those risks mate. Are we supposed to let people murder each other because they don't know better?

i couldn't care less, your rights end where other begins, and personhood applies automatically after conception.

if you're the kind of person who is getting an abortion, it's probably more merciful that the child doesn't live than if people are forced to keep them

you're only justified in saying otherwise if you literally adopt like 12-15 children to take on the burden of your stupid politics and religious views

>Uh, nah, because you're still enabling the shit lifestyle habits of people who are fucking around and having kids they don't want, which is ultimately the problem.
It isn't enabling anything other than preventing a lot of fucked up, unwanted children from being produced. It is literally stopping them from having kids they don't want, which I agree is the problem. If anything the people getting abortions are actually the ones taking responsibility for their actions instead of just leaving their kids around for someone else to take care of (though nobody will).
>Thing with you pro choicers is you never seem to understand that problems have causes, they don't just manifest out of the ether and are totally impossible to turn back.
Pro choicers tend to also encourage the education for and proliferation of birth control which helps prevent abortion. And all that aside, abortions prevent a lot of the issues of unwanted children, again.

And of course this conveniently ignores all the people getting abortions for medical reasons (either for themselves or the fetus).

>you're only justified in saying otherwise if you literally adopt like 12-15 children to take on the burden of your stupid politics and religious views

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Republicans don't give a shit once the baby pops out

Typical brainlet response because you know he's right.

science doesn't tell you morals.

>I fight to meddle in other people's business and restrict what they can do, but only if it doesn't take any extra effort on my part!

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With this logic you can't hurt any living being for your personal grain.

>i couldn't care less, your rights end where other begins
In that case, you should be want the government forcibly taking your blood and organs because someone else might need them.

I unironically agree

that's UK tier

>it’s their choice to assume those risks
Sure so let’s make women give birth to children they either can’t have (because they can’t sustain them) or don’t want to have which is basically as bad or worse because it’s likely that they will be poorly socialized and grow up with emotional issues.
>your rights end where other begins
There are multiple standpoints regarding personhood, but let’s take what you are saying. Do you think a zygote’s rights matter more than women’s rights? If you say tHeY arE eQUal then that is very dumb and naive.

Legalization of abortion is the only right answer to the discussion if you care even a tiny bit about women.

>Pro choicers tend to also encourage the education for and proliferation of birth control which helps prevent abortion.
The same culture that endorsed birth control endorsed the normalization of promiscuity. It's astounding you can't see the connection between the two. You really think every person will responsibly take birth control or use condoms if they're taught? It's actually not how it plays out. What DID curb unwanted pregnancies was a culture that actively shamed sex out of wedlock.

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Scientists could grow lambs outside the womb. Maybe in the future just remove the fetus and put it in one of these.

Then why is it that the states that have abstinence only education have higher teen pregnancy rates, higher STD rates, and more abortions? You are blatantly incorrect.

t. watches Jordan Peterson

I don't see the connection

Wonderful, a future full of unwanted babies, a lot of them born with addictions and birth defects, that nobody wants.

based eestilane

This is factually wrong, in places where they teach sex ed the rates of teen pregnancy/std’s and the such are lower than where people are teached abstinence is the only safe method and/or are publicly shamed for being sexually active.

Which do you think is more likely: a couple of teens fucking without adults giving them any warning or advice getting pregnant, or the same couple being taught about contraceptives getting pregnant?

Probably because those are southern states and southern states have more negroes and negroes share a massive fucking chunk of all those statistics to begin. This isn't to say whites don't as well, but it's a massive problem among blacks, who tend to have other dysfunctional trends in their communities too which compound the issue and make it understandable why it occurs.

where i'm from if you have an abortion you're viewed as a degenerate there was a guy in my highschool who got a girl pregnant at 17 and the parents of the guy and the girl got together and forced the 2 of them o raise the kid to teach them a lesson.

>those are southern states and southern states have more negroes and negroes share a massive fucking chunk of all those statistics to begin
>it's a massive problem among blacks, who tend to have other dysfunctional trends in their communities too which compound the issue and make it understandable why it occurs

And you're against them being able to abort and not have children at higher rates than less impulsive white people?

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Yea, because my argument isn't completely utilitarian, I'm against abortion because justifying it also jeapordizes the value you place on human life and dignity and inevitably elevates certain other neoliberal principles to a higher degree than it, something I don't think pro choicers are aware of because you all are only infatuated with the pragmatic dimension of things.

if it can survive a premature birth

you actually have a right to not have that done to you. Unless you mean after your death, who gives a shit after that.

>Sure so let’s make women give birth to children they either can’t have (because they can’t sustain them)
Put them up for adoption.

>or don’t want to have which is basically as bad or worse because it’s likely that they will be poorly socialized and grow up with emotional issues.
Call social services. If such is the case the person should have never been allowed to have children in the first place. Fucked up people always exist. Having kids doesn't change their personalities.

>o you think a zygote’s rights matter more than women’s rights?
All persons are made equal. A person's rights don't matter more than another person's rights. But by exceptional circumstance, all persons under a period of their life must exist effectively a prisoner inside another person. Generally this is a non issue, we've been doing this quite literally before homo sapiens was a thing.

And it's not like women don't have ways to self induce abortion. There's a limit in how much of that specific matter the law can define that as murder without getting into a giant legal loophole. But one thing is clear getting others involved however is not different than making them accomplices to murder.

Furthermore, euthanasia is already legal in case of rape, for the same argument you said about the mother hating the child. There are cases where pregnancy is better off interrupted, but make no mistake, you are killing a person.

We should make apoptosis illegal.