Maybe off topic: uncucking yourself with homemade porn

one of women's most primal needs is to be desired
as long as you frame it in this context and make it feel like it"just happened" instead of was premeditated basically every girl will be interested
you also need to promise to delete it the next morning
literally zero women will actually ask you to delete it because that destroys their being wanted in your mind and they all tell you to look at it the next time youre feeling lonely

how was it done before the advent of television or the internet then?

Subscribing to thread, interested in where this leads to

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ok so first off im a really weird guy
i think all the time and overthink everything, kind of scared of people
i was looking to become more confident and especially more confident with women so i looked into visualization
this helped some but i realized that satisfying my sex drive by watching porn with other dicks internalized my view of myself as a beta male
like they could make a woman scream with pleasure but i couldnt
so i went full overthink and came up with a few plans and tried them out and heres what worked for me

i am not recommending this and probably it isnt for most mainstream people but it has been very helpful for me and it might help if theres someone out there like me

part of trying to fix my woman situation was realizing that women want a guy that lots of women want, regardless of if that guy wants to be with lots of women or one woman
so i started watching all of the dating videos and doing all the online dating and trying daygame
one thing i stopped doing at this point was being platonic friends with women which also helped me a lot to get out of the loser/second tier guy state
i wouldn't give my time or attention to a woman i wasnt working with or in a romantic situation with
that made my time more valuable and me appear more valuable
so that was a minor uncucking

when i was doing the dating (i have a gf now) i realized that lots of the girls were sluts and it was fun to date them because you could say anything and they wouldnt care but that i wouldnt want to be in a long term relationship with them
they also liked pushing the boundaries in sex and so i decided to try and make the most of every situaton i could and thought about the future

Muh red pill philosophy

one really hard thing about women in modern day society is that they have the default power position in a long term relationship; to combat this i dedided that i needed a way to keep my mental state from when i dated many women for my long term goal of dating one woman (for me personally ive always just wanted a sweet, shy virgin woman as my long term)

severe mental problems

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and basically if i wanted to look at porn it should be porn that helps me keep that mental state so i started trying things out
the first thing i tried out was telling the girl that i had a dream about us shooting dirty pictures and trying to do a few the next time we had sex with my phone
this almost didnt work at all, even with the sluttiest girls
so i went back to the drawing board
one of the concepts that was most helpful in getting success in online/app dating was emulating the presentation of succesful guys that were "acceptable" for all girls to sleep with
so i had a DSLR off ebay from taking my pics for my profile (which was the most effective thing in all of online dating) and I left that out on a camera stand in my place

when wed get back from going out id tell them that they lacked confidence and that they should see how hot they looked and id take a picture or two and show them while they were in their going out outfit etc.
then when things progressed, about half the time they'd suggest we keep taking pictures but would keep it very tame like bras or maybe topless
but not full porn type stuff like i wanted

one thing i noticed was that theyd say over and over again was that we "had to delete these tomorrow" and then they wouldn't care the next day
so i started including myself in the pictures and pre-empting it by saying "we are definitely destroying the evidence tomorrow" and they let me take it further, but again, not what i was going for
this whole time i deleted all pro porn and would only allow myself what i was producing
this was a HUGE help. it focused my mind on the task and gave me huge balls to a-b test what worked and what didnt
it also helped hugely with my daygame which was a big sticking point cos im mostly a coward at that
this moved me to a much higher quality group of women (real life pickup >> app/online) which was a big confidence booster overall

what was killing the progression was that the way the feedback loop was working was against me
like i wanted her and the pictures/videos were getting inthe way
rather than the act of making the pics/vids was the hot part, which would let me take it much further
around that time i had an unrelated experience that gave the answer: i had a girl tell me she had a "dirty dream" about me and then wouldn't tell me
after a night out and a few drinks she admitted the dream was of having sex in public and we ended up doing it off the side of the road
when we talked after she laughed at me for believeing her dream story and that she thought everyone just knew that dream was a codeword for i have a fantasy that i want to try out with you
so i started cooking up "dreams" that might end up in basically shooting a porn

You've gaslighted yourself reading reddit. Cool dude.

i understood women well enough at that point that i knew a dream about a pornstar would never work because those are low status women
so i started trying out dreams that were of high status women
the two that worked best were that she was an actress and we fucked on set with everyone filming and then got to watch it and that she was a model and we fucked at a vip afterparty with a professional photog shooting us
the key was to tell her about the dream a day or two in advance of a night where we would be back at my place to give the inital shock time to subside and let the thinking settle in

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then it basically took care of itself, id start out taking pictures and then switch to video while we fucked and kept saying "yes this is just like the dream" which kept the focus on the act
of course you had to promise to delete the next day, but they never asked. for the record i would have if they did
this had a few immediate consequences

first, more calmness and confidence in real life
second, i learned a lot about female psychology and was able to internalize it better- like how women care much more about perception than reality and how a mentality of abundance will attract them

the other part was that it made me better in bed
women arent kidding when they say the male body isnt sexy and there were a lot of cringeworthy things i was doing that i never would have fixed otherwise
most important was that i would say the right things but would whisper them during sex which came off as creepy- much better to say them full voiced

thats about it, if that helped anyone, good, if not at least i tried
good luck out there anons

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OP just letting you know that I havent read the full thread yet, doing that now, however

I have thought about filming myself fucking women, and its one of my goals for the future. Nice to see other like minded individuals

Do you have a blog or anything I could follow you on?

Honestly I really like your insight.

Also any tips on women or life in general that have made large differences for you?

thought similarly. my solution has been masturbating to porn with no dudes in it at all. works pretty well.

it is patrician-tier user

I've been doing this for years have some absoulte fire footage chicks love it