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so did you do it by just reading the sentence and translating all words and just ignored the cases for the most part? Because that was my approach so far.

I maximized my input. I bought a Vulgata and started reading at least an hour per day. After finishing it I came back to learning the rules, reading Wheelock right now, I am halfway in and have no problems reading Virgil or Ovid

Πρώτος για τσουρέkι

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ωραίο τσουρέkι φαμ

jewish, the most powerful language in the world.

is watching videos at like 75% a legitimate way to train my listening or should i try watching them at normal speed even if i miss a lot of stuff?

normal speed, you need to train your ears to hear in the speed people actually speak

I watched English videos at normal speed and listened to parts I didn't understand again until I got what they said

My head is hurt after 24 hours of listening to disney songs in french. It's always like this, i'd never thought learning language can be harmful.
They have canadian french dub too, should i listen it too or it's really different french?

Latin was taught that way for centuries, it was basically synonymous with teaching grammar as a concept in many parts of Europe

The fuck you’re doing man? Just practice fewer hours, no need to hasten your learning.
Also Canadian French is another variation with a very distinct accent although the grammar is pretty much the same. If you’re a beginner I will recommend to stick with one version and only try to consume more media of the other when you’re at an advanced level.

>I bought a Vulgata and started reading at least an hour per day
based and breadpilled

It's not very useful way to actually learn the language. My teacher may be to blame but after a year of latin in HS I could only read the very simple latin phrases that was in our textbook--that I could probably read even without the classes. I couldn't read a single book by myself.

I wonder if it was of any help to people back then.

Ήταν στο Τερkενλής στο Θεσσαλονίkη σήμερα. Παρά πολλοί άνθρωποι εkεί kαι 1kγρ του τσουρέkι ήταν 16 ευρώ, μα είναι ωραίο, ναι.

Well, I can see it working a hundred years ago, when kids in good schools had more than one or two classes of latin per week for one year only, but actually had it several times a week for years, just like we have english today, with stricter teachers and actual literature to read and analyse like you did with the bible

I imagine you'd never run into a kid who went to a jesuit school in 1900 who didn't hold latin grammar in the bag by the time he graduated and who didn't read virgil. Today it's more of a tradition than anything, no one cares about latin. If they did, they'd teach it differently

there's a popup dictionary for japanese called rikaichan that tells you when there are word endings that describe tense, negation, volition, etc.
does something like this exist for finnish, or at least a dictionary that can parse morphemes like that? it's incredibly useful.

>no one cares about latin
It's a shame. Learning latin has been one of the best decisions I made in my life. It's more fulfilling than any modern language I tried to learn so far. Maybe because of the great literature you get to read in it's pure form. I only regret not starting earlier.

It would be great to have that for all languages. I know that you can import dictionaries with yomi-chan, I wonder if it would work with dictionaries that are not in japanese.

Heu, fortasse res mutabunt

>can't decide whether I should be sensible and learn french or let my inner weeb run wild and learn japanese
I might just flip a coin.

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Try both.
Learn french the right way, with books and word lists and learn japanese the weeb way, with visual novels + ITHVNR and online shitposting.

Is Hebrew called "Jewish" in French?

I learned french in school for 4 years so there's a lot of residual knowledge there which is why it would be quite sensible for me to learn it. Taking a peek at /fr/ I could understand more than I expected even. Plus it's a country I'm actually close to.
But man learning a language that is completely different from our european ones sure is intriguing and japanese is a pretty obvious favorite for that.

Considering how easy french would be for me I'm honestly wondering now whether it's viable to learn both.
Has anyone here ever tried learning more than one language at a time?

Not the same guy but you seem more interested in Japanese than french at the moment. I’d pick Japanese if I were you.

I am doing exactly what I told you. two hours ago I was studying italian now it's shitpost time. I am progressing quite well

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English and France, still no good with both

Πως σου φάνηkε η Θεσσαλονίkη kαι που αλλού πήγες στην Ελλάδα? Επίσης εσύ δεν είσαι εkείνος ο Πολωνός που δεν του αρέσει η Γερμανία επειδή του θυμίζει μια πρώην του?

Friendly reminder that the only Nordic language you should learn is Swedish

cornish

>why yes, i am learning danish, how could you tell?

I'm plenty interested in french. If I wasn't I'd lust keep letting it rot like I have since I finished school.

Guess I might as well try. I can always drop one of them if it's too much. Now to look up resources for french.

And good luck with your studies user.

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bruh

Friendly reminder that we basically should stop debating learning methods and really just shut /lang/ down

/thread

No, without /lang/ I won't be able to justify my lack of progress
Where will I go shitpost my study time away without /lang/? I don't want to go leddit

τσουρεkι τραβεστι, χρυσοπληρωτο

Based

based and exit-pilled

anyone got any of that sweet sweet french music
grill singers pref
need something to put on repeat whilst in the conjugation mines

>whilst in the conjugation mines
good luck in that hell, bro

>thousands of langs to learn
>even more middle/old langs to learn
lads we gotta work on a time machine

ah come on, french conjugations aren't that hard

How?

Seriously? It's so trivia like. You need to memorize a lot.

Based
Learn Latin for a head start on all the Romance languages
Better yet learn PIE for a head start on everything from Irish to Hindi

>Better yet learn PIE for a head start on everything from Irish to Hindi
stupid malaka

Learn Greek too, obviously. There's nothing better than reveling in the winged words of that honey tongued ὁ Ὅμηρος
In fact I prefer it to Latin actually

How do you study from it? I have a Spanish Bible translated from the Vulgate and want to try the same thing, but I have no idea how to actually approach it.

delete these

pretty sure /ourguy/ paul from langfocus is an alien

He has a weird face tbqh

If I learn Japanese will people assume I'm a weaboo pedophile?

yes

I'll assume you're a homoerotic nationalist

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you would just spam the rest of Jow Forums like everyone else does

Slitting wrists while dark evil spirits like Slytherin
Slither in with tricks, I'm sick

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>he fell for the harry potter meme

>have a job
>read often
>learning a language
how can I manage my time without dropping any of those?

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Read in your target language

already started, gonna finish all the books before i read something else

I read obscure books on history that are only available in English :(

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You'll have to start reading more often in your target language. I usually read something in Spanish or Japanese on topics that interest me.

If Serbia died would you become interested in Serbian?

Since you love dead languages most of all, serbbro

>I know that you can import dictionaries with yomi-chan, I wonder if it would work with dictionaries that are not in japanese.
tried it and yes it does, but the inflections aren't part of the dictionary files, so you would only get the base words unless you had one containing all forms (likely too big).

Sorry, I had to go out for a bit.

You are probably already familiar with the Bible, right?
You can just read it. Don't bother to translate every single word you don't know. As long you can make some sense of it you will pick the meanings with time. You only need to establish a good flow.

Might sound a bit weird but I like to drink a bit before long readings in languages that I am not very familiar with. I get more focused and get less bothered about the little things. Find readings of it online to do while you are studying, it helps to get you to move faster and aids comprehension (sometimes you don't immediately get the meaning of the written word but when you listen you get it)

Don't overthink it

Thank you for the reply. I've been going very slow and trying to get every last thing perfect, that's probably the problem.

I used some readings from this site
live.bible.is/bible/LATNV1/MAT/1?audio_type=audio

Language exercises:
>Beginner
That is a tall building.
Your house is very beautiful.
I go to work by car.
>Intermediate
The kids are singing Christmas carols.
I went for a walk with your mother.
I don't like going on long walks.
>Advanced
My parents are getting divorced because they get into fights all the time.
I used to wrestle crocodiles to make money.
I don't like spring because I am allergic to pollen.

Shalom /lang/
Finally, an Israeli
תקן בבקשה את הטעויות שלי בעברית

>>Beginner
>That is a tall building.
Εkείνο είναι ψηλό kτίριο
>Your house is very beautiful.
Το σπίτι σου είναι πολύ όμορφο
>I go to work by car.
Πηγαίνω στη δουλειά με το αυτοkίνητο

>>Intermediate
>The kids are singing Christmas carols.
Τα παίδια τραγουδάν kάλαντες
>I went for a walk with your mother
Πήγα έναν περίπατο μάζι την μαμά σου
>I don't like going on long walks
Δεν μου αρέσει να πηγαίνω μεγάλα περίπατα

>Language exercises:
>>Beginner
>That is a tall building.
C'est un construction grand
>Your house is very beautiful.
Ton maison est tres beau
>I go to work by car.
Je va a la travail en car
>>Intermediate
>The kids are singing Christmas carols.
Les enfants chantent des chansons du Noel
>I went for a walk with your mother.
J'ai marchè avec ta mere
>I don't like going on long walks.
Je n'aime pas aller marches longue

I know my french sucks tho

初級
これが高い建物です
あなたの家はとてもきれいです
車で仕事を行くである
中級
クリアランスキャルロを子供たちが歌っている
あなたのお母さんと散歩した
長い散歩は嫌いだ
上級
花粉症だので春が嫌いよ

>Beginner
Det är en hög byggnad
Ditt hus är väldigt vackert
Jag åker bil till jobbet
>Intermediate
Barnen sjunger julsånger
Jag tog en promenad med din mamma
Jag gillar inte att ta långa promenader
>Advanced
Mina föräldrar skiljer sig eftersom de bråkar hela tiden
Jag brukade kämpa krokodiler för att tjäna pengar
Jag gillar inte vår eftersom jag är allergisk mot pollen

>Beginner
הבניין ההוא גבוה
הבית שלך יפה מאוד
אני נוסע לעבודה במכונית
>Intermediate
הילדים שרים שירים (Funny that I have no idea how to write Christmas in Hebrew)
אני הלכתי לטייל עם אמא שלך
אני לא אוהב ללכת לטיולים ארוכים (I'm dubious about this aruchim here)
>Hard
ההורים שלי הם מתגרשים מפני שהם לוחמים כל הזמן (milchama is the only word i know that is related to fight, i felt like this is the wrong verb to use here though)
אני לחמתי עם קרוקודילים לעשות כסף (honestly i dont know how to write "used to" or if krokodilim is correct)
אני לא אוהב את אביב מפני שאני אלרגי לאבקה (please tell me the difference between the various "becauses" in Hebrew (בגלל מפני ש...etc)

>C'est un construction grand
C'est une construction grande
"Construction" is feminine
>Ton maison est tres beau
Ta maison est très belle
Maison is also feminine so everything changes to accord with it.
>Je va a la travail en car
Je vais au travail dans ma voiture
>J'ai marchè avec ta mere
marché. Although I would say
Je me suis promené avec ta mère.
>Je n'aime pas aller marches longue
Je n'aime pas faire des marches trop longues.

>I know my french sucks tho
We are all here learning so don't be too hard on yourself.

>page 8
Do you fuckers want to learn a language or not?

Yes, but the fucking Israeli won't correct me

>Beginner
>That is a tall building.
Ese es un alto edificio.
Aquest és un alt edifici.
See on pikk hoone.

>Your house is very beautiful.
Tu casa es muy hermosa.
La teva casa és molta bella.
Su kodu on väga ilus.

>I go to work by car.
Voy a trabajo por carro.
Vaig a treball per cotxe.
Lähen autoga tööle.

>Intermediate
>The kids are singing Christmas carols.
Los niños estan cantando villancicos.
Els nens estan cantant nadales.
Lapsed on jõululaulude laulmine.

>I went for a walk with your mother.
Voy a caminar con tu madre.
Vaig a caminar amb la teva mare.
Lähesin su emaga kõndida.

>I don't like going on long walks.
No me gusta ir a caminatas largas.
No m'agrada anar a caminades llargues.
Mul ei meeldi pikad jalutuskäigud läheda.

>Advanced
>My parents are getting divorced because they get into fights all the time.
Mis padres los estan divorciando porque los inician disputas todo el tiempo.

>I used to wrestle crocodiles to make money.
Yo solía luchar los cocodrilos para hacer moneda.

>I don't like spring because I am allergic to pollen.
No me gusta la primavera porque soy alérgico a polen.

I felt I could try the Advanced ones for Spanish, how did these all go?

what does "niche" mean? as in, "niche movie", "niche game", etc

It means it has a limited appeal, or that it's only popular to a small group of people.

Not a Spanish speaker so take this with a grain of salt:
Beginner: I'd translate "That" as "Aquel"; "Car" as "coche";
Intermediate: "Voy a caminar" translates to "I will take a walk", so that's incorrect, it should be (I think) "Fue a caminar";
Advanced:
mi padres estan divorciandose porque ellos pelean todo lo tiempo

It’s a jew, you gotta pay for those corrections, silly goym.

Kielen harjoitukset: Suomi

[HELPPO]
>That is a tall building.
Tuo on pitkä rakennus.

>Your house is very beautiful.
Talosi on hyvin kaunis.

>I go to work by car.
Minä menen töihin autolla.

[KESKI]
>The kids are singing Christmas carols.
Lapset lauluvat joululauluja.

>I went for a walk with your mother.
Menin kävelemään sinun äidin kanssa.

>I don't like going on long walks.
En pidä menemisestä (pitkissä kävelyissä?).
I'm very unsure about this one.

[VAIKEA]
>My parents are getting divorced because they get into fights all the time.
Minun vanhemmat aikovat [divorce], koska he (taistelevat?) koko ajan.

>I used to wrestle crocodiles to make money.
Minulla oli tapana taistella krokotiileja, jotta sain rahaa.
*If someone knew how to make this sound more natural, it would be great.

>I don't like spring because I am allergic to pollen.
En pidä keväästa, koska olen (allergic to siitepöly).

ooo, I see... kay, understood. Thanks!

Autism seems to be a very hard language to grasp, why are you doing this to yourself?

I'm getting used to Suomi's funny grammar. I don't wanna leave it now.

He's right you know. I need shekels for my corrections.

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Is the third language Estonian?

Yeah. Don't have a lot down yet, so I likely have a bunch of it off.

>Beginner
That is a tall building.
>Det är en lång byggnad
Your house is very beautiful.
>Din hus är väldigt väckert
I go to work by car.
>Jag pendla till kontoret på bil

>Intermediate
The kids are singing Christmas carols.
>Barnen sjunger julsongs (idk if there's a special word for carol)
I went for a walk with your mother.
>Jag gick på en promenad med dinna mor
I don't like going on long walks.
>Jag tycker inte om att göra på lång promenader

>Advanced
My parents are getting divorced because they get into fights all the time.
>Minna föräldrar splitta upp på grund av de alltids kämpa
I used to wrestle crocodiles to make money.
>Förut skulle jag kämpa mot (idk wrestle) krokodilar om att få pengar
I don't like spring because I am allergic to pollen.
>Jag tyker inte om vår, eftersom jag är allergisk mot ...pollen

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