Is it true that the Ukrainians saw the Germans as liberators?

This. At that time, Ukrainians would have welcomed any invader and call them liberators.

>They're ruled by a literal Jew now
they elected him
>The brainwashing runs deep
fuck off to your containment board

lol ask MILLIONS of soviets who starved. No need to be butthurt Ivan

>Only among the upper classes
Utter bullshit

Hard to grow wheat outside the Urals in Siberia. The Germans captured almost all of Central Russia where they grew most of the grain.

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Funny dichotomy. If you point to the crimes/ mistakes of the Germans you are Stalinist and Communist. Always like this

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lol ever heard of holodomor? yeah right you almost genocided whole ukraine by starving them to death

The first couple of days they thought so, I think.

Holodomor isn't a thing.

yes, as any non-commie

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yes it is, ask the ukrainians who have witnessed it

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As Machiavelli said, the bydlo think that the new ruler will be better than the old one, but often the new one is even worse than the old one. BTW this stupid cattle deserved famine, the Holocaust, and salaries of $ 400.

Yet over 4 million Ukrainians joined the Red Army.

Stalin was a Georgian. Other Soviet nobles were Jews, Poles, Armenians and Latvians.

Famines aren't genocide no matter how hard you want them to be. Intentionally sending people to camps where they are intentionally killed is though.

This.

> implies that they had a choice
LMAO

faminmes which are created to kill as many people as possible is certainly genocide

cope

> they take away all the food
> you are not allowed into the city where there is food
> you do not have the opportunity to leave the country
This is a real genocide, on all counts.

>they elected him
Does that make him a good leader? Democracy is the stupidest thing ever created.

If Germans had bothered with the Ukranians, they would have taken down Russia.

this

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>faminmes which are created to kill as many people as possible
>implying the USSR engineered a fake famine (?) to kill people

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Learn history. Nothing can take down Russia.

Except the Mongol horde.

Russia ended in 1917. The USSR was ruled by Jewish colonists.

>famine happens
>Why are russians so evil

Most of the peasants in the USSR received passports only in the 70s. It is for you to understand that the peasants in the USSR were third-class people.

The was no russia then

they did to crush ukrainian resistance

Famine was intentionally created by the Jews. But famine also took place in Russia and Kazakhstan, to be honest.

>unironically repeating archaic propaganda

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>Famine usually happens
>Genocide happens
>Deportations happen
>ethnic cleansing happen

You are funny my retarded friend ...happens

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Thanks for proving my point. Jews, churkas and Latvians make up 7% of the population and 31% of the leadership.

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I'm assuming you are saying these millions of Ukrainians joined the Red Army under threat of death by Soviets, right?
By joining the Red Army they were under threat of death by Germans instead. So either way, their lives were at risk.
Why did they choose to risk death by Germans instead of death by Soviets then?

We did help Lenin ...now what?
The whole shit started with that Georgian
Джyгaшвили.

Can't really blame us for that, can you !?

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Because they had no choice?

The founder of the Gulag was a Latvian.
lv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teodors_Eihmans
Latvia has the largest number of Bolshevik voters in the whole country.
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Latvian Riflemen served Lenin and genocided Russian rebels and peasants.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latvian_Riflemen

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Soviets would shoot you( if you refused) and send your families to work camps, but many will still survive.

Germans will see the Ukrainian as a sub human, and have his entire family shot.

Are you retarded?

All this time I thought was the Jews but it was the latvians the whole time. At last I truly see.

That's literally my point, you moron.

The Germans did not engage in senseless cruelty. Great-grandfather told me that they always returned what they took (horses, playing instruments). Although my ancestors from the steppe regions of Ukraine, where there were no forests and partisans ...

We wuz Gomunists N sheet.
It was us the whole time.
We even killed some Latvians to make it look like we are ''all in '' with the oppression and subjugation ....but it was US that did the killing AHAHAHAAHH

Russians now slander us by calling us Nazis ?

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t.

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I'll try to make it simpler for you
>if they don't join the Red Army, the Soviets want to kill them
>if they do join the Red Army, the Germans will want to kill them instead
Either way, they'll be at risk of death
Why did they side with the Red Army then?

Because if he refuse, they will become a traitor. And being a traitor’s family is ... Too bad to say the least

As opposed to having the nazis try to kill them and burn their villages.
Again, if they don't join, the Soviets want to kill them and if they do join, the nazis will want to kill them. Is being killed by soviets different from being killed by nazis?

This thread is better suited for /his/ by the way. Hope the mods move it there.

NO!

A bunch of Ukrainians were communists!

Krushcev, Brezhnev, and Chernenko were Ukrainians.

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Again. If you refuse, they will shoot you, and your family will be sent to camp, where they will most likely die. If you go, you have the opportunity to survive.

If they had sided with the nazis and fought the Soviets, they would have had an opportunity to survive, wouldn't they?

Retarded commies

scholar leaf

>Krushcev born in Russia, Kursk, no ukrainian blood
>Brezhnev, ethnic russian, no ukrainian blood
>Chernenko, ethnic ukrainian, but was born in siberia, what mean, he is no ukrainian

How would they side with the Nazis, if they were called upon when the Germans were far away?

Don't really know about Ukrainians but Nazis killed less Latvians than Communists so there is that.

youtube.com/watch?v=rfECPYfLRfQ

>lol stop looking at propaganda retard
>here, look at this propaganda instead

based american