Unironically what do Americans actually need their assault rifles for...

Why do american hate their government so much but the next moment praise it as the best thing in the world?
I don't get it

But at least I can protect myself.
Not against the military
Oh by the way guys, there's no such thing as "Assault Rifles", that was made up as a strawman by American anti-gun activists

Man... my celestial girlfriend went crazy with this guy

Not all technology should be accessible to all people. Restrictions are important, or else there will be consequences.

Shhhh, you’ll anger the gun loving statist fat retards.

You saw why today. The shooter was stopped by another man with a gun. You aren't taking them away any time soon, Zhang.

no you can't retard
you are nothing to the government, a tiny cogwheel which can be replaced or removed with no consequences
you having or not having weapons has no impact on big rich guys who rule your country and if they really wanted to disarm you, you would already have no weapons and if you resisted you'd be in jail
americans are deluded

I love my celestial girlfriend.

god that's such a stupid fucking question.

The constitution says that the people need to be stronger than the government. That means the combined interests of the people supersede the government, the civilians are supposed to be their own army...

>bill of needs

I like funs and I would kill my own children to have them
t. americunt

That's where the militia comes in. If we all banded together, we can end them or break away.

>it's not about the equipment at that point but strength in numbers.
your argument defeats itself.

>implying you can overthrow globalist jewish jobbernment

constitution can say any retarded bullshit that makes common dumbass feel better

>But at least I can protect myself.
Again, you can do that with other firearms too.
>Not against the military
What? If you mean "can't defend against military", SWAT teams are law enforcement or not?
>there's no such thing as "Assault Rifles"
But there are. Do you mean "There are none sold to civilians?" because they lack the select-fire thing?

defending my synagogue from whitey

Yes
the US was literally formed because people revolted against the government. Of course that is exactly what they had in mind with the second amendment.

the sad part is that american conservatives 100% believe guns would protect them if the government decided to limit their freedom

it's shocking to be in a thread with so many statists

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because muh rights

t. pinochet

>hunting
>defending against bad guys with guns
>in case of an invasion of a foriegn cunt
>most importantly, when big gubmant steps out of line

Where?
You don't need one to defend yourself and also useless against the government but they are way more dangerous than guns.

>That's where the militia comes in
nobody in their mind aside few hillbillies would risk their life over a piece of metal or some bizarre freedom idea in a time of smartphones, hamburger and internet

>NO! you can't defend yourself! you have to rely on the police to protect you!

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Really? Most of the countries posting ITT have had oppressive totalitarian governments. Is it really so surprising that these posters, the descendants of people who submitted (or probably abetted) those governments in their oppression would not support the citizen over the state?

Good answer

you wouldnt need a gun to defend yourself if the thief didn't also have one

>the sad part is that american conservatives 100% believe guns would protect them if the government decided to limit their freedom

ur a bit vague on 'freedom'. i'm actually confused as to what you're trying to say

That's not true. I can see why a gun is useful for self-defense

Why do germans hate their government so much but the next moment praise it as the best thing in the world?

1 on 1, an authoritarian government will stomp your ass. but what if an authoritarian government had to kick in the door of thousands of citizens, and the citizens could fight back? it's multiplication of risk.

>implying it's Jewish
You're part of the reason why this has gone on too far
>Again, you can do that with other firearms too
Not as effectively
>What? If you mean "can't defend against military", SWAT teams are law enforcement or not?
They'd be part of the problem
>But there are. Do you mean "There are none sold to civilians?" because they lack the select-fire thing?
No, I mean it's a made-up category that nobody taken seriously in the gun world uses.
It's at least a safety net, cause the US government would think twice about taking more forceful actions if they know the populace is armed.
You're not getting my point Vlad, it's not about the guns themselves, it's about "oh shit, the government is doing human rights violations against their own people". People would lay down their lives in such a case.

I mean firearms can be equalizers for physically weaker people?

>need
fuck off

The American government system is designed with many fail safes so one person or a group cannot seize too much power. The 2nd amendment is one of those fail safes. In theory, US citizens can become ungovernable through armed resistance if the government infringes on their natural rights. It's not that we hate the government, we like having checks and balances

so women and old people can get fucked then and be left powerless against a young male aggressor?

please be fucking joking you double digit IQ gypshit
in America there are more guns than people, it's retardedly easy to get a gun illegally
please think before you post thanks
fucking faggot ass leftists throughout the whole thread ITT. must be how Brexit threads feel for brits

I love my celestial girlfriend so much.

when seconds count the police are only minutes away

friendly reminder to all americans: the police are not actually responsible for protecting you

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_of_Castle_Rock_v._Gonzales

They are severely mentally ill and have broken communities.

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It’s hard to understand guns unless you grew up around them. Your dad pulls out some guns when you’re ten and you poke holes in paper or blow up fruits. It’s exciting, the guns are beautiful machines, and you realize it’s an enjoyable hobby. You’re well-aware they’re deadly, but you also understand them to be tools for hunting and self-defense, and also very fun toys that you have to be careful with. The ones without experience associate guns with mass shootings and action movies, so it’s no surprise they’d be touchy about them. People who own assault rifles usually understand this, so they don’t think of it as a big deal. A tacticool gun is like a mixture of a sports car and a hammer; fun, dangerous, and useful. The idea of losing them is very much like a person having to give up their porsche because others think it’s dangerous, or even like a hobbyist who can no longer use the most effective tools for their hobby. Now, some see them as a way to protect themselves from the govt or to make them competitive in their daydream gunfights, but for many it’s just a tool for their hobby. We all have instinctual tendencies for self-preservation, a need to feel secure, and usually attach a certain degree of romanticism to war and violence. This probably plays a role in this situation, but it’s usually secondary. Anyway, nobody really needs an assault rifle, but people are going to be just as hesitant to let them go as they would a luxury like alcohol. As a gun owner who understands the potential dangers, I’m ok with some stricter policies for ownership, but not if they limit what a person can reasonably acquire.

>the government is doing human rights violations against their own people
baka patriots with guns supported sending their youth to vietnam

We don't have to justify having them. It's in the constitution as a god given unalienable RIGHT. Just like we don't have to justify we should be allowed to say what we want we don't have to justify why we can arm ourselves. Get fucked freedom hating boot licking scum.

No, even if the government would fight against its citizens, the amount of civilians would outnumber the soldiers and in that case guns would also be enough
A SWAT team only using guns would kick your shit due to the strategical advantage by numbers.
A SWAT team would very likely lose if they have to fight a small town armed with only guns

It’s hard to understand guns unless you grew up around them. Your dad pulls out some guns when you’re ten and you poke holes in paper or blow up fruits. It’s exciting, the guns are beautiful machines, and you realize it’s an enjoyable hobby. You’re well-aware they’re deadly, but you also understand them to be tools for hunting and self-defense, and also very fun toys that you have to be careful with. The ones without experience associate guns with mass shootings and action movies, so it’s no surprise they’d be touchy about them. People who own assault rifles usually understand this, so they don’t think of it as a big deal. A tacticool gun is like a mixture of a sports car and a hammer; fun, dangerous, and useful. The idea of losing them is very much like a person having to give up their porsche because others think it’s dangerous, or even like a hobbyist who can no longer use the most effective tools for their hobby. Now, some see them as a way to protect themselves from the govt or to make them competitive in their daydream gunfights, but for many it’s just a tool for their hobby. We all have instinctual tendencies for self-preservation, a need to feel secure, and usually attach a certain degree of romanticism to war and violence. This probably plays a role in this situation, but it’s usually secondary. Anyway, nobody really needs an assault rifle, but people are going to be just as hesitant to let them go as they would a luxury like alcohol. As a gun owner who understands the potential dangers, I’m ok with some stricter policies for ownership, but not if they limit what a person can reasonably acquire.

this is why your country is a murderous shithole amerilards

because we are very based

Your post makes literally no sense, fuck off.

I'm confused.... it sounds like we agree. so what's your argument? that people should not have semi-automatic rifles? that people should fight with bolt or pump actions?

Irrelevant to topic, Vietnamese people aren't Americans

That and also you keep your distance. Of course you can get shot too but I'd rather have 1v2 gunfight than a 1v2 melee. That's just my uneducated opinion though.

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>what do Americans actually need their assault rifles for?
"assault rifles" are just semi autos in an intermediate rifle caliber. It uses technology thats over 100 years old and similar to non "assault rifles", like pistols. Almost any gun will be useful in a situation where everyone is unarmed and massed, so there's no point in giving them up since A: its a slippery slope to loosing all gun rights and B: "shall not infringe" philosophy denies the government from stripping away everyone's rights to bare arms

I assume conscripts stop being american as well

literally clutching my AR right now and reassuring it that some euros through the computer screen won't take it

The military is full of people who hate the government and love their guns so yeah it'd quickly fragment

youtube.com/watch?v=js0haocH4-o
might be relevant to your interests

americans are often confused

pppoopoo?

What's your point Vlad? This is, again, irrelevant to the topic.

romania, I appreciate your culture and history and your beautiful women but this whole weird authoritarian thing is NOT very cash money of you

This thread I made for my celestial girlfriend

for fun?

It's embedded into the culture. Imagine if your government decided to ban alcohol as a public health measure, would everyone happily follow the new rules?

Hi. US gov zogbot here.

Who do you think would be sent around to prevent the citizenry from resisting tyranny? You think the ones who actually believed the programming and were good little nazi’s would be more successful in the states that the mil as a whole has been in Afghanistan?

Don’t be foolish.

What do you mean Moron? The G36 is an AR the AK is an AR the AR 15 is an AR so on so on. Intermediate cartridge select fire firearms.
What do you call this category?

I trust the average citizen with weapons a lot more than police or the government.

my point is that american government was able to send young people to die for no reason at all in asia and nobody but bunch of hippies who were declared enemies later protested against that

Not American but let me put it this way, government is gay and letting them take away your rights for any reason is gay. Side note, are flags not loading for anyone else? Did Jow Forums get rid of them?

I got flags, aussie dude

this. I find it weird how a lot of liberals are constantly ranting about how incompetent or aggressive the police are, but then turn around and ban guns so you can only rely on the police for defense. it makes zero sense

I still see them here

Nigger, what makes you think you're a threat to your government, or that a rifle is some kind of deterrent to them.

If anything, the littlest suspicion on someone's who's been spotted with a rifle is enough reason for having someone blow your head with a sniper rifle.

Remember the hotel dude? It was a shitty airsoft and he got executed being unarmed. What makes you think you'd survive the full force of the military institution?

it really be a big think

>police brutality, they're killing minorities!!
>give up your guns, the police exists to protect you

haha kill me

Because that's war? Which is different from abusing your domestic citizens.

Lol nvm flags are back

Pretty interesting.
Everytime guns and self-defense get mentioned I always have only the scenario of robbers/rapists/murderers entering your home in my head.

Didn't /b/ made someone beat themselves up?
I think it was some pornstars boyfriend or something like that

>that's war
did I miss something and Vietnam declared war on you or any NATO country

I mean if we're talking about him alone, he'll get his brains smeared all over a wall lmfao.

the whole protect from tyranny meme only works when the majority of citizens decides to rebel-- or something like ruby ridge, where you have a standoff between government workers and civilians and neither side wants the situation to escalate further

The "assault rifles" that american civilians can buy cannot shoot in fully automatic mode like their military counter parts. Thereby, they are just "semi-auto rifles".

under no circumstance would the 200 killo, soy consuming, BLACKED.com subscribing american conservatives be able to stop the government, even one that did not have popular support
the gun issue exists only to distract the population from relevant political discussion

>NO! Oh my god, you can't win against the military with your guns! Just roll over and take it! That's obviously better!

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Hello, do you not remember the function of a gun? It's a device that causes death. Unless the faction teaches their soldiers to not fear death to the point that ISIS does, a government is going to be at least a little more cautious when they know that the enemy is armed.
We declared war on them. Declaration of war doesn't have to be mutual in order for it to be a war.

>nobody but hippies
kek we had a complete cultural 180 and a total distrust of the government from that point forward. The entire east coast looked like a warzone, cars were lit on fire and stores were broken into everywhere. All of our music from that era is raising the middle finger to the government.
youtube.com/watch?v=ec0XKhAHR5I
youtube.com/watch?v=wJVpihgwE18
youtube.com/watch?v=LQUXuQ6Zd9w

>No, I mean it's a made-up category that nobody taken seriously in the gun world uses.
Didn't know that since you usually get articles/results for assault rifles.
>Not as effectively
Probably but I think the request to ban those firearms is because they are a bigger threat to society like school shootings.

The point is that you don't need something like an AR-15 to defend yourself (against the government).

there's a video clip somewhere on the internet of some female cop gunning down some dude who tries to assault her.

>She's walking down a street at night.
>A car pulls up beside her and some dude just runs out to grab her
>she backs up a bunch, pulls hand gun out (of her waistband I think) and shoots him in the gut.

didn't happen in the US, I believe, but self-defence situations can def happen outside

Self-defense situations with rifles and shotguns mostly happen at home or on your property tho.