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No. They're just tired of a shithole.

All roads lead to Skopje.

OH, the balls on this guy. Macedonians are an ancient, aryan people and Skopje is Fifth Rome (After Bucharest).

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It would be an act of humanity to remove all the mid income reaning people from center and sell their estate to the comanies that know to take care of the residentsl assets. These people have lost their sence of beuty and therefor arent to be condindered humans and thrested as such anymore. Not to mention let alone high E1b adminxutre from montenegrin emigration

Why the fuck do we have 1.2 million apartment who don't have owners. But every apartment I see is expensive as fuck?

Because lack of investment culture and all the money is dumped into real estate. Also blame low property taxes.

Best infrastructure in the entire Balkans

I would kill myself if I had to live in any of your cities, except Sofia of course

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>living in the city instead of suburbs
Why?

Based

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>investment culture
So the lack of investments make things more expensive because lack of competition?
>property taxes
So governments fault?

>Better access to stores
>Better schools
>Buzzing city life
>Better internet and other infrastructure
>Don't have to be a suburban retard

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>His country doesn't have a south, a west or an east

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>What are Russians

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>Buzzing city life instead of a nice quiet life
>Better access to stores than a 5 minute drive to any store
>Better schools
This one I agree
>Better internet
Depends
>Don't have to be a suburban retard
But lifestyle wise it's much better. You have a house instead of a lousy apartment, with your own garden and nice neighbours.

It has the Albanian half and the Macedonian half, does that count?

Ok, I accept.

I can't stand the rural retard life. I want to look out of my balcony and see cars, people, energy, honking, couples, business, etc. It energizes me. If I see chickens I will kms

Have roosh the pickup artist explain why:

youtube.com/watch?v=NlYP8-3TrOA

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>His country has never built a bike path

>His country is in the EU as a geopolitical mistake and not by merit

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So you don't want to live in the rural parts of your country as an old man?

>suburban
>reduces your sex drive
Well, of course if you don't have a wife, what a fucking cuck.
>starts making you care about material shit
Isn't it the same in apartments? This is the most retarded shit I've seen. You can buy stereos and gaming consoles and other shit for you apartment too and become a materialistic shit like other people in the rest of the block do.

Also
>Half hour drive
What the fuck, I live in a suburb and will drive 5 minutes to get in the city.

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Report all Turkish flags.

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>Before was November
>Now is June
such an improvement wowooowooowee

lack of investment culture means people don't know what to do with their money and invest into houses and apartments. thus the rapid increase in real estate prices.

sitting on a bench in Plovdiv

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Alright thanks. How could we combat the lack of investment culture. Education in economics, maybe?

>the sound of roast lamb being metabolized

what

Education and good financial institutions help in every situation, we are not particularly good at either. Better than most of the world, but still.

translation: it's empty, and people who are left in the cities are lying on their on their backs with their bellies full of roast lamb

now in a grim part of town
might die

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>I can't stand the rural retard life. I want to look out of my balcony and see cars, people, energy, honking, couples, business, etc. It energizes me. If I see chickens I will kms

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Run, bro. I can sense gypsies

Why don't you go take a walk in stolipinovo?

checked, save your ass NAO

just died lads

Jokes on you, rural life is best.

>construction sites look better when finished

This desu. Just imagine living in a place where all of your neighbors are dull fucking PEASANTS. Literal horror.

>dull fucking PEASANTS
Calm down, Laszlo. If you like the city life, I have nothing against it, but suburban or rural life is much quieter and overall better than hearing your neighbours from above how they fight or continously hearing cars and honks.

For price of ruined flat in centar you could get a nice novogradjna in any other part of city. Most of good discount stores are usually offset out of center and good paying jobs too. Here Novi Beograd and Surcin have the biggest paychecks in whole city. Not to mention traffic jams and air pollution. There is a reason why Stari Grad lost roughly 20% of its population in 2002-2011 span

You are a dumb nigger. You are the blackest retard gorilla nigger I have ever seen.

A communist hating the peasants. Very anti-communistic of you.
>Here Novi Beograd and Surcin have the biggest paychecks in whole city.
What is considered a good salary in these parts?

Eh, city life has its cons. For example, I have to listen to my underage neighbor scream every day while playing video games (fortunately I'm moving elsewhere very soon). But it seems like a minor trade off compared to rural life.
Calm down, animetard.

retarded seljaks want to show off their wealt even in their expense as usual. People should trust financial intitutions more. Investing in gov bonds is the best tho, the safest way of investment but more profitable than boarding money in bank too

You fucking retard. You fucking imbecile. What the fuck are you smoking?
You're the world's least intelligent person.
Fuck you, fuck your shitty opinion and fuck off.
Never post again, and I hope you die, by virtue of a barbed rose being thrusted through your penis.

>minor trade off
I had the same problem when I was living in an apartment and honestly hate living in an apartment. It's just the fact that I have to share an entire building with like 20 more people makes it impossible for me to go back. Now I'm in the suburbs, quiet, barely can hear cars, want to buy a pool for the back yard, want to plant some trees...it's beautiful.

I thought you brainlets were stupid, but it looks like you're an extreme for-real 100% super-retards.

Its 850 euro but its a 2 year old data, also before slight appresiatiom of dinar past 2 years. Its worthy to mention our avg raisen for 100 e during 2018

Don't blame me, blame my parents.

So those are the salaries for the educated people or the average Joe?

Come here and post pics too

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I really doubt that's the average. Maybe in sectors like IT, but that's about it.

Talking about Surcin and Novi Beograd only

So those salaries are only for highly educated people?

Retard, why do you even care about humans you post on 4can

Its average for all employees working in those areas.

>Its average for all employees working in those areas.

I'm asking if they are supposed to have university degrees and not just a high school one, now if its a high school one, that's pretty sweet.

It's not and you know it yourself
>surcin, novi beograd
find me any fucking job in those shitholes that will pay me 800 euros for working as a waiter. If 800 is the average it should pay that much

I'll wait

I don't think education level is THAT indicative of income level post-graduation, this is not Germany.

I think you wanted to reply to the Serbian user, not me.

>If 800eu is average a waiters salary should be 800eu.

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I dont have any deeper analysis about structure of emplyement there. It is accounts everyone from cashier up to subsidises recierving exporting menagement. Chances are big its due to high education of average employed worked. But what really tricks me is that Surcin is just a backwater suburban area where most of large industrial plants are being laid, meaning no banks, univerities, sweet gov jobs, indicating that a factory worker probably doesnt have it bad there

What do you think is average, you fucking shiptar mouthbreather? What programmers make or what retail workers make?

Have some job posting from Novi Beograd, they range from 300 to 400 euros. There are some in the 500-900 range for GERMAN speakers in call centers.

Do you people even know where you live.

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Only shka in IT get to have 800eu+ in paychecks while our people in the IT sector barely get 200eu.

Now let's compare what you can get as a retail worker in Sofia

1500 bgn net - translated €766 euros

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>people not completing a university and working in the field
You literally have to be a brainlet since unis are free and the state gives you gibs if you're a top student.

Those German speaking jobs in Belgrade pay €500-900 depending on how well you speak German

Now let's see what you can get as a German speaker in Sofia - €1000-1500 for doing the same exact shit. Double the pay

These are the first jobs I opened

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Do you have some serbian site like job.bg?
I don't know serbian, so I cant check the jobs they offer.
>indicating that a factory worker probably doesnt have it bad there
Yeah that seems about right, here in Plovdiv a factory job or stacking boxes, is 1000+ levs with no education ,or work experience. I guess those cities are what Plovdiv/Varna are to Sofia?

Jobs for Albanian speakers in Sofia

jobs.bg/job/4829416

both examples are in the higher range, do not indicate the mean salary for those fields

Kek that albo in your pic works in my uncles field

Where did you get his pic

Server salary for a bar in Sofia - €1000-1500 euros

Find one bar in Belgrade that pays servers 1k without tips

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pretty sure that offer implies sucking the owner's dick

>fyromgay in full damage control

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I find it funny how he shilled Serbia over Bulgaria just a few months ago kek

it stays bruto, there all pays are being shwed in neto. If thats true my parents dont even know that their salary is in their own firm

I want to go to the balkans and prelevate an underage wife to take home, what's the recommended procedure?
Anyone here offering daughters or sisters?

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Gypsies give them away for a bottle of beer and a Kaufland sandwhich.

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here all pays*

*discount Elvetia

That says Varna, not Sofia.

You too call Switzerland elvetia?

Igen.

Yes!

Sorry. Whatever

This is what you need to make €2000 a month in Sofia, either a foreign language (German, french, spanish) or a programming language.

If you're uneducated you get from €600-1000.

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>This is what you need to make €2000 a month in Sofia, either a foreign language (German, french, spanish) or a programming language.

Yeah but those kind of salaries are for educated people, most average between 600-1000 Euro as you said.
jobs.bg/job/4819204
Look at how sweet this job is. FUCK.

>senior developer
You will need to jump right into office politics and internal competition.

How much does a physician make?