What is korean culture exactly? < Korean whole culture revolves around hating Japan and having plastic surgery. < Try to Name even one interesting culture from Korea that is not related the statement of "this was originated in Korea not japan!" Or not related just anti Japan statement Or not related plastic surgery. < I have never seen anyone answer this. < No one except korean have a such a pathetic culture. >annexed by japanese >postcolonial state's national identity revolves around resentment and obsession about japan >all industries and institutions were made and/or assisted by japan >copies everything japan does/has, and then claims origin >"japan is this, japan is that" make up for like 99% of domestic arguments >"overcoming japan" is literally the national motto >even its sworn enemy, the northern brother, is a shitty wannabe imperial japan >so butthurt that even a name of sea, the sea of japan, triggers them because it has japan
>the abnormal obsession is easily noticed by foreigners >the Korean government even had ads on the airport subway line complaining about the Dokdo/Takeshima dispute, trying to asset Korean sovereignty over them to every foreign visitors >japan puts the stalker on a watch list, an gooks confuse it with attention >can't help but post "see, korea is featured in a TV-show in dai-nippon! they are obsessed with us!" on a fucking japanese website
Until recently, official line of Hapkido organization was that HKD is a Korean origin. Any similarity to Japanese aikido was due to the *fact* that Korean originated jujitu. Link to choi was hardly mentioned. It only recently that choi's photo start to pop up in HKD dojang.
Choi openly claimed that he was uchideshi of Takeda and represented himself as one of, if not THE student of OS Takeda. He also stated in an intervie that he accompanied Takeda all over Japan and even to Hawaii for a historic presentation in the 1930-s. Moreover, "To date, no evidence, including registrations, taxes, diaries, first-hand witness reports, immigration, employment, census have been found to support these oral traditions." Hence any stories about him being secret student of Takeda or Takeda's wife are bull and obviously proposed by people who needed to make up explanations for the lack of evidence. Also, Choi himself seem to have misrepresented his martil arts background quite frequently.
For anyone who is bothere about it, here are few threads which deal with the topic.
"Anyway, ALL of the prominent Hapkido masters learned from him and his lineage spread rapidly. The odd thing is that most of his students (read, present teachers) deny any connection to him and instead assert that what they teach has 1000-2000 years of Korean martial history, back to the Hwarang etc."
Right here, I have issues. GM Ji, Han-jae, who is the leading authority of HKD has never made a claim to 2000 year old bs. He will be the first to admit that He learned under GM Choi.
"One thing I think is certain, Choi Yong-sul learned something in Japan, was very good at it, and managed to pass it on very well as Hapkido is now everywhere."
Keep in mind that he never called his art Hapkido until later on (that is another controvery in its own right). He called his art Yawara.
"He must have had some knowledge to Daito-Ryu because he at least knew Takeda Sokaku's name. Another problem is that his students modified Hapkido to the extent that it has totally changed. However, apparently, Kim Yun-sang from Kunsan claims to be teaching Hapkido in the original form that Choi Yong-sul taught it."
You don't have to even travel that far. GM Rim, Jong-bae claims to teach "pure" Hapkido as he learned it from GM Choi. Yet another American GM who does not lay claim to 2000 year old bs.
I will say this. I like the links and the articles and I am going to look into GM Jang In-mok as this is the first I have heard of him. Thank you for the information.
Again, for everyone here, I am not saying my report is the written word to be followed. I am more than willing to keep an open mind and explore other avenues. However, I still believe that GM Choi was the grandfather of what we now call HKD. I have yet to find a HKD GM here in America that will not trace his lineage back to Choi.
Kevin Martinez
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Tyler Robinson
I will agree with Miguk on the lineage of HKD going directly back to Choi, and the assertion that he learned a Japanese Yawara/Jujutsu of some sort. I think it is very possible that he learned Daito Ryu, but certainly my worldview won't be shattered if he didn't.
Vapour, as far as Hapkido being 1000/2000 years old, you know that is utter malarkey. OF COURSE the Koreans have been saying that HKD is a Korean system. But Choi claimed that he learned a Japanese system at the very height of the anti-Japanese era, an era, which for the Koreans may never go away. Tell me again why it would be better for Choi to say this, instead of "I learned a secret ancient Korean martial art."
I'm not saying that everything is so certain, but it certainly hasn't been disproven to my satisfaction either.
Grayson Jones
Well, I can't say what a Hapkido organization claims for it's history, but I have personally been a student of Ji Han Jae, and my life-long teacher was a student of Ji Han Jae's in the 1950's and 60's when they instructed President Syngmann Rhee's bodyguards.
Ji Han Jae has never been anything but open that his teacher was Yong Shul Choi, and passed along what Choi told him was the background of what he[Choi] taught. Ji Han Jae, in the 1950's, didn't call his art Hapkido (when my teacher trained with him). He called it "Hapki Yu Kwon Sul," but later shortened it to "Hapkido." To me the change in calling his art a "do" and not "sul" is significant, because "sul" refers to technique only, while a "do" is more of an endeavor beyond technique. GM Ji's Hapkido certainly isn't technique-only instruction anymore, which probably changed when he included his own personal experiences and additional training to the lessons of Choi. Probably the same thing has happened along the way for anyone originally training under Choi, branching out to their own organizations. Choi's original instruction is likely no longer available, but the foundation should be the same from instructor to instructor.
Eli Williams
Guys, Give it up. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> Hapkido's DR link is a dead end road. Yes, the theory is possible to the extent that ailen abduction is possible. Lot of oral accounts with no evidence whatsoever.
As of 2000 years history, if there are few masters who were honest about their link to Choi, good for them. Just that they weren't many or loud enough to change the official line majority followed. It is quite similar to TKD. TKD's Official line was that 2000 years one. General Choi never denied that he studied karate but he pretty much went along with the official line.
As of Choi being the founder, I'm more inclined with multiple founders theory given that major trend in Korean martial arts was to consolidate different organization under (South) Korean flag. But on this point, I can be open minded about either way. Let just say that I won't be surprised if it turn out that many people unrelated to choi were part of founding member of HKD or that those who say they learned from Choi neglect to mention that they also learned from others as well.
James Flores
Oh, as of this marketing Japanese arts in Korea, there were no need to cover Japanese orign whatsoever in Choi's students' generation. Doing so is akin to market aikido as ancient European fighting technique in America. People would immediately spot fraud so any attempt to cover it's Japanese origin is totally pointless. People of this generation had no illusion as to the existence of 2000 years old Korean martial tradition. If someone held (or faked) high ranking aikido/karate/judo grade, he would have no trouble finding student who are eager to learn though someone like Ashida Kim would not have stayed in business for long as many of these students were real hard core. It is what Japanese arts represent which is unpopular. Japanese arts are and were very popular and claiming lineage to one of the most esotric Japanese arts would be extremely profitable marketing move.
Lastly, read Fukuoka's comment in the link I provided. His Engrish is pretty bad but his description of Yawara is far more interesting stuff than wasting time on DR link.
Brandon Baker
>having no job >thinks it's because zainichis stealing his job >writing millions of words with worst English possible which no one will ever take a single look to release his anger toward Koreans >still have no job, living in mom's basement >getting old, die alone
Anyway modern martial arts of korea. Daito Ryu +aikido+laido+karate= hapkido that is not korean tradition.
Please be cautious when you study Korean martial arts under Korean teachers. They have a bad habit of distorting history and stealing the origins. Kumdo, Yudo, Hapkido,and Taekwondo associations are all publicly claiming they completely originated in Korea, in fact they all derive from Japanese martial arts(Kendo,Judo,Aikido and Karate). /watch?v=Fd8oWLXhNG0 /watch?v=FaOCQ9AQyP0 Look what Hapkido was like in 60's. It looked much more similar to Aikido in those days. /watch?v=d_Bt29btUtk The founder of Hapkido Choi YongSul had trained Daito-ryu Aikijutsu under the Japanese master before the war. And both Aikido and Hapkido are written 合気道 in Chinese characters. /watch?v=SW4J5WCrCEU
>What is korean culture exactly? >Korean whole culture revolves around hating Japan and having plastic surgery. >Try to Name even one interesting culture from Korea that is not related the statement of "this was originated in Korea not japan!" >Or not related just anti Japan statement >Or not related plastic surgery. >I have never seen anyone answer this. >No one except korean have a such a pathetic culture. >>annexed by japanese >>postcolonial state's national identity revolves around resentment and obsession about japan >>all industries and institutions were made and/or assisted by japan >>copies everything japan does/has, and then claims origin >>"japan is this, japan is that" make up for like 99% of domestic arguments >>"overcoming japan" is literally the national motto >>even its sworn enemy, the northern brother, is a shitty wannabe imperial japan >>so butthurt that even a name of sea, the sea of japan, triggers them because it has japan >>the abnormal obsession is easily noticed by foreigners >>the Korean government even had ads on the airport subway line complaining about the Dokdo/Takeshima dispute, trying to asset Korean sovereignty over them to every foreign visitors >>japan puts the stalker on a watch list, an gooks confuse it with attention >>can't help but post "see, korea is featured in a TV-show in dai-nippon! they are obsessed with us!" on a fucking japanese website >What a sad people Koreans are...
>韓国人なんかシカトしてけよ What the fuck we did on Jow Forums? Everytime fucking time when we post something about Korea, mentally illed Japanese always invade to the thread and suddenly start to spam a same copypasta and ruin the thread. Does Korean do that in DJT or Japanese thread? Why the fuck you people always doing this ridiculous pathetic thing all day long without a single week-off? And now you think we are the one who is the problem? Go back to your Japanese whatever Channel website which is fucking ugly 1980's style web and masturbate with dirty fat netouyo otaku friends over there
John Morgan
Why are english teachers obsessed with korea
Grayson Sanchez
buy sex
Adam Howard
Dokdo is ....?
Matthew Sullivan
Why japs are so cringe ?
Lincoln Morales
Because of this.
< >""Because ton of monies are involving in this issue."" < >>At 2018 again the Korean government decided to force Japan to pay $24 billion with the money coming from the 245 Japanese companies operating in Korea. Korea tries to force this as compensation for WW2 < Each of the "220,000"of korean people is asking at least "$89,051.50 = ¥10000000". South Korea already forcefully seize the property of some of Japanese companies in Korea at 2018.(crazy but this is the reality.) < >korean is always saying what they need is apologize from japan, then why they are keep on asking such a stupidly huge amount of the money again and again even at 2018.This is the hypocritical act of them < ""They fools the world, to get money and advantage from Japan endlessly."" < The only reason? Money. < >1965 in the Japan-Korea Basic Treaty , japan paid The total amount of 800 million dollars [currently converted 4,500 billion yen] to south korea.The total amount of 800 million dollars is 2.3 times the Korean national budget at the time. < >And Japan's private assets in Korea amount to 5.3 billion dollars (1.98 trillion yen, about 15 trillion yen now converted) was given for free. < en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tre aty_on_Basic_Relations_between_Japa n_and_the_Republic_of_Korea < and 1994 The Asian Women's Fund a total of ¥4.8 billion ($40 million) was provided by the Government of Japan. < And 2015 , the Japan-korea agreements made over comfort women. "Japan paid 1 billion yen again in 2015." < >Also, We can see Japanese government apologists so often, and the government of Japan itself never denied the existence of Japanese war criminals of the past. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lis t_of_war_apology_statements_issued_
by_Japan
Ian Cruz
Answer the question of the op Go ahead
Jayden Martin
Why are there so many mentally ill japs? Is it the radiation?
Nolan Fisher
korean territory
Hunter Robinson
There were no threads about korea recently so the bot activated by itself?
Austin Wright
>Korean whole culture revolves around hating Japan
Swap Korean with Japanese and Japan with Korea, which seems more accurate considering you being obsessed with Korea and Koreans to the point that you unironically spend all the fucking day being an autistic keyboard warrior degrading them every fucking single day
Jackson Howard
Answer the questions What is the exactly korean culture except stealing from japan like this is Or not related plastic surgery
Oliver Walker
Japan and Korea should be allies
Tyler Roberts
>Is it the radiation? Millions of copypasta incoming to lie that Fukushima is safe and there are no radiation in glorious Japan thanks to the ugly emperor who is old like raisin.
Wyatt Edwards
病気だな壊れてる 日本人の恥晒しが
John Butler
Answer the questions What is the exactly korean culture except stealing from japan like this (You) # Or not related plastic surgery
I no trust Japanese. Japanese no apologize for rape of Nanking and they rape innocent korean women. They are worse than dog they eat.
Dominic Myers
キチガイは病院行けよ
Robert Nguyen
お前だよ基地害は
John Lewis
よう基地害
Jaxson Flores
Example of Japanese culture and achievements .
Ukiyoe (influences a lot of impressionist artist in 19cetury West like Van Gogh and so on ).
Makie (Japanese golden powder art work. Popular arround 18 to 19 century of the France in royal art collections.)
Samurai related culture and it’s character image ( if you think it’s copy from China or korea. Name one which is exactly the same things. It’s culture developed in japan by Japanese)
Ninja character image (influenced a lot of Hollywood action movie and common image as character.)
Kyouto culture like geisha.( developed by Japanese).
Zen philosophiy and zen art (developed by Japanese)
A lot of industry and sience achievement.(Daily reminder that many manufacturer in this world ultilize FANUC robot hand which is a Japanese company. Without robot hand of Japanese, many industry in the world can’t do even its business properly anymore.
Who firstly made vitamins from the food was Japanese en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ume taro_Suzuki )and so on more and more
Korea has ZERO Nobel Prize Bytheway
And anime The movie Matrix is effected by anime camera work and effect like DBZ or Kurosawa samurai movie. Star Wars is based on Japanese samurai culture and kurosawa samurai movie . And matrix is one of the movie established nowadays USA movie. A lot of American celebrities or creator is openly saying they like or effected by Japanese modern and traditional art culture.
Kpop is imitation of USA pop add kawaiisim of japan mixer together. How people could copy kpop since kpop is just the entire mass copy of the USA pop and Kawaiisim.
Jaxson Russell
>korean culture Kimchi, K-pop, K-movies, ps, dog soup, strong hate against sunshine, etc...
Korean prostitution in the US is out of control. South Korean lawmakers are concerned about the number of Korean women who have come to the United States to work as prostitutes since the Korea-US Visa Waiver Program ...
