We all agree this is stupid right?
We all agree this is stupid right?
Brandon Jones
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Aiden Sanchez
No, but I think we can all agree you're stupid.
Joseph Foster
yes it is
Adrian Watson
I do agree. It should be replaced by an organization only for democracies.
Liam Perry
yes it is
Jaxon Nelson
No. Why?
Nolan Edwards
yes
Jose Morgan
No, don't fall for Russian propaganda
Elijah Stewart
Chinks use it to gain control and influence over Africa
Kevin Morris
it's where leaders can have a forum
in the good old days politics was less transparent and people get called into devastating wars without checks or notices to the public
let me give you something to illustrate
even with the worst abuse such as imperial japan during the league to nations who used it to their benefit and dropped it right when there is disagreement it served others in that they knew what japan wanted and what it was willing to do to get it, in other words even if the europeans did not act on it they knew japan was willing to be dislike in order to invade china, what failed wasn't the league but rather the league members doing anything about it
this is the same with the un, just this morning it allowed the venezuelan ambassador to address the un without some third party speaking for them, that is we can be pretty clear on what the stance of maduro is taking without a need for some other diplomatic channels, it cuts down on hassel and other stuff
don't make it into some other world order thing you obtuse people want it to be, it's really not, the security council is used as an instrument to check un's own power not the institution that practices it
Jaxon Perry
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It was set up to fail.
David Taylor
veto power means it is a non-binding body in practice, this is so that it can't be a club for the powerful
Landon Campbell
Based idea, but useless.
Is more likely to Jow Forums sit to discuss a world problem a came to a practical solution than UN.
In the brink of a ww3 UN would be powerless to stop it just like was the League of nations.
Brayden Cooper
Sure, you're fine with it.
Your cunt got the veto after all.
The power to stop every resolution against you or your undeclared vassals.
Thank god the French got one too.
Isaac Walker
LatAm and Africa are screwed. XD
Carson Gomez
The UN is great when it works to save my life
t. libyan
>used UN card in 2011 to fuck over gaddafi
>currently using UN to fuck over Militias and Muslim brotherhood government.
Cooper Martinez
Your cunt was objectively better under gaddafi, though.
Kevin Rivera
Yeah it was garbage, now its garbage on fire.
Like yeah right now its fucking shit but it wasnt a heaven under gaddafi, it was a terrible socialist shit hole.
Isaac Campbell
based?
Carter Reyes
>In the brink of a ww3
Meme. No country, not even NK, Russia or USA, Pakistan, or Iran or Israel has the balls to start a full scale worldwide conflict. Also there's not even two or several big factions in the world who hate the other.
This is never happening ever again, at least in the globalization model we have today. If all countries become suddenly Nationalistic and all NGO are abolished, Then we will eventually talk about the possibility of a WW3
Angel Roberts
>nooo NOOO NONONONO YOU *CAN'T* JUST TURN ALL NUCLEAR WEAPONS OVER TO INTERNATIONAL OVERSIGHT NONONONONNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Oliver Harris
no, it's based and nicepilled
Jordan Nelson
>there's not even two or several big factions in the world who hate the other
If there's any chance of a 'global' conflict happening within the near future it'll most definitely and unironically involve these two
Jason Davis
I understand your POV and agree that now is probably harder for a global war to start, but after the second the thoughts were that the first was the only world conflict we would see so it was called "The war to end all wars".
Is good to be always vigilante.
And I think that a global conflict would start in Asia this time not being anti-Chinese but the growing aggressive behavior China is demonstrating against Taiwan and the "south Chinese sea" are making a good caldron with similar aspects to what started the 1 and 2 WW.
Tyler Clark
Except in both WWs you had the most powerful Superpowers and their respective vassals fighting each other at that time:
>WW1:
FRANCE-UK-US (Feat Russia, Serbia, Belgium, Portugal, Italy Romania etc...) VS GERMANY-AUSTRIA/HUNGARY-OTTOMANS (Feat Bulgaria)
>WW2:
UK-USSR-US-FRANCE (Feat Poland, Benelux, Anglo-sphere, Brazil etc) VS GERMANY-ITALY-JAPAN (Feat German vassals and Occupied by force states, Japanese vassals and Occupied by force states etc..)
Any of those countries in capital letters were at the beginning of the war worldwide Superpowers. The only equivalent today would be a conventional war between Russia, China, NK, Pakistan, Arabic world, Syria & Iran, vs NATO/EU & Israel, Japan, India, Canada & Australia.
THAT, would be the perfect WW3 belligerent scenario these days.
Xavier Powell
It needs reform, but don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. The EU should have a permanent UNSC seat (even if that means getting rid of France), as do India and Brazil. The single veto should be replaced by a double veto (two permanent members have to veto something for it to die).
John Bailey
>Russia was only a sideshow in WWI
Until the revolution Russia easily pulled the most weight in WWI.
Aaron Sanchez
>India
Maybe
>Brazil
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Gavin Long
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And in South America we are the ones with best chance to got one, and there is no need to open a sit for a country that is on a region that already has a sit, and isn't a directly rival, for example would be good for Japan, Koren or India a to get a seat to balance China's power and Brazil or any other LatAm country to balance U.S.
But even with it's problems Brazil is the leading nation of LatAm.
Carter Flores
>Putting Russia on the same list as Romania and Belgium in WW1
>Listing France as a great power in WW2
The "anglo-sphere" that you put alongside Poland and Brazil did more to win the war than both the 3rd republic and de Gaulle combined
Dylan Hernandez
No. I like not having political misunderstandings blow up into continent-wide conflicts.
Aiden Hernandez
There are those organizations but we need this to control the non democracies so they dont go apeshit