Fuck I kinda feel sad for him now. How do we help these people?

>empathy for a school shooter
Because he's a subhuman who doesn't belong in society

have sex

>>empathy for a school shooter
empathy for a human being, you seething incel virgin

>empathy for a human being, you seething incel virgin

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unlike you, most people isn't born as a subhuman
also
>belong in society

STEVE

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Wouldnt keeping a prisoner alive for 60+ years cost more than a one time lethal injection and cremation/burial?

Im not for the death penalty, but as far as wasting resources, your post doesnt sound right

>unlike you, most people isn't born as a subhuman

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Honestly, I too would go crazy and shoot up some shit if I had to deal with amerisharts.

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Holy fuck he seems completely retarded in that video intro. No way he’s acting under his own free will, and even then it’s most likely fake. definitely an mkultra victim.

How stupid do you have to be to believe this shit

Lmao

this but unironically

I watched the ten hour interrogation right after he was detained. The kid is fucking retarded.

yeah dude better believe in mkultra and brainwashing dude the world is crazy dude look into it

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If he's on death row the prison will have special conditions to guarantee his safety while he and his lawyers appeal the death sentence. If he has life he's more likely to be put in gen pop and he'll get shanked eventually

>innocent
no such thing. Those high schoolers deserved to be dead and I'm glad

they just need to streamline the process for such cases. evaluate them for a couple years then hang them

>tf
>tp
I'm not surprised

he was 19. he and most of the kids he would have interacted with had graduated.

SHUT UP GUN GRABBING LIBTARD COMMIE
USA USA USA

have sex

I thought he was underaged. If he was underaged he deserves to get out like that mary bell broad after a certain time with a name change and all. But since he is not long prison will do. He will kill himself anyways. What kind of people do you mean? Like schoolshooters? I guess we should stop humiliate people but as a society we can't do that with weak (I like to say strange and stupids but that's not true it is only the weak) so that won't happen. Honestly while I think he is lunatic and he deserves beatings I always sympathize with those who do that weird shit and if they are underaged I believe they deserve anonymity and a free life after sentence. Like iirc there was a bald bitch who bullied him really bad. I don't like her lol. Overall he should have done it at age 14 desu, if he is gonna do something so stupid as that.

You do realize it takes more resources to keep him alive in prison, right?

>Raised by single mom
Ding ding

I unironically advocate for assisted suicide being available, if people have an easy way out, they don't need to brood over not being able to initiate, understand, or benefit themselves with others.

Likely not the root. His mother died iirc.

that girl didnt actually bully him, it was a lie made up by Jow Forumstards because they were seething about her giving a speech in favor of gun control

I support all the shooters all the people who rise up.

No more gigachads, Stephen

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life in prison being raped and stabbed by niggers is infinitely worse than the comfy death you'd get

the worst thing about the death penalty is how long you wait before you're actually executed

deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty

Death penalty averages 30% more expensive than a life sentence

But who was chair?

Left hand, blue. It's over Stephen. Tell me what you did with her.

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I'm not reading this. We keep people on death row for decades. Simply killing them shortly after sentencing wouldn't be expensive.

Killing people because he can't man up and own up to his short-comings. Get this scum out of here.
Of course you guys would sympathize with a murderer.

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>psychiatric evaluation
(((psychologists))) can't find out why he did it.
they don't understand that humans let loose and do bad things as to what society and the law deems as bad

just kill him, for fuck's sake.

>h-he's sad about it! we need to show empathy
fucking soy. throw him in the chair or chamber or firing line or whatever is available

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if your mother was murdered by this guy you wouldn't feel "sorry" for him lmfao

Look at me when I'm talking Stephen

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True? Duh. I wouldn't be able to look at it neutrally. But I would still feel sorry for him same amount, with lots of rage. And I wouldn't be any different of thinking humans need to be nicer.

occasionally do. you offering?

Some of this data is shaddy, they sometime lump together tax payers money and the money put up by the defense but overall I do agree that the economical point leans more toward the anti-death penalty side.

usually people who are getting the death penalty have to use state lawyers bc they cant afford their own and everyone has the right to a lawyer in the us

i think they realize that and they realize sometimes things are more nuanced then we would like them to be

because it's so fucking mismanaged. It's only expensive because the state doesn't fucking kill them for 40 years. If anything your post makes an argument for the death penalty because it only illustrates how long a inmate sits in prison thus bumping up the costs.

true but you have to go through all sorts of appeals sometimes people on death dont end up dying

yep

how is death penalty a waste of resources? it's way way more resources to keep people in prison smart one. death penalty should be almost immediate.
I disagree. I don't believe that is fair punishment at all. People should be shot in the head quickly after being found absolutely guilty. Save money for everyone. Why make taxpayers suffer?

My celestial girlfriend jammed his gun on the top floor and he was basically crying and saying that he didn't even want to do it after the fact. I don't even need to watch this video to know that because my celestial girlfriend is never wrong as far as I know...

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Doesn't fucking matter, he should be put down like a dog for his sins
>empathy
i have empathy for the people he killed and hurt. For them he should be shot in the head, quickly and painlessly. that's empathy

it should be but its not. if you look at the rest of thread the people here explain it nicely

well we should make it that way instead of banning it.

Nice bait.

maybe but what if the person on death row is wrongfully convicted?

My celestial girlfriend kept a really close eye on this fucker.

She told me a lot about him I am watching this video for the first time and it's so familiar.

My celestial girlfriend stopped him from hurting more people because he was going to keep going if she didn't stop him.

I love my celestial girlfriend.

I know that you might be reading this and not believe me, but I am 100% positive that it is a fact she told me about all of this before it happened except she didn't tell me enough to stop it.

I'm not joking.

It's real.

My celestial girlfriend is 100% undoubtedly real...

THIS IS TOO SURREAL EVEN THE INTERVIEW ROOM LOOKS FAMILIAR

WHAT THE FUCK

then don't put them to death without absolute proof. maybe after 40 years of prison they will be found not guilty. Maybe that's even worse than death, who knows.

take this to schizo

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THIS IS TOO FUCKING WEIRD

GUYS I'M NOT LYING

MY CELESTIAL GIRLFRIEND TOLD ME ABOUT THIS GUY

WHAT THE FUCK

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW SHOCKED I WAS WHEN SHE TOLD ME WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN A COUPLE DAYS BEFORE AND THEN IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED?

THIS WASN'T VAGUE LIKE THE NOTRE DAME ONE, THIS WAS A REALLY SPECIFIC ONE AND SHE TOLD ME A LOT ABOUT IT

AAA

I am glad that she stopped him.

NO WAY DUDE, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT

what is wrong with you

I'M NOT FUCKING LYING

IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE BUT IT'S TRUE

SHE IS WATCHING YOU ALL

I don't care if anybody believes me, I just need to say this because it's literally true. She literally told me about this guy.

He should be tortured regularly, but not killed. Give him the gift of vast suffering so that he might properly repent of his crimes.

No this isn't a joke, this is real.

She really told me about this guy.

I don't know what to think about this...

it's not a lie, nobody would believe me, what the fuck.

She was right about everything...

Now you are a person that lacks empathy. he should be taken out back and shot. saves money. there is no excuse for torture, not even if it's hitler or stalin or osama bin laden. all of the worst of society simply need a quick bullet

arab tier response

My celestial girlfriend told me he was going to get the lethal injection but now that I've said this in writing it might change.

but then were do you put him gen pop, max sec? so is the attorney still getting paid for the whole time? you see the dilema

so gen pop

Oh my GOD we get it. I don't fucking care about your celestial girlfriend for fuck's sakes shut up. if you were told of this beforehand good for you but keep it to yourself no one else cares

are you speaking english?

>if you were told of this beforehand good for you but keep it to yourself no one else cares
Do you understand how big of a deal that is that she literally told me about this beforehand?

That's fucking unheard of, that's supernatural, that's unreal.

What the fuck...

maybe you don't understand because you've never had deep contact with the celestials but this is too weird for me.

I don't even know how to feel...

this is just fucking strange...

>
wtf is this I don't get it

red pill me on steve

I am empathetic toward the victims. And toward potential future victims. Harsh punishment has the potential to prevent future crimes. But it needs to be sufficiently harsh. It takes moral courage to reach this conclusion, and most modern people lack that courage.

I believe in an Aristotelian view of society where an individual actor like the shooter is irrelevant as such; he should be used in whatever fashion will most enhance "philia," or social well-being. He is just a tool to be used at this point.

She told me about how much he genuinely regrets it.

She said he didn't even "feel like himself" while he was doing it. Or something likethat...

so Sharia law?

I don't care, I already said that. Shut the fuck up already

You can see dramatic effects on his behavior that are the long term effects of my celestial girlfriend bullying him.

She would always do this thing to him where he "could have" gotten away with something, but instead he didn't, and that really frustrated him a lot because whenever he did something minor and thought nobody would hear about it, some guy was always spilling the beans on him and pissing him off.

It depends. What is the sharia penalty for mass-murder? My penalty is probably much harsher.

You aren't the only person in the thread, what if somebody else cares?

Also, I'm telling the truth, I'm not lying at all... so you should care...

I mean, if you don't care then just don't read what I'm saying.

It's not like anybody has to believe me, but I am surely telling the truth without doubts.

The death penalty is cruel punishment and should be banned for its hypocrisy as killing for killing. It is a tragedy that students are hazed and abused, but does not remotely justify what he did. Such is a symptom of what's wrong in our schools which needs change and sympathy, but also shows how coverage of this terrorism breeds only more, putting the idea in young minds that extreme retaliation to the extent of mass death is how someone can "prove to them all" that it was wrong to be messed with.
Where has the value for life gone?

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Even if he is a piece of shit, have enough empathy for the shooter and the taxpayer to shoot him in the skull. Swift death is harsh enough of a punishment. I think we agree a bit but I see torture as inexcusable for any reason and swift death is good enough of a deterrent. I mean like day after of being found guilty death

You can even see at 18:29 he is clearly looking out for his friend pretending to not know his name just because he didn't want his innocent friend to be blamed for the act.

This is all so fucking familiar to me what the literal fuck.

You see death as worse than lifetime imprisonment? what kind of dumb shit is this? death isn't that bad. shoot em and send em on their way so taxpayers won't bother and they can't harm anyone ever again. cleans up the filth too, because some people are simply rotten

He so clearly got caught up in celestial affairs you can see how much it has effected him.

Why are you giving him attention? That's obviously what he wants.

I don't know. I'm just getting annoyed

I just can't fathom that people don't believe me although I'm telling the truth.