How come this Latin America doesn't have any kind of pan-national sentiment or movement to unify their countries like...

Simon Bolivar is hated here
well, at least by knowers (historians and such), the rest don't care about him

Saddam Hussein literally did everything to destroy the United Arab Republic. ... Libya wanted no part in it aswell, Gadaffi kept just egging Egypt along for gibs.

They did but got called communists and evil by americans and their propaganda

Yeah but keep in mind those goverments are run by megalomanian lunatics. Dunno how Cuba is doing these days but Venezuela is still pretty much a shitshow.

They're pushing the whole "DITCH THE CHAINS AND JOIN US AS BROTHERS" shit but they most likely only want us for our territory and resources. There's no real sense of belonging that they want to nurture, they just want to spread tankie ideology like a virus.

He was such a great man though.

Culturally different even though they speak and have the same heritage.

One day of of Latin America shall be Anglo, as it was meant to be.

way too big and culturally different. However the subregions kinda could work as countries (mesoamerica, caribbean, brasil, southern cone)

he was a british agent

He was a literal dictator here, look it up
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simón_Bolívar

Here, he was one of the most hated individuals during his mandate in Peru
books.google.com.pe/books?id=vpwBAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA313

Because poor argentinians think they are white

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>that don’t make any fucking sense
To arabs. They did make sense to those who decided on them.

Smaller delusions of grandeur and they don't have any real basis for WE WUZing.

in the mirror universe, the latins created the USA and us anglos are the retards who formed a bunch of shitty rump republics

imagine if instead of el salvador being an independent country, it was rhode island. imagine if julian assange had been holed up in the delaware embassy in london for 7 years

just think about how stupid that would be. that's the mortal reality of latin america

Because they've never been united historically, and pan-arabism is a meme ideology, most of the larpers are pan-islamists

There is also the fact that there is no real "big enemy" in your vicinity.

I would impregnate that ayy in the bottom right

You mean US states having actual distinctive culture and identity? Yes, I can imagine the horror.

Pan-Arabism was invented by a Christian though and most of it's advocates were secularists.

That's why it's a meme ideology, even Saddam understood this and changed the Iraqi flag to get some support for Islamists.

he did that because kurdish and kuwaiti subhumans were burning the iraqi flag. It's not a meme ideology, the majority of arabs today support it.

>Arab tells you it's a meme ideology
>Some dude in a non arab country in the west
>Uhmmm Akchtually

>the majority of arabs today support it.
In what world do you live user, majority of "Arabs" outside of the peninsula are embracing meme heritage to distance themselves from Guflies, the only populism on the rise is Islamic pandering.

Moroccans are the least-Arab Arabs. Half of them claim to be Amazigh or some other subhuman shit because they are self-hating and have an internal identity crisis.

>kurdish and kuwaiti
oh so you're saying there's ethnic division in the region and there's actually no such thing as "panarabia" just like there was actually no such thing as "juugoslabbia" or "czheckohslovackiyya"?

Pan-Arabism is retarded. Arabs are too backwards to be ruled correctly by anything other than an islamic monarchy. Just give it all back to Turkey and put a Quraysh on the throne it's literally the only solution.

They do polls on this every couple of years. Support for secularism vs islamism is roughly 50/50 and swings this way or that way occasionally. But support for pan-Arabism or arab identity is always 70-80% or so on.

Even Morsi in second round elections against a literal M*barak shill only got like 52% of the vote. Islamists aren't that popular they are just loud and occasionally well-organised.

Kurds aren't Arab and nobody ever claimed they were. Kuwaitis are internal Jews but are still Arab.

Turks are subhuman and literally nobody likes them. Turks realised how much Europe hates them and is now trying to turn to the Arab world, but Arab countries like Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia etc hate Turks even more than Europeans do.

We dont want the fucking Ar*bs, give it to Israel

Berbers where their own thing tbf but years of invasion and Arabisation sort of turned them into neurotic NAfris with identity crisis as to whether they are arabs or berbers or carthaginians or christians or muslims

oh really because you seem to really want the kurds.

It's really not a Moroccan exclusive thing, Algerians and Tunisians do as well, Egyptians have their own larp, so do the Lebanese.
When I say islamists I don't mean literal "muslim brotherhood" tier subhumans, I mean populist """seculars""" riding on Islamic principles, kind of like Erdogan is doing, his model has inspired a lot of the party leaders elsewhere.

Berbers are a tiny minority that act like they are special and deserve special rights by constantly insulting the Arab majority. They are pretty much like niggers/spics in the west or Abos in australia.

No we don't

No what I meant was Berbers and Maghrebs.I tend to confuse and interchablngeably use the two

>When I say islamists I don't mean literal "muslim brotherhood" tier subhumans, I mean populist """seculars""" riding on Islamic principles, kind of like Erdogan is doing, his model has inspired a lot of the party leaders elsewhere.

so then you're a retard because then you can say even Sisi or Assad are Islamists because they incorporate islamic we-wuzing into their ideology despite being totally against religious fundamentalism.

Erdogan is just an ottomanist turkroach trying to use islamism to dupe Arabs, he's another beast entirely.

so let them go

>It's really not a Moroccan exclusive thing, Algerians and Tunisians do as well, Egyptians have their own larp, so do the Lebanese.

So do all Arabs. Even Jordanians and Palestinians. If you say that Moroccans or Algerians aren't Arab because a small segment of their population is retarded, you can say the same about literally any Arab country.

>Berbers are a tiny minority
You have no idea what you're talking about user.
>They are pretty much like niggers/spics in the west or Abos in australia.
A better comparison would be like you are the abos and they are the majority, but half of them happen to speak your abo language and follow your abo religion, however it doesn't stop that half from larping as an Australian.

they do it's called the catholic church

>first half of this thread is /lat/
>second half is /mena/

Let this be a lesson to all OPs about carefully wording their questions.

berbers aren't a minority, they are the dominant group in north africa. they are just larping as arabs because of a we wuz arabs meme that was implemented by governments not even a century ago.

isnt it better this way? you get both perspectives and outright first hand explanations from arab countries as to why the premises on the op arent even accurate
I'd take this thread over lowly_bait_thread#6379 any day

>with Algerian Arabic spoken by about 72% and Berber by 27.4%

>two opinions on Jow Forums represent the majority opinion

Next you'll be claiming all Turks are obsessed with black dicks and all americans are literal Jow Forums-tier

They're bringing Berber (Kabyle) back which is a good thing
Decades of Arabization have really messed them up

Are berbers using that weird script of theirs or arabic?

>muh language
I guess every monolingual American and Canadian is an anglo
Weird script, you can find it on every sign in the country

Kabyle? Afaik Arabic and Berber is the official language in Algeria

ayo wtf this was supposed to be a thread about latin america where the fuck did all this sandniggers came from

Arab identity is based on language and culture, not ethnicity. This is something that is universally agreed upon yet autistic westerners somehow don't understand.

>universally agreed upon
>source : my ass
Every Arabic country is culturally different from the other (different customs, foods, values, traditions...), the only shared and universal culture is the Islamic one.
And even in terms of language not every Arabic speaker can understand the other.

morrocans are just spaniards in denial, much like mexicans want to be but ach never achieve

If an Argentinian wants to live with Cubans, Mexicans, and Colombians he'll just move to Miami

pic related
these were all real

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expansionism edition (fantasy map)

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most panamanians would vote to rejoin america for the free gibs, while mexico would vote to give it's northern half to us and southern half independent. Central america would the become an uncontrollable warzone until everyone dies from HIV

Dont forget the genesis

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Again you show complete ignorance. The shared value is not Islamic because Egypt and the Mashreq have long histories of Christian Arabs which has affected their culture and population. The shared culture is a language one. Most Arabs are fluent in fus7a and can communicate with each other, and the culture is similar throughout. Many of the foods eaten in Iraq are the same as those in Lebanon or Jordan.

Peru is so big... they have everything..
>Pre-balkanization Colombia was basically the Virreynato of Nueva Granada

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weren't there internal subdivisions to ease administration?

Ah yes, the christian Arabs who hate being called Arabs and larp as Phoenicians and Greeks on twitter.
No one speaks in fus7a, it's only used as a formal language of bureaucracy, people have to make an actual effort to speak it correctly in a day to day conversation, not to mention how awkward it feels.
English is a far more united language than Arabic is.
>Many of the foods eaten in Iraq are the same as those in Lebanon or Jordan.
And many of them aren't, the further you go west the less culture you find shared, and cuisine as well for that matter.

yup, but the 5 division response to Lima as capital so basically were provinces. The Rio de la Plata was created basically to control pirates on that part. Sometimes I think if things were better if stay like that, is not like all the rest do a cool job except for chile

Linguistic nation states are a 1910s stupid idea that everybody thinks they want until they've got it and then they start killing eachother over differences imperceptible to outsiders.

Get the fuck out of my country

>Ah yes, the christian Arabs who hate being called Arabs and larp as Phoenicians and Greeks on twitter.

Those are a loud minority, just like berber larpers in your country. And fus7a isn't hard, maybe for moroccans, but for ordinary Arabs its very similar to their native dialect and easily understandable.

>And many of them aren't

name one

>Those are a loud minority
so are kosovans

kosovo only exists because of american jewish shenanigans. If Clinton and Albright hadn't intervened and bombed serbia, you never would have heard of it.

>kosovo only exists because of american jewish shenanigans.
and how exactly could arabistan ever come to exist without incalculable amounts of shenanigans?

>people wanted to unite together is shenanigans

why don't you go back to being 13 colonies then if unity is so bad? Or are you a hypocrite and are afraid that maybe if the Arab world united, you wouldn't be able to push around and invade them anymore?

right "people who want to unite" except for the ones who don't want to unite, they're just loud minorities why won't these croatians and bosniaks just fucking die and accept serbian hegemony over the great singular united nation of yugloslabria just gotta rape them for a hundred years till they're all serbs then we can have peace

>why don't you go back to being 13 colonies then if unity is so bad?
In case you weren't aware, we in fact DID fight a war over our internal divisions and it killed more of us than any other war in our history.

I would kill million if French e Fanta with my bare hands just to have a spit of land colonised by Italy.
Damn.
Imagine all the qts I could message.
All the places I could visit

nice argument retard. even the middle east doesn't consider the maghreb population as one of their own. only brainwashed nafris and uneducated westerners label us as arabs.

What's stopping you from doing that with non colonies save for the language barrier? A language barrier that clearly isn't a big deal
I haven't seen local girls going out with Spaniards anymore than with other random nationalities

every algerian i know is a hardcore arab nationalist.

I'm sure as an Australian you know a large generally representative sample of the Algerian population.

I know a few. Tunisians as well.

My autismo man. I see every Spanish speaker as Spanish subject. And I jelly.

I think of all the galleons of gold that went in Spain. And I jelly.

I see the names of cities. And I jelly.
I see the cultural link with Spain. And I jelly.

>mexicans wanting to be spaniards
never seen something like dis

that's because of fake "official" history taught in school. you have clearly no idea what you're talking about. you're also obviously a bluepilled sandnigger who lives in the west and thinks the arab world is united.

isn't like Spaniards feel proud of Latin America so don't need to feel jelly

>sandnigger

A yes, and what are you? A white aryan amazigh harki who hates his own people?

I think it’s perfectly fair for Copts to call themselves Egyptian instead of Arab.

You call yourself an Arab you'd be automatically be lumped in as Muslim
He is right you know
There was a Tunisian poster who mentioned how the Maghreb slowly aligned itself with Arabs and accelerated Arabisation due to the prestige it carried during the heyday of the Arab Union before it all came down

don't bother, he doesn't know shit.

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So all the milliions of Christian Arabs? What are they? I'm a Christian Arab and I proudly call myself Arab (and australian) instead of anything else.

Language and culture is more important for identity than genetics and haplogroups.

that's right. language and culture are important, which is why i want you and every other retard to stop labeling me as arab. my culture and language are different from yours. not only that but we are also genetically different. don't get wrong idea sandnigger, i'm not one of those kabyles who larp as a vandal. we are nowhere close to nordcucks. however, we are different from the middle east and you have to deal with it, imbecile.

based

Don't tell that to me brother
Tell that to the arabs who think being Muslim is important to be considered an Arab

>I think of all the galleons of gold that went in Spain. And I jelly.
Because that worked out well, right?

>Tell that to the arabs who think being Muslim is important to be considered an Arab

nobody thinks that you retard.

worked 300 years :^)