Is evolution theory and its evidences thaught in muslim countries?
Is evolution theory and its evidences thaught in muslim countries?
Yes, here anyways
Teachers who teach us evolution don't even believe in it
that's why you sandniggers will always be dumb assholes
Ok Mehmet
We were being told about evolution in biology class and my muslim friend next to me said "haha it's so stupid you think we came from a fish?"
Show the intelligence of the average religious person
yes, actually. Christianity is unique in clinging to creationism
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I'm 24 tho
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Yes. We are also taught a somewhat reconciliation between creationism and evolution. Though thats in religion class. In science class we learn vanilla evolution. Also evolution is a theory of Muslim scientists.
>evolution is a theory of Muslim scientists.
lmao
True christianity accepts evolution.
>"hurr durr you so stupid why you believe in God without questioning?"
>"What? Of course I'm an atheist, richard dawkins told me, every living organism was created just by accident and RNA just popped out of primordian soup and the universe evolved from nothing. No I can't explain it, I just accept it unquestionably because I'm not a moron like religitards lmao"
>The Islamic scholars, as part of their investigations into biology, resurrected the idea of evolutionary theory first hinted at by Anaximander. The most important contributor to Islamic evolutionary theory, and a leading scholar of zoology, was Al-Jāḥiẓ, (781 CE - 868/869CE). He wrote a detailed treatise, Kitab al-Hayawan (Book of Animals), which became one of the most important works in the history of biology.
>This book contained detailed descriptions of over 350 species of animal, interwoven with poetic descriptions and well-known proverbs. Al-Jahiz was the first scholar to realize the importance of the environment upon animals, and he understood that the environment would determine the likelihood of an animal surviving. As a result, he proposed a theory called the ‘Struggle for Existence,’ the forerunner of Darwin’s ‘Survival of the Fittest.
>Brilliantly, he stated that animals struggled for existence, striving to find food, escape predation and survive long enough to breed. Thus, the most successful individuals would pass on their traits to their offspring, ensuring that they, in turn, would be more likely to survive everything that the environment could throw at them.
>Al Jahiz also related his ideas about food chains, noting that animals would seek food, but they would, in turn, be eaten by predators; this trait continued up the chain. The scholar also understood that chains were not one-dimensional and that animals had more than one food source. As each animal hunted, it was also hunted in turn, as part of the cycle of life.
>Crucially, Al Jahiz even applied his theories of inherited characteristics to humans, noting that humans also adapted to their environments, pointing out that darker skinned people generally lived in hotter and drier climates. In a fine example of how Islamic scholars gathered information and improved upon it, he read the work of Aristotle and then added his own ideas and theories.
>everything came from le muslim golden age
KILL YOURSELF
that's not evolution.
Muslim man smart!!!1!!1!
lmao what a retard
>muslim golden age
it's Arab golden age you faggot
>Natural selection based on environmental factors isn't evolution
It's a good start honestly but it's a long shot from the common ancestor theory, which is what evolution refers to in this kind of debates.
might be vague and unrefined and not actually going into depth on the mechanisms behind it like later biologists did, but it's a pretty solid starting point
which makes it twice as sad that arabs didn't manage to progress fyrther with this in over a millenia
don't do religious scripture kids, it'll fuck your secular research
Europe did just fine with it
Depends on the teacher here. My 7th or 8th grade biology teacher didn't believe in evolution so he skipped it entirely.
Yes, here anyways
They're too dumb for that
The thing is Arabs didn't really care about having fundamentalist approaches to religious scripture except for the first half century, and the Ummayad and Abbasid Caliphates were relatively open and liberal monarchies with plenty of free-thought, and even atheists publicly publishing poems. Then the turkic, persian and mongol savages rode in from the east and were like "no you are doing your own religion wrong" and massacred everyone and kept the region trapped in the stone age until the 20th century when secular governments began emerging, but then America had to step in and take everything back again.
yes but the teachers don't believe in it. they teach it because the curriculum told them to do so.
He did a good job in promoting the idea since nobody knows about it lmao
Evolution isn't real
But it is true. People knew about mutations since the ancient times. That is why many understood how evolution can make species evolve. Although it is only in modern times that we were able to gather species from every corner in the world to study (Victorian era).
In middle ages islam, it was agreed the humans come from the world of monkeys.
>Muslims believed that humans are the most evolved form of animals, in that they have the ability to reason. The Muqaddimah also states in Chapter 6:
>We explained there that the whole of existence in (all) its simple and composite worlds is arranged in a natural order of ascent and descent, so that everything constitutes an uninterrupted continuum. The essences at the end of each particular stage of the worlds are by nature prepared to be transformed into the essence adjacent to them, either above or below them. This is the case with the simple material elements; it is the case with palms and vines, (which constitute) the last stage of plants, in their relation to snails and shellfish, (which constitute) the (lowest) stage of animals. It is also the case with monkeys, creatures combining in themselves cleverness and perception, in their relation to man, the being who has the ability to think and to reflect. The preparedness (for transformation) that exists on either side, at each stage of the worlds, is meant when (we speak about) their connection.
>Plants do not have the same fineness and power that animals have. Therefore, the sages rarely turned to them. Animals are the last and final stage of the three permutations. Minerals turn into plants, and plants into animals, but animals cannot turn into anything finer than themselves.
t. Ibn Khaldun
I was told the Sunnis also made it so religious scripts took precedent over translations or research of secular phenomenon
Frankly I can't blame civilizations for not going overdrive on research since the scientific method wasn't yet widespread and understood, but it's sad to see the golden era not laating quire enough or carrying over until centuries later
wats next? pitagoras was a muslim too? kek
At that time there wasn't much of a sunni/shia thing. Heck, Egypt was shi'ite and Iran was sunni. The divide is mostly political since they can't agree over whether Omar or Ali should have succeeded Muhammad, despite both being dead over hundreds of years. There are schools of thoughts within each and there can be as much difference in interpretation between two sunnis or two shi'ites as between sunnis and shi'ites. But you are correct in that in general, sunnis give more attention to religious texts such as the hadiths.
In either case, it was not until the mass invasions by turkic and mongol groups and the rise of the ottoman and persian empires that the entire region began to delve backwards.
Babylonians discovered it before the greeks did.
cringe. Stop simplifying all of it like that you autistic nationalist. It wasn't just liberal monarchies or whatever autism you're trying to pull off.
In early islamic history there used to be schools of thought that were trying to apply their logic on as to how approach islam. For the first few centuries the debate was dominated between the ashari school and the mu'tazila school. The salfists were also there but not as significant. However by the time of the mongol invasion the mu'tazilaites became a dying breed that eventually went extinct. And the debate became dominated between asharis and salafists. Of course by the 2nd half of the 20th century the salafists started dominating because that's what the saudis were and they had all the oil money to promote that.
simple as
>Babylonians discovered it before the greeks did
Nah it was Chinks and Indians and Mesopotamians
Mesopotamians outdate Chinks by thousands of years and don't pretend like Bharat has any connection to Indus-valley civilisation which is mostly centred in pakistan today.
Muslims are crazy, they claim everyone is born a muslim and even people way before the creation of islam were muslims. They are beyond retarded
and you think babylonians are not mesopotamian?
Thats why they are hated and despised pretty much everywhere
Can be anyone since Mesopotamia was a region in Iraq
Unless you really want to push the narrative that "only x people did this" then by all means why not it's not like you've done this before
Salafists and other extremist figures like Ibn Tamiya were fringe figures that nobody took seriously. (That's even if salafists existed back then, I don't think they did). Open thought and criticism and questioning was far more tolerated in the Arab world then, and the Arab world maintained parity scientifically with Europe until the arrival of the mongol and turkic hordes and various Persian dynasties which completely ruined the region. Persian dynasties such as the Safavids were far more fundamentalist than anything else at the time and were similar to ISIS or Saudis today or even the Islamic Republic of Iran.
Mesopotamians is a catch all-term for the civilisations of Ancient Iraq such as Babylonians, Chaldeans, Akkadians, Assyrians, Sumerians. etc. Babylonian is another catch all-term for the ones that existed in the southern part and specifically two different dynasties/empires. (Hamurabbi and Nebuchadnessar)
>hated and despised everywhere
That sounds like jews
Just saying that Babylonians understood what the formula is but their application of it is little in a mathematical framework compared to Chinese and Indians and Mesopotamians who discovered the formula independently and in some cases gave proof for special cases
Babylonians are mesopotamians you fucktard stop acting like you know what you are talking about. And they were building huge cities at the time and drilling water from deep underground and building canals and river ducts, what do you mean they didn't "apply it"? Stop copy pasting form wikipedia you fucktard you don't know anything.
Mesopotamians can be anyone too user
Not only Babylonians
No people hate muslims way more than jews nowadays
Mesopotamians equals Babylonians and Assyrians.
Evolution theory is retarded gibberish and darwin was a faggot sub-human, we didn't evolve from fish then apes you cucks.
Exactly
Sumerians/Akkadians/Babylonians/Assyrians lived in this region known as Mesopotamia
We tend to forget that sometimes that I might as well change the wikipedia article for Mesopotamia to "Greater Babylon" or just "Iraq ver 1"
What I'm trying to say is that yes the Babylonians had an understanding of the theorem but it wasn't applied in a a way they can teach it to anyone aka a "mathematical framework".
You being butthurt and angry about this entire topic just shows how much you've drank from the LARPjug that you're willing to discredit the rest of those who lived in Mesopotamia
>but it wasn't applied in a a way they can teach it to anyone aka a "mathematical framework".
explain how building immense cities, drilling underground water, and canals and irrigation isn't applying mathematical framework?
You're confusing both together
Mathematical framework in a sense where you can teach it to anyone and give them a proper understanding of the topic rather than "memorise x and y and you're set"
Proof that they didn't do what you say? Otherwise it wouldn't have been saved in records and applied for generations.
Yes, the cornerstone to evolutionary theory was laid by Al-Jahiz, an Arab writer of partial African descent whose work was fairly familiar to Darwin
If you're talking about the Plimpton 322 it should be known that the author who wrote it was actually a scribe not an amateur or a professional mathematics proffessor who wrote it just to give examples of school problems to children.
Hell some even argue that the stone inscriptions itself where algebra problems rather than geometric problems
Schools of thought exists as to what the nature of the tablet is and how it contributes to the theorem as a whole and there is no clear consensus as to what it is
t muhammad
So if amerimutts and arabs agree on so many things, why do they hate each others guts?
chill out mate no one owns a fedora in 2019
WE
t. butthurt monkey
Isn't Mauritania majority niggers?
#FUCKISLAM #MAGA #ISTANDWITHISRAEL
He came up with that theory the 9th century, before all the libraries of the Muslim world were burnt and before their educated members were executed