Europeans still move to America for a better life or this is not a thing anymore?

Usually only highly educated ones or eastern europeans.
USA is fucking hard to get into, doesn't matter if your european or not.
Lots people in our oil industry get moved over because they are good at what they do, and the pay is way better in the states. Yes even better than Norwegian pay, the US has a way higher ceiling for salary than any country in europe.

Europe is "safe" and "wealthy" and there's no need to migrate if you live here, at least Western Europe, if all gets worse I think that the only countries that Europeans would consider to migrate are Caneda, Straya and New Zeland, maybe Japan and South Korea too because anime

They do still move here. But it’s a different kind of person. Back in the late 1800s and early 1900s it was mostly poors. Now, the euros who come here usually have some sort of skill. They move here because our job market is much better. Either that or through marriage.

why would i move to somewhere with a lower quality of life?

it’s much easier to get a job here depending on what field you’re going into. I know many euros who moved here because of jobs

Lol, Quebec is full of illegal French people (mainly from Southern France.) And New Hampshire/Maine is full of French Canadians that still speak French.

Some people move there to work in the tech sector mainly, because the US has the highest wages. I think the era of looking up to the US a lot has gone, the 90s was probably the highlight of yankbooism in this country

Tbh I would move to a state with legalised weed if I had a business. Building saunas is something I've been daydreaming about

>wealthy
Yeah no, anything in the STEM fields do way better in the US for salary.

>lower QOL
You must be working in a supermarket then? Cause menial jobs are the only place european QOL is better than the US. Anyone with higher education has better QOL in the US.

You know a lot of the French speakers in Maine are Americans right?

*Australia and Canada

You could market it like a some kind of cleansing power, as the new way to get rid of "toxins". Women eat that shit up

Only small numbers of particularly rich or skilled ones and they all settle in the same cities. The days of poor Europeans going to the USA are long gone they use Mexicans for that purpose.

especially if he marketed it as some sort of local custom from Finland. The retarded liberal thots would think it’s so cultured of them to experience it

Stop shitting up the world with your citizens.

she's a white nationalist so good luck

You know what’s interesting? I’m in the aviation industry and there are so many Brits here working for american companies. I hear British accents everywhere, male and female.

>Authentic Finnish sauna experience
Also some snippets of history like how we used to give birth in saunas, the löyly spirit and shit like that.

And here's the promotional poster, very progressive. I'm sure you could get VC funding for this.

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I know but hes saying French never immigrated

I don’t think you’d want to host live births... that would be gross

>USA is fucking hard to get into
Tell that to the millions of illegals

He means legally

You're breaking my heart.

Depends on where in Europe you are from and what industry you work in, but in general I doubt it. If you're from western europe then no, maybe some people move from countries like Romania and such I dunno.

Nah I wouldn't do that

D'accord. I was just joshin

Would make sense, aviation is probably one of the only manufacturing industries that we still compete in as a country, I should think there would be a lot of specialists in it

Yes lad I know the wages are better there I mean mass migrations like in the XIX and early XX

Its hard as fuck, I had a lot of Germans and Swedes in my company that had to go back because their visa was going to expire. Meanwhile illegal Mexicans are given amnesty/sanctuaty cities. Just like how its very difficult for an American to move to Europe but refugees come in insane numbers.

My brother emigrated there. He was always the international type and I think he has a better quality of life there, with the constant sun and the fact that it's easier to get a house and car than in Ireland. Personally, I'm happy here though and would never emigrate

Why would vietcong fund nigger saunas

It's venture capital but kek'd

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I would probably have a better income in the US, but not a better life.

the only ones I know are tech workers or builders.
the builders only go because they're fucking dumb and believe le America is great meme

the only europeans immigrants that I've met were already wealthy in Europe. They just came to the US for slightly lower taxes. Slightly better life, I guess, but not a huge improvement like many immigrants to the US from poor countries experience.

no, it's pointless for a white yuropean man to move to modern day america, they will only be discriminated and persecuted by the zionist establishment there.

on top of it US is corrupt as fuck and regressed into developing status.

may as well move to fucking russia if you want "modern" american life.

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I'm talking legally, the democrat way of illegal immigration is just so they can selectively enforce the laws with ICE, only removing those that oppose them. Though most will praise them like gods for allowing sanctuary cities to exist

There are a lot of middle aged German women in my army town that married American soliders, and a lot of my friends are half German and have German citizenship

I sometimes consider a move to get lower taxes, but that would be to places like Switzerland, UAE, Singapore or Hong Kong.

my company wants me to go there to train new hires but they would only sponsor a h1b visa for 3 years so I declined. I wouldnt mind living there but im not super keen on it either

>Indonesian intellectuals

Too bad there hasn't been a EUUS partnership that makes immigrating easier. And since the EU states can't fucking make our own deals we're stuck.

Could be a good experience if it's only for 3 years and paid for by your company desu

In which state would that be?

it's okay frogboy, you can keep america, it's your problem now. enjoy.

we want none of it

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You all have so many things over here. Where I live, you have a military base here. I see a Luftwaffe A400 land almost daily at the international airport here, and whenever I’ve been to the airport going on trips I’ve seen German soldiers in uniforms transferring through the airport

I would earn more and be more likely to have a job
quality of life seems to be worse however

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Switzerland is insanely expensive, they have the most renters in the world because property prices are insane. Theres also have huge import fees so you cant buy stuff online. And companies jack up prices in Switzerland because they know people will pay it, so the same sweater in Germany thats 20 euros would be 60 francs in Switzerland. A bottle of water is 10 francs. And Swiss work long hours.

>EUUS partnership that makes immigrating easier
I think the EU would be the clear loser in this "partnership": we would lose too many highly skilled people, especially considering how we (highly skilled people) almost all speak English, while US people don't speak EU languages in general.

Those were mostly first-wave immigrants.
The big waves of immigration happened later.

It’s good that we don’t do this. The fact we don’t do this keeps our wages high.

I would like to marry her please thank you

Have this qt

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Really depends where you are. My Swedish co workers really loved New Hampshire (its like 85% forested and many lakes), they said it looks like Sweden. The state is very homogenous and the murder rate is only 1, lower than Finland.

Boston Massachusetts. It would just be the job im doing right now but in a different country, I would rather work my way up here desu

yeah lol I saw a video recently of the Luftwaffe training in Las Vegas, surprised me quite a bit.
youtube.com/watch?v=Bqhbt2zFdFk not sure if its region locked

Then the EU companies would learn to fucking pay highly talented/educated people better. Some "highly paid" jobs here offer 3-5x if you managed to move over to the us

Why are there so many illegal French in Montreal and Quebec city?

mine

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>property prices are insane
They also have huge incomes, so it's still okay.

>huge import fees so you cant buy stuff online
>companies jack up prices in Switzerland because they know people will pay it
Every Swiss I know goes to France to buy everything, and some of them also have a friend on the French side on the border to take delivery of their Amazon parcels.

>Swiss work long hours.
I work every day from 8 AM to 9 PM (private practice) and barely have enough to survive because of high taxes lol

You will always find some people from any location moving to the US because the population pool is so large, but today, there's no reason for people to leave their countries en masse (yet), at least not in western Europe. The USA aren't significantly richer than the Netherlands or Germany and the individual freedoms are not better there either. Even if you're rightwing and hate the EU for their immigration policy, moving to the US would be the dumbest thing you can do. Eastern Europeans have more reasons to leave their countries, but they obviously prefer western Europe.

I got a job offer in Leipzig as a programmer but it was only 30k euros a year and the tax rate is 55%. Here I'm earning 100k a year with a 32% tax bracket. And my friend was looking for jobs in Ireland and when he said his expected salary they laughed at his face.

yea I suppose states vary a lot in these respects

damn that's a fair bit more money

Boston looks cool.

Also, are you sure that it will be well perceived by your company if you refuse?

yes but other than big cities life is cheap here

Why do people still believe these fucking meme comparisons? They are averages across the whole country, so yeah if you're just the most average guy your country vs the most average guy in the us you might be worse off. You never get comparisons based on education level, field of work, years of experience etc, that is where the real comparisons would lie.

Case example: software engineers EU vs US. Way higher salary and lower taxes.
I have friends in the US earning 90K without a degree, they just learned programming on their own. You will never fucking get anywhere without a degree here in the EU, and if you do the salaries will be nothing.

this was last year, boss was kinda pissed but its over with now

>hate the EU for their immigration policy
It's the immigrants that are hated, not the immigration policy, and beaners look better than the worshippers of Muhammad.

The average home is in the millions, and usually Swiss work 10 hours~ a day. My friend in Lausanne said his family bought their medium sized house for 800k francs in the 90s and now it's worth 3 million francs. He also told me many Swiss started to rent on the French border and fucked up the prices of rent. And you must have health insurance in Switzerland and a decent plan is like 300 francs a month. Switzerland was the best country I visited though, insanely clean and beautiful, but I was broke after I traveled there.

ofc it is generic, I know that a doctor charges far more in the US than in Western Europe and the STEM works are paid like shit here and that's why the people that study that move to the Germany or UK, maybe even France

I forgot to say this is also in part due to our laws protecting the worker. If you get hired in the EU it's way harder to fire you than it is in the us. If someone takes a chance on you in the US and you don't perform they kick you out right away, and that's why they can afford to take more risks while hiring people.

USA is a great country to live in if you are rich or an artist of any kind. For the average european? Not so much. So the appeal to move is rather low.

my godfather moved to canada as chemical engineer, obtained phd there, ceo now in toronto, it was his dream to follow his father

rest of the ppl i know moved to california, cleaners, designers, that kinda ppl
some illegaly some legally

america is for ppl with big dreams and ambition, ppl wanting comfy life stay out from there

The Luftwaffe have a base in Texas too. Also, Lufthansa has a massive training center in Arizona.

But I’m not talking about either of those places. I live near Washington DC, and I see a German A400 and uniformed soldiers all the time

What you're saying is it would be nice if further breakdowns were possible, which I agree with. But this in itself is perfectly valid, it tells you about the average persons life compared to life in another country.

Its the same here with a lot of government jobs like the post office and United Nations etc. People will jack off at work in the post office, always show up late, some times not show up for a week, and they cant get fired.

>USA is a great country to live in if you are rich

that pretty much applies to almost any country, but with the fact that there's literally racial war going on in the US it's more dangerous to live there than a civilized country.

If I were rich, the US would be on the bottom of my potential immigration list.

lufthansa-aviation-training-usa.com/#gref

>hapa white nationalist
Eh

Again depends where you live. Northern New England is like 98% white and really safe.

its horrible to be rich and live in germany. taxes will fuck you and the general population doesnt like you plus being rich doesnt get you the same benefits as it does in other countries. same goes for france and uk from what I know. and lets be honest. If you push around millions every day would you rather live in Poland or some sunny american state where money gets you everything?

I live in Virginia and haven’t ever felt unsafe

Cost of living is high but it's still manageable. The problem is more about how xenophobic the Swiss are, and how boring the country is.

All the French expats in Switzerland I know (highly educated) make a lot of money, but they have no social life and want to leave Switzerland in the future.

Yes, but the US is way more diverse. You can't just blanket the whole country towards singular smaller countries. Massachusetts for example has a higher HDI than Norway, and it's comparable in population.

Here in Massachusetts you get free healthcare/Medicaid if you earn under $30k a year and $200 a month in food stamps. If you earn more than that, you are usually on your employers health plan. If your employer doesnt have one you can be on Medicaid.

They immigrated to Québec, Acadie, and Canada, not America.

what he means its easier to get rich starting from 0
old money in europe is scary rich, just obviously more difficult to get there

well, in my case, I aint going to the US without my precious fully automatic AK 47 and my frag grenades, and since it's illegal to own those things there, looks like I'll head to russia instead, theyve more freedom.

>become rich in 1400s
>generational wealth for 700 years
That's old money in europe.

bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-08-23/how-to-stay-rich-in-europe-inherit-money-for-700-years

Because Canada has an enviable quality of life, this thread is about moving to America.

BASED. Then I'll just watch her fucking a white Chad